Mkilbride 76 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Currently FLAC is downmixed to AAC(ick). Most video players will usually downmix it to PCM / LPCM. I've seen Emby can play PCM, so I was just thinking this would be nice. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37167 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Hi there, what Emby app are you playing with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xorp 47 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) I've had the same issue with the Android TV version (Shield) for like... 1-2 years. I think an ExoPlayer update broke it at some point. It used to output PCM 5.1/6.1/7.1 just fine from FLAC 5.1/6.1./7.1. Multichannel FLAC to PCM is working in Kodi though. Edited May 13, 2020 by Xorp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkilbride 76 Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 Android TV. Flac decodes as AAC. Which is so strange. Plex decodes it as PCM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikSlayer 197 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 I agree with the OP. If I have content in FLAC format then clearly, audio quality is something important to me. Converting a lossless audio format to a lossy audio format makes little sense, unless in situations where bandwidth is limited. Android TV is not one of those situations where that should be a problem. If it is, then that's up to the user to correct. Either way, an option for the user to choose would be best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14947 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 I agree with the OP. If I have content in FLAC format then clearly, audio quality is something important to me. Converting a lossless audio format to a lossy audio format makes little sense, unless in situations where bandwidth is limited. Android TV is not one of those situations where that should be a problem. If it is, then that's up to the user to correct. Either way, an option for the user to choose would be best. That depends on where the conversion is taking place. If on the server, then bandwidth could very well come into play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikSlayer 197 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 That depends on where the conversion is taking place. If on the server, then bandwidth could very well come into play. Agreed. That's what I meant by 'situations'. Also why an option is the best solution IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkilbride 76 Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share Posted May 15, 2020 The thing is, you only have FLAC files if you want quality. Downmixing them to a lossy format makes zero sense. So it's really the end users responsibility to decide. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xorp 47 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) I agree with the OP. If I have content in FLAC format then clearly, audio quality is something important to me. Converting a lossless audio format to a lossy audio format makes little sense, unless in situations where bandwidth is limited. Android TV is not one of those situations where that should be a problem. If it is, then that's up to the user to correct. Either way, an option for the user to choose would be best. As I already stated, it.used.to.work. FLAC would output as PCM (on Emby for Android TV). Then it was broken at some point, presumably by an ExoPlayer update. Edited May 21, 2020 by Xorp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikSlayer 197 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 As I already stated, it.used.to.work. FLAC would output as PCM (on Emby for Android TV). Then it was broken at some point, presumably by an ExoPlayer update. All the more this should be fixed, and we should have the option to output as PCM as default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkilbride 76 Posted May 24, 2020 Author Share Posted May 24, 2020 I really want this. Think about how stupid this is: I have a series with FLAC. It's HEVC x265. It should direct play. But instead...Emby downmixes the FLAC to AAC. Which won't direct play.(No receiver has support for it). SO then it has to transcode. When if it simply decoded it as PCM / LPCM(That's what is in the container), it'd direct stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xorp 47 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) On 5/21/2020 at 3:33 PM, SikSlayer said: All the more this should be fixed, and we should have the option to output as PCM as default. Something is more broken than usual, I did some more testing and both FLAC 2.0 and 1.0 don't work either, both are considered "unsupported audio" by Emby and are transcoded to AAC. So basically no FLAC works at all, not sure if it's Emby or ExoPlayer. There's no major FLAC issues like this reported in ExoPlayer's github issue page, so I'm guessing it's Emby. Edited June 18, 2020 by Xorp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14947 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 7 hours ago, Xorp said: There's no major FLAC issues like this reported in ExoPlayer's github issue page, Native Exo doesn't support FLAC. It is only through an extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkilbride 76 Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share Posted June 18, 2020 How 'bout you guys make your own video play that supports everything, including Hi10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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