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On 11/25/2020 at 5:32 AM, cayars said:

I'm not sure why anyone would think Emby can "magically" give you more streams then you pay your provider for.  Emby can share the stream however so you could have 4 or 5 people watching the same stream but it's still just one stream from the provider.  When you go with a provider that gives you 3 to 5 streams things open up tremendously as you can then record and watch things simultaneously.

Would you mind elaborating on that stream sharing Emby does?
Knowledgebase doesn't have information about that, at least I didn't see any.

I will be using Emby for LiveTV as well and would be interested knowing more details about it.
Thank you!

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cayars

Let's say you have a 3 tuner setup be it hardware or m3u.  That will allow any 3 channels to be viewed at one time (3 streams).

You have this "tuner" setup in Emby.

Person 1 is watching CNN (1 stream in use).
Person 2 is watching Fox News (2 streams in use).
DVR kicks in and records show on CNN (still 2 streams in use).
Person 3 is watching Fox News (still 2 streams in use).
DVR starts recording a show in CBS (now 3 streams in use).
Person 4 starts watching CNN (still 3 streams in use)
Person 5 starts watching CBS (still 3 streams in use)

Person 6 TRYs to watch ABC (fails as no more streams are available). This person can however tune to CNN, Fox News or CBS and share the stream Emby already has open.

Did that help?

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21 minutes ago, cayars said:

Did that help?

Yes, it did.

One follow-up question though:

Does it matter the way the stream gets played (direct play vs. direct stream vs. transcoding)?

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Normally it wouldn't matter at all.

For example from the previous example Person 1 could be playing back CNN that's transcoded down and streamed to a cell phone.  Person 4 could be your cousin at his house playing on his Roku and the stream is Remuxed while Emby Server itself is saving the CNN recording as a TS file.

Think of this way:

Stream -> Emby Server -> Client

The first side is Emby consuming the stream in the manner it can get it (hardware tuner, m3u, etc).
It then transforms the file if needed for Emby use if needed.  By this I mean Emby could be piecing back segments from an HLS stream if that's what it's getting.

Then Emby serves this reconditioned stream out to clients in the format they need.  In this case you can think of it like 10 people all watching Top Gun (1986) from your Emby Server and that Emby will direct play, remux or transcode (SW or HW) as needed.

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On 11/26/2020 at 1:47 PM, neik said:

Yes, it did.

One follow-up question though:

Does it matter the way the stream gets played (direct play vs. direct stream vs. transcoding)?

Thank you!

Only in that depending on how it is being played depends on how much processing power is needed on the server. For example, direct play requires virtually no processing power on the emby server to get it to the end device. Where transcoding will take significantly more, especially if the server does all cpu ( not gpu ) based transcoding.

On my setup I have a mobo/cpu that cost 100$ and supports gpu transcoding, I can only run about 4 transcode streams at one time before things get choppy. No idea how many direct streams though.

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