messoud 0 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) Hi, I'm using Emby 4.4.3.0 and it has a problem with identifying many of my movies. For the sake of sorting by year, my folder structure is mostly like this: Movie Series/Avengers/2019 - Endgame Old Movies/1941 - Citizen Kane 1990s/1994 - Leon The Professional Tho I have separate folders for each year after 2000 and the folder names in them don't start with numbers, so Emby has no problem with identifying them (like 2015/The Martian). As I have a very large collection of movies and the folders are connected to their respective torrents, it would be far easier for me to find a way to make Emby ignore the pattern "NUMBER - " at the beginning of folder names while identifying with its online databases. Is there any way to do such thing? I know I could manually tell Emby which directory is what movie to identify, but as I said I've got so many movies and if I mass-rename the folders then I would have to relocate a large number of torrents in my bt client! Edited July 4, 2020 by messoud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathsquirrel 741 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) This is not a supported naming convention. If you're putting each movie in its own folder, and I encourage that, the folder name should match the movie name on your metadata provider. For simplicity's sake, I suggest doing the same with the movie file. So, for avengers endgame with TheMovieDB as my primary metadata provider I have \\SERVER\SHARE\Movies\Avengers Endgame (2019)\Avengers Endgame (2019).mkv. Your request is impossible to effectively parse as some movie titles are numbers. You can enclose elements to ignore in square brackets, [ ], though I don't recall off the top of my head if that can go at the start of a title. Edited July 4, 2020 by Deathsquirrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daedalus 430 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 58 minutes ago, Deathsquirrel said: Your request is impossible to effectively parse as some movie titles are numbers. impossible is kind a exaggerated, it's a pretty fixed pattern 4 digit year followed by dash followed by the title, is an absolut reasonable naming if you want your things sorted by year we just don't know why the naming scheme got changed in the 2000s, most people dont have a scheme or dont change it, but that's not to be discussed here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathsquirrel 741 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, daedalus said: impossible is kind a exaggerated, it's a pretty fixed pattern 4 digit year followed by dash followed by the title, is an absolut reasonable naming if you want your things sorted by year we just don't know why the naming scheme got changed in the 2000s, most people dont have a scheme or dont change it, but that's not to be discussed here Fair enough, as long as you religiously follow the pattern. Still, not gonna work today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusher11 854 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 hours ago, daedalus said: impossible is kind a exaggerated, it's a pretty fixed pattern 4 digit year followed by dash followed by the title, is an absolut reasonable naming if you want your things sorted by year we just don't know why the naming scheme got changed in the 2000s, most people dont have a scheme or dont change it, but that's not to be discussed here Do I take that to mean this is a bulk torrent that's floating around? Yet again, people obtaining their movies illegally and complaining that the system doesn't work for them. Buy discs and these problems go away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daedalus 430 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 4 hours ago, crusher11 said: Do I take that to mean this is a bulk torrent that's floating around? Yet again, people obtaining their movies illegally and complaining that the system doesn't work for them. Buy discs and these problems go away. lol what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messoud 0 Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 8 hours ago, Deathsquirrel said: This is not a supported naming convention. If you're putting each movie in its own folder, and I encourage that, the folder name should match the movie name on your metadata provider. For simplicity's sake, I suggest doing the same with the movie file. So, for avengers endgame with TheMovieDB as my primary metadata provider I have \\SERVER\SHARE\Movies\Avengers Endgame (2019)\Avengers Endgame (2019).mkv. Your request is impossible to effectively parse as some movie titles are numbers. You can enclose elements to ignore in square brackets, [ ], though I don't recall off the top of my head if that can go at the start of a title. I don't think that it would be "impossible" or even much hard for the devs to implement such feature; and there are not that many movies with a number at the start of their name. All I'm saying is to tell the metadata grabber to ignore 4 digits and a dash at the beginning of movie names or it could be told in a function that if it fails to retrieve metadata, then maybe ignore the numbers and search the first English word in the title! 7 hours ago, daedalus said: we just don't know why the naming scheme got changed in the 2000s, most people dont have a scheme or dont change it, but that's not to be discussed here Probably because I was bored and decided to organize my collection a few years ago, then as there were too many movie files from after the 2000s, it was easier to make yearly directories. I'm sure nothing of significance happened in the year 2000 around here 5 hours ago, crusher11 said: Do I take that to mean this is a bulk torrent that's floating around? Yet again, people obtaining their movies illegally and complaining that the system doesn't work for them. Buy discs and these problems go away. No it is not a bulk torrent. They're all the result of years of hard work and much blood and sweat spilled in underground cyber-mines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daedalus 430 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 minute ago, messoud said: Probably because I was bored and decided to organize my collection a few years ago, then as there were too many movie files from after the 2000s, it was easier to make yearly directories. I'm sure nothing of significance happened in the year 2000 around here if it's nothing special, why not grab an arbitrarty file renaming prog an simply update your old names, and get all fixxed without have to wait for someone to move? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messoud 0 Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 Just now, daedalus said: if it's nothing special, why not grab an arbitrarty file renaming prog an simply update your old names, and get all fixxed without have to wait for someone to move? Cuz I'm seeding all these OVER 9000 movies and then I would have to either relocate them all inside the torrent client or use a tool or write a bash to edit the torrent client's database. Both I bet are going to take lots of time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painkiller8818 203 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 9 hours ago, messoud said: like 2015/The Martian) This isn't a supported naming convention and implementing it like that will bring much more problems. Think about Movies really starting with numbers like 101 dalmatians, 47 ronin etc.... This will mean all these movies won't get recorgnized because you would tell em it is the year. Moviename (YEAR) is working. But 2015 The Martian would be a Problem (it could be part of the movie title) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daedalus 430 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Painkiller8818 said: This isn't a supported naming convention and implementing it like that will bring much more problems. it folder 2015 and then all movies from 2015 with just it's name als foldername 9 minutes ago, Painkiller8818 said: Think about Movies really starting with numbers like 101 dalmatians, 47 ronin etc.... This will mean all these movies won't get recorgnized because you would tell em it is the year. OP has a fixed pattern '4 digit year dash name' both examples, 101 dalmatians, 47 ronin, dont match it Edited July 5, 2020 by daedalus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daedalus 430 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 dont bet on anything and get it somehow fixed by yourself, as you see you wont get support here sry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusher11 854 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 54 minutes ago, messoud said: Cuz I'm seeding all these OVER 9000 movies and then I would have to either relocate them all inside the torrent client or use a tool or write a bash to edit the torrent client's database. Both I bet are going to take lots of time Like I said, buy discs and this problem goes away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathsquirrel 741 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 This has been answered. Your naming convention doesn't match any supported standard for Emby and clearly isn't working. You have some options: Rename your files Leave them as-is and manually identify them in Emby. Depending on your OS, you can create links to the files, name and organize those properly, and scan those. I haven't tested it in a while, but at one point several years ago I was doing this with Windows junction points to get around a limitation that used to exist in the library design. With options 2 and 3 you may choose to raise an enhancement request for support of your naming scheme as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceboy 2494 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 But let’s be honest it’s going to be far far far quicker for you to reorganise the file structure yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwhodges 1533 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 12 hours ago, messoud said: Cuz I'm seeding all these OVER 9000 movies Would any of those torrents die if you personally stopped seeding them? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusher11 854 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Better question: should the Emby devs care if torrents die? Buy. Your. Movies. It all works just fine then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messoud 0 Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 On 7/5/2020 at 1:50 PM, Painkiller8818 said: This isn't a supported naming convention and implementing it like that will bring much more problems. Think about Movies really starting with numbers like 101 dalmatians, 47 ronin etc.... This will mean all these movies won't get recorgnized because you would tell em it is the year. Moviename (YEAR) is working. But 2015 The Martian would be a Problem (it could be part of the movie title) But it wouldn't be hard to define some function where the users could tell the grabber to ignore patterns in names. On 7/5/2020 at 1:58 PM, daedalus said: dont bet on anything and get it somehow fixed by yourself, as you see you wont get support here sry Guess I'll make some more folders like 1940s/ and put the movies in them and put the year at the end of their folder names like 1940s/Citizen Kane [1941] and then I'll have to relocate sooo many torrents! On 7/5/2020 at 2:05 PM, crusher11 said: Like I said, buy discs and this problem goes away. NEVER!!1 17 hours ago, Deathsquirrel said: This has been answered. Your naming convention doesn't match any supported standard for Emby and clearly isn't working. You have some options: Rename your files Leave them as-is and manually identify them in Emby. Depending on your OS, you can create links to the files, name and organize those properly, and scan those. I haven't tested it in a while, but at one point several years ago I was doing this with Windows junction points to get around a limitation that used to exist in the library design. With options 2 and 3 you may choose to raise an enhancement request for support of your naming scheme as well. I haven't tested symlinks and shourtcuts hmm it might work but then it would be too messy I guess. I did this naming to organize my movies, if I create all those many symlinks like "Citizen Kane >> /some/directory/1941 - Citizen Kane" there would be a large pile of symlinks, disorganized and hard to manage. I dunno 15 hours ago, Spaceboy said: But let’s be honest it’s going to be far far far quicker for you to reorganise the file structure yourself Yeah, I guess it's gonna be that. Have to spare a few hours and do it. 12 hours ago, pwhodges said: Would any of those torrents die if you personally stopped seeding them? Paul YES! The universe would end and all the stars will go supernova and the planets will be devoured by supermassive black-holes if I stop seeding these movies. Also my ratio would go down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwhodges 1533 Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Disks are not all that expensive these days. Do what I do - have separate copies of your files for seeding and for streaming; then you can rename the streaming copy appropriately. This also provides you with a backup, of course, which is a good thing. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathsquirrel 741 Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, pwhodges said: Disks are not all that expensive these days. Do what I do - have separate copies of your files for seeding and for streaming; then you can rename the streaming copy appropriately. This also provides you with a backup, of course, which is a good thing. Paul They're cheap per MB but I have a LOT of MBs. If I ran two separate live copies that'd be another 1k on NAS enclosures and 4k on freaking drives. I shudder at the thought of implementing this advice Maybe just rent a server for seeding? I don't torrent but that also keeps it off your network for bandwidth caps. Might be value in that. Edited July 6, 2020 by Deathsquirrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messoud 0 Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) For the record, here's what I did and it mostly worked: I put the year numbers in [ ] and Emby ignored most of them, seems there are some bugs regarding this method but it worked for most of the movies, the rest I did manual identifying and edited the titles to remove the numbers from them. So the folder names ended up like this: Movies/1950s/[1953] - Roman Holiday/file.mkv I used https://www.bulkrenameutility.co.uk/ it might look a bit complicated and confusing at first but it's very feature-rich. In the "Add" section I told it to put a [ "prefix" at the beginning and then "insert" a ] "at position" 6 to end up like [1953] - ... 21 hours ago, pwhodges said: Disks are not all that expensive these days. Do what I do - have separate copies of your files for seeding and for streaming; then you can rename the streaming copy appropriately. This also provides you with a backup, of course, which is a good thing. Paul Not everywhere on this planet enjoys a stable economy. With the economy collapsing and the local currency equating to , disks are not cheap around here anymore... 8 hours ago, Deathsquirrel said: They're cheap per MB but I have a LOT of MBs. If I ran two separate live copies that'd be another 1k on NAS enclosures and 4k on freaking drives. I shudder at the thought of implementing this advice Maybe just rent a server for seeding? I don't torrent but that also keeps it off your network for bandwidth caps. Might be value in that. I used to buy large cheap disks and download like hell, then I took an arrow in the knee, now have to pay twice the price the 4TB Purples/Blacks were 2 years ago for just a 1TB Green! Donate your extra disks to me, also fill them with some "quality content" Edited July 7, 2020 by messoud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 17 hours ago, Deathsquirrel said: They're cheap per MB but I have a LOT of MBs. If I ran two separate live copies that'd be another 1k on NAS enclosures and 4k on freaking drives. I shudder at the thought of implementing this advice Maybe just rent a server for seeding? I don't torrent but that also keeps it off your network for bandwidth caps. Might be value in that. No reason to have 2 live copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathsquirrel 741 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 4 hours ago, cayars said: No reason to have 2 live copies. You suggested 2 copies, one for streaming and one for seeding. I say that would be expensive but I guess if I wasn't buying media because I could torrent everything, I'd have the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Deathsquirrel said: You suggested 2 copies, one for streaming and one for seeding. I say that would be expensive but I guess if I wasn't buying media because I could torrent everything, I'd have the money. Wasn't me who suggested that. I'm not a torrent person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathsquirrel 741 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 2 hours ago, cayars said: Wasn't me who suggested that. I'm not a torrent person. Well I CAN read even if I clearly don't always choose to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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