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kaledi

Hello - I've started to put movie extras into an 'extras' folder within the main movie folder e.g.

 

Movies > ABCDEF > AMOVIE (2019) > Extras

 

However, even after a library rescan these are not showing up for the vast majority of movies.

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pwhodges

This is known, and has been fixed in the beta for the next release: see here.

 

Paul

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Happy2Play

Is your issue with only multi-version items?

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JBEmby

I'll chime in, I'm having this issue as well. Extras show up for movies with only one version, but as soon as I add other versions the extras disappear and any animated backdrops and trailers seem to not get detected.

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Luke

It's resolved for the next release. Thanks.

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Fweep
Posted (edited)

Extras are not showing up for me, even when there is only one version of the movie.

I think the problem is that I have other subfolders within the movie folder, e.g. I often have a folder for my .avs conversion scripts or .txt notes. If I add a .ignore to that subfolder, Emby then is suddenly able to see the extras in the other folders.

Even the existence of an empty folder, without a .ignore in it, is sufficient to result in Emby ignoring the extras, featurettes, interviews, etc. folders at the same level.

Is this fixed in the beta?

[edit:] Still, trailers don't show up at all. If the filename has (ends with?) " trailer" (e.g. in an "extras" folder) or if the file is located in a trailers folder, then it doesn't show up at all. Are trailers only supported via the trailers plugin? If so, this is not at all clear in the wiki. I want to go to the movie page and see the trailers, and choose to watch them if I want. Is that not an option?

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cayars

@Fweep Can you give us a few pics of a problematic movie folder structure like you describe?

No if you follow the knowledge base naming for trailers they should be showing up and used in the movie detail screen.

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Fweep
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On 7/13/2020 at 11:14 AM, cayars said:

@Fweep Can you give us a few pics of a problematic movie folder structure like you describe?

No if you follow the knowledge base naming for trailers they should be showing up and used in the movie detail screen.

The KB says to put trailers in a trailers folder, or use the movie folder and name it the same as the movie followed by -trailer. That naming scheme is not good for movies which have more than one trailer, or which come with trailers for other movies and video games. These are my own DVD rips and each movie typically comes with one or more trailers for the movie itself, along with a few trailers for other movies. So I like to just put them all in an extras or trailers folder, with whatever filenames are appropriate.

Starting with the following directory structure:

E:\video\movies\musicals\[1961] West Side Story>dir /s
 Volume in drive E is Eldin Province (mirrored)
 Volume Serial Number is A646-A1AC

 Directory of E:\video\movies\musicals\[1961] West Side Story

07/15/2020  05:14 AM    <DIR>          .
07/15/2020  05:14 AM    <DIR>          ..
07/15/2020  05:09 AM    <DIR>          conversion scripts
07/13/2020  04:26 AM    <DIR>          extras
07/13/2020  04:26 AM    <DIR>          interviews
07/12/2020  05:16 PM    <DIR>          trailers
07/13/2020  03:16 AM           152,050 West Side Story (1961)-clearlogo.png
07/13/2020  03:16 AM           289,846 West Side Story (1961)-fanart.jpg
07/15/2020  05:14 AM           561,953 West Side Story (1961)-landscape.jpg
07/13/2020  03:16 AM           207,232 West Side Story (1961)-poster.jpg
07/12/2020  05:13 PM     1,990,441,991 West Side Story (1961).mkv
07/15/2020  05:18 AM            10,247 West Side Story (1961).nfo
               6 File(s)  1,991,663,319 bytes

 Directory of E:\video\movies\musicals\[1961] West Side Story\conversion scripts

07/15/2020  05:09 AM    <DIR>          .
07/15/2020  05:09 AM    <DIR>          ..
07/12/2020  07:06 AM               378 Fiddler on the Roof DVD - trailer.avs
07/12/2020  09:15 AM               389 MGM Means Great Movies - ad.avs
07/12/2020  07:04 AM               378 Some Like It Hot DVD - trailer.avs
07/12/2020  07:10 AM               378 The Last Waltz DVD - trailer.avs
07/12/2020  11:40 AM               167 West Side Story (1961).avs
07/12/2020  07:11 AM               378 West Side Story - storyboard & scene comparison.avs
07/12/2020  08:50 AM               167 West Side Story - trailer 1.avs
07/12/2020  09:03 AM               167 West Side Story - trailer 2.avs
07/12/2020  09:03 AM               167 West Side Story - trailer 3.avs
07/12/2020  09:10 AM               170 West Side Story - trailer 4.avs
07/12/2020  04:48 AM               378 West_Side_Memories.avs
              11 File(s)          3,117 bytes

 Directory of E:\video\movies\musicals\[1961] West Side Story\extras

07/13/2020  04:26 AM    <DIR>          .
07/13/2020  04:26 AM    <DIR>          ..
07/12/2020  08:00 AM        38,803,974 West Side Story - storyboard & scene comparison.mkv
07/15/2020  05:12 AM             1,582 West Side Story - storyboard & scene comparison.nfo
               2 File(s)     38,805,556 bytes

 Directory of E:\video\movies\musicals\[1961] West Side Story\interviews

07/13/2020  04:26 AM    <DIR>          .
07/13/2020  04:26 AM    <DIR>          ..
07/12/2020  10:48 AM       453,080,489 West Side Memories.mkv
07/13/2020  04:26 AM             1,552 West Side Memories.nfo
               2 File(s)    453,082,041 bytes

 Directory of E:\video\movies\musicals\[1961] West Side Story\trailers

07/12/2020  05:16 PM    <DIR>          .
07/12/2020  05:16 PM    <DIR>          ..
07/12/2020  09:34 AM        17,274,324 Fiddler on the Roof DVD - trailer.mkv
07/12/2020  09:34 AM        12,654,524 MGM Means Great Movies - ad.mkv
07/12/2020  09:34 AM        12,238,575 Some Like It Hot DVD - trailer.mkv
07/12/2020  09:35 AM        15,575,688 The Last Waltz DVD - trailer.mkv
07/12/2020  11:00 AM        20,633,958 West Side Story - trailer 1.mkv
07/12/2020  11:00 AM        39,328,039 West Side Story - trailer 2.mkv
07/12/2020  11:00 AM        54,660,390 West Side Story - trailer 3.mkv
07/12/2020  11:07 AM        44,002,076 West Side Story - trailer 4.mkv
               8 File(s)    216,367,574 bytes

     Total Files Listed:
              29 File(s)  2,699,921,607 bytes
              14 Dir(s)  1,648,580,767,744 bytes free

I then add the E:\video\movies\musicals folder to the library with the name Musicals and type Movies.

The result, because I did not put a .ignore in the conversion scripts folder, is that no extras are listed at all:

wss_noextras.jpg

Now let's add conversion scripts\.ignore:

E:\video\movies\musicals\[1961] West Side Story>copy NUL "conversion scripts\.ignore"

Wait a bit and voilà, we now have the content from the interviews & extras folders, but still no trailers:

wss_extras_notrailers.jpg

Before you shoot in the dark, no, it does not make a difference if the movie folder is renamed to West Side Story (1961) instead of [1961] West Side Story. It also does not matter what is in the additional folder; it needn't be AviSynth scripts; it can be an empty folder named foo and have the same result.

It also does not matter if I put the trailers in the extras folder; the other content in that folder will show, but not the trailers. And there is nothing odd about the trailer files themselves; I make them the same way as the movies.

My images are showing the web player on the server, but the result is the same via the Roku app, just instead of Extras it says Features.

Edited by Fweep
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cayars
Posted (edited)

You could just put a dot in front of  "conversion scripts" and make it ".conversion scripts".  The dot in the folder name will stop it from being scanned.  You really aren't following the naming convention with the date at the front nor does it help using different base names  across folders, but since they are in the properly named folders it shouldn't have mattered.

Could you rotate your log using the schedule task feature then do a refresh on just this movie and upload the server log?  There might be something in the log worth looking at.

When you click the trailer button is it playing your trailer or from the Internet?

Thanks,

Carlo

Edited by cayars

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serpi

You DO have trailers or else the trailer button would not be there.

Trailers are not shown in the the extras section but are played on the trailers button.

If you want trailers in extras, put them in extras, not trailers.

Ciao, Alfred

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Fweep
Posted (edited)

@cayars / @serpi

Thanks for the helpful responses.

I will rename the superfluous folders with a leading dot instead of adding a .ignore file. Thanks for the tip.

Last I checked, the debug logs had nothing related to trailer detection in them.

For this movie, the Trailer button was always there; it previously loaded a YouTube video. In my testing over the past week, that's all I could ever get to happen, for some reason. But you're right, I tried it just now, and it plays all of the detected trailers in sequence. That's great; thanks.

Moving the files over to the extras folder does not result in them showing up as Extras, with one exception: the one file with no "trailer" in its name does show up.

So there are some notable differences between what the movie naming guide says and what Emby actually does. I did some more experimenting and figured out what is going on. Assuming this is all the intended behavior, it would be ideal if the Knowledge Base sections on trailers and movie/extras naming could include the following:

  • Files are considered to be trailers if they are in a trailers folder, or the file name is the movie file name followed by -trailer, or the file name includes the word trailer preceded by a dash or space.
  • Trailers will not show as Extras or Features in the Emby player; they are only playable via the Trailer button, where they will play in sequence and cannot be individually selected.
  • If there are no trailers detected, the Trailer button may still appear, due to trailers designated in the movie metadata. Such trailers will not appear in Emby's metadata editor, but can be designated in NFO files.
  • In the movie folder, the presence of subfolders with unrecognized names may interfere with the detection of extras and trailers. Move or rename such folders to begin with a leading dot, or add a .ignore file to them.

I prefer the Trailer button only show me trailers for the movie itself. But I also want to see those trailers and any other trailers under Extras so I can individually play them. I think the simplest solution is to rename all of the trailers to begin with "trailer - " so they don't get detected as trailers. Just the movie trailers go in a trailers folder so they will be played with the Trailer button. The others go in the extras folder. I can then symlink or hardlink from the extras folder to the movie trailer files that I additionally want to show up under Extras:

/trailers:
trailer - West Side Story [1].mkv
trailer - West Side Story [2].mkv
trailer - West Side Story [3].mkv
trailer - West Side Story [4].mkv

/extras:
trailer - Fiddler on the Roof DVD.mkv
trailer - MGM Means Great Movies.mkv
trailer - Some Like It Hot DVD.mkv
trailer - The Last Waltz DVD.mkv
trailer - West Side Story [1].mkv -> ../trailers/trailer - West Side Story [1].mkv
trailer - West Side Story [2].mkv -> ../trailers/trailer - West Side Story [2].mkv
trailer - West Side Story [3].mkv -> ../trailers/trailer - West Side Story [3].mkv
trailer - West Side Story [4].mkv -> ../trailers/trailer - West Side Story [4].mkv

/interviews:
West Side Memories.mkv

 

Edited by Fweep
added final folder listing
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cayars

Good write up.

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