daldana 47 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Does CC work in a Direct Stream environment? The reason I ask is that I also was getting Live TV transcoded in my LAN after upgrading to 4.5.3. After messing around I found that if I unchecked "Allow video playback that requires transcoding" in my User settings, it changed the delivery method to Direct Streaming instead of Transcoding. I have no idea if this helps at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 739 Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 Yes. CC's work using direct stream but one then loses time shifting in LiveTV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14959 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Sammy said: Yes. CC's work using direct stream but one then loses time shifting in LiveTV. Actually, if you did what dldna suggested, it would probably work but that obviously would break a lot of other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daldana 47 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Sammy, I'm still able to pause and skip back using direct stream. Ebr, I'm not sure what you mean by "break a lot of other things". I can watch Live TV, Recorded TV, and my Movies without any problems so far, so would you expand on what might be broken or what I might not be able to do? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 739 Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, daldana said: Sammy, I'm still able to pause and skip back using direct stream. Ebr, I'm not sure what you mean by "break a lot of other things". I can watch Live TV, Recorded TV, and my Movies without any problems so far, so would you expand on what might be broken or what I might not be able to do? Thanks. Let's say you have an HEVC file or something and your client doesn't support it you'd need to transcode on the server to watch it on the client. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8356 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, daldana said: Sammy, I'm still able to pause and skip back using direct stream. Ebr, I'm not sure what you mean by "break a lot of other things". I can watch Live TV, Recorded TV, and my Movies without any problems so far, so would you expand on what might be broken or what I might not be able to do? Thanks. There are situations where disabling these option will prevent the media from being playable. If disabling these option and item is still playable would suggest to me a bitrate issue with Auto and increasing client quality option would provide the same results with the settings still enabled (except this Live TV change.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daldana 47 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Yeah, I forgot to mention that I only use that User profile locally and all my movies are mkvs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8356 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, daldana said: Yeah, I forgot to mention that I only use that User profile locally and all my movies are mkvs. But mkv not enough information as there could be any codec in a mkv container and depending on the codec and bitrate will determine playback. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daldana 47 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Regular DVD rips or mp4 conversions is mostly what I have, but I do have a couple of Blu-ray rips so I'll try those later to see if they play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 739 Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 Do you mean local as in intranet or locals directly on the PC that is displaying the content? Some of us, like me, have 4k HEVC rips that only play on a few of our clients. The rest of our clients require a transcoded stream (although it is washed out, @Luke, waiting for a fix). Not allowing transcoding on the server will break things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8356 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, daldana said: Regular DVD rips or mp4 conversions is mostly what I have, but I do have a couple of Blu-ray rips so I'll try those later to see if they play. You have to worry more about codecs not containers. As mentioned above say HEVC will not play at all in most browsers with the options disabled as it will require transcoding. So there are many variables that are client/app specific here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daldana 47 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 LAN. Using a PC as a server with three TVs (one Shield, two Fire TV sticks) connected to it. The Shield is our primary TV. Didn't mean to hijack thread, just was trying to give a workaround for Live TV with CC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daldana 47 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 One last thing, all of my TVs use Emby Theater, not browsers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 739 Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, daldana said: LAN. Using a PC as a server with three TVs (one Shield, two Fire TV sticks) connected to it. The Shield is our primary TV. Didn't mean to hijack thread, just was trying to give a workaround for Live TV with CC. You may have an issue with the FireTV Sticks if you ever push 4k HEVC at them.. Don't worry about the hijack, your suggestion works in a lot of cases.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 739 Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) Can I prevent the server from automatically updating? Right now I have it on v.4.5.2.0 but it is begging to to go to v.4.5.3.0. I'm thinking I need to delete this folder: Then turn off updates here: Edited December 14, 2020 by Sammy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 739 Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 Well that did it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 739 Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 So apparently this remains un-fixed in 4.5.4.0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 739 Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 @Luke Any update on the fix for this? I'm still on 4.5.2.0 until it is fixed and I cannot run the beta server either which will be put out to test detecting episode intros but still brakes CC's in LiveTV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 739 Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 On 12/7/2020 at 6:29 AM, ebr said: That won't make a difference. This is a change by the server. Anything fixed server side yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 739 Posted January 25, 2021 Author Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) @ebr @Luke Any updates on fixing this? Seems I am hopelessly stuck on 4.5.2.0 with 4.6.x.x on the horizon and I don't see any mention of fixing this in the beta release notes posted by @PenkethBoy. Edited January 25, 2021 by Sammy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkss12 296 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) Closed captions AND FF/RW and pause rare working now for me, using the latest beta. Edit: I guess I need to qualify my statement above, this appears to only work if the transcoding setting is disabled......... Strange. I am running 3 different Windows based servers, and the servers that have transcoding enabled, the CC and pause/play do not work... Edited January 25, 2021 by clarkss12 correcting statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 739 Posted January 25, 2021 Author Share Posted January 25, 2021 22 minutes ago, clarkss12 said: Closed captions AND FF/RW and pause rare working now for me, using the latest beta. Edit: I guess I need to qualify my statement above, this appears to only work if the transcoding setting is disabled......... Strange. I am running 3 different Windows based servers, and the servers that have transcoding enabled, the CC and pause/play do not work... Can you clarify? The latest 4.6.x.x beta has CC and time shift working for LiveTV but only if Transcoding is disabled? Where are you disabling it? I don't really like to run the beta server for everyday use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14959 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Sammy said: The latest 4.6.x.x beta has CC and time shift working for LiveTV but only if Transcoding is disabled? Where are you disabling it? I don't really like to run the beta server for everyday use. I don't think there is anything in the current beta affecting this so the same behavior (when disabling transcoding) would be achievable in 4.5.4 - with the obvious drawbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4331 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) What he's saying is 4.5.2.0 allows playback without transcoding but newer version force transcoding of Interlaced content. The clients can deinterlace and do not need it transcoded which robs the stream of CC and degrades picture quality. Edited January 25, 2021 by cayars 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkss12 296 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 While testing my newest miniPC based on a Ryzen CPU, the GPU was not powerful enough to transcode. But, by disabling the transcoding, the CPU was able to transcode without issues. I was shocked to see closed captions AND pause/play working, never suspected that the disabling the transcoding was the cause of this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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