xenth 0 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Hello, Just trying Media Browser out for the first time. I'm noticing that prefixes in film titles for example 'the' or 'a' are ignored in the sorting order. I find this rather confusing and it's not something that I'm accustomed to and I would like to change this behaviour. I've tried finding information on this forum and appearantly I can use the metadata manager using "sort name" for this but I have no idea what I should type in this field. Any help? TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardyname 195 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 For example : The Brussels Business Is by default listed under B for Brussels If you want it listed under "T" for The, in the box type: The Brussels Business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenth 0 Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Thank you, I've set sort name under Metadata manager under Films as The Brussels Business but it's had no effect whatsoever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardyname 195 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Make sure to hit that save button!, also Brussels business was just an example So you have to changes yours based on what movie you are referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBers 6805 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 You may also have to do a library scan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenth 0 Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 Make sure to hit that save button!, also Brussels business was just an example So you have to changes yours based on what movie you are referring to. What you're saying is I have to change the metadata for every individual film that has a prefix somehow? That seems horribly inefficient, is there no way to simply change the default behaviour of Mediabrowser? You may also have to do a library scan. I have just done this, it hasn't changed anything unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBers 6805 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 @@xenth - can you post a screenshot or 2 of what you've attempted to do please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenth 0 Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 @@xenth - can you post a screenshot or 2 of what you've attempted to do please. Certainly. This is the problem I'm experiencing Here is how I have it configured now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBers 6805 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) You've entered the name of a movie in the sort field for the top level library (Films). You'll need to edit every movie with "the", "a" and "an" etc, and enter the name you wanted it sorted on into the sort name field. Edited August 15, 2014 by CBers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenth 0 Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 Awesome, I get how that works now So this is a labour intensive process that I'd have to do manually which I'm not too pleased about. Is there any way that Mediabrowser can automatically duplicate the contents of the sort name field with the name field for every film? Thanks for the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBers 6805 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 It should do that now. How are your movie files named? Do they have "the" at the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenth 0 Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 It's not doing that now, presumably because my movies are sorted with the prefix (the, an, a) at the front. I would like to keep it like that, is that possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBers 6805 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 OK, I'm a bit confused now. Can you list your movies in the order you want to see them please, plus a screenshot of the edit page of one the movies with a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenth 0 Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) Hahah, yeah no worries. Here's what I've done for one of them: It now sorts itself under the T's, rather than the G's, which is how I want it to be sorted. Really what would solve my issues alltogether would be for the <sort name> field to be an automatic duplicate of the <name> field. Edited August 15, 2014 by xenth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBers 6805 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Yes, that is what you'll have to do. By default, MB3 will sort on the name of the movie, but it does ignore certain words as you've found. If you wish to sort on the ignored words, then you will need to amend each movie. I for one prefer what MB3 does, so that with my TV shows for example, the word "the" is totally ignored - I wish you could do the same in Windows Explorer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenth 0 Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 That's very unfortunate, thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardyname 195 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 That's very unfortunate, thanks for the help. You could also make a feature request and ask for this to be a configurable option But as CBers explaind this (for now) is manual labor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathsquirrel 741 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 You can make a feature request but I'd expect the overwhelming majority of people expect to see 'The Butterfly Effect' under B and not T. That's why the current behavior is a default. They can make it configurable of course but as a general rule I know the dev team avoids adding options that very few people would use as it makes the UI more confusing.You'll almost certainly have to stick to doing this in the metadata editor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpi 73 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Hi, you should have a look in the "system.xml" file that is located in the config dir of MediaBrowser-Server (normally C:\users\[your user]\AppData\Roaming\MediaBrowser-Server). There you will find a section "SortRemoveWords". There you can add or remove words (like "the") that should be ignored for sorting. This should do what you want. You might need to restart the server and rescan the library. Ciao, Alfred 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenth 0 Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 Hi, you should have a look in the "system.xml" file that is located in the config dir of MediaBrowser-Server (normally C:\users\[your user]\AppData\Roaming\MediaBrowser-Server). There you will find a section "SortRemoveWords". There you can add or remove words (like "the") that should be ignored for sorting. This should do what you want. You might need to restart the server and rescan the library. Ciao, Alfred Fantastico Alfred! This did the trick beautifully!! Thanks! My system.xml now: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzu85 21 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Hi, you should have a look in the "system.xml" file that is located in the config dir of MediaBrowser-Server (normally C:\users\[your user]\AppData\Roaming\MediaBrowser-Server). There you will find a section "SortRemoveWords". There you can add or remove words (like "the") that should be ignored for sorting. This should do what you want. You might need to restart the server and rescan the library. Ciao, Alfred an update.. the modify the xml works only if you refresh the metadata of the, in my case, show library.. with just a scan nothing changes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37273 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzu85 21 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Correct. question 1: why don't you make this section of xml configurable thru the web interface? question 2: in a future server update there's the risk that the modified xml is reverted to the original one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37273 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 We just haven't gotten to it at this point. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyxoxo 4 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 You can make a feature request but I'd expect the overwhelming majority of people expect to see 'The Butterfly Effect' under B and not T. That's why the current behavior is a default. Disagree with that, whole heartedly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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