troyhough 57 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Hey @@Luke Did you get your ATSC 3.0 tuner ordered for testing yet!?!!?? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1275320038/hdhomerun-atsc-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37290 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Yes we'll be supporting this. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troyhough 57 Posted April 22, 2020 Author Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) On 4/22/2020 at 3:07 PM, Luke said: Yes we'll be supporting this. I ordered. Thanks. Edit: Should have within a week. Edited October 7, 2020 by troyhough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 739 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Pretty sure that @@softworkz needs a DEV version to toy around with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troyhough 57 Posted April 22, 2020 Author Share Posted April 22, 2020 Pretty sure that @@softworkz needs a DEV version to toy around with. $299https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1275320038/hdhomerun-atsc-30 Development Edition (Technical) Under the cover - the HDHomeRun QUATRO 4K Circuit board The HDHR5-4K DEV model has additional features for development and tinkering if you want to do more than watch TV. Only useful for developers. The DEV firmware supports the following formats transferred with a simple curl/wget command (no software required): Real-time capture of ALP packets to an ALP PCAP file. Real-time capture of IPv4 packets to an IPv4 PCAP file. Real-time IPv4 multicast packet forwarding to the local network. Real-time IPv4 targeted packet forwarding to the local network. Real-time TAR file containing DASH files from DASH/ROUTE. Real-time TAR file containing DASH files converted from MMTP. Real-time TS generation from DASH/ROUTE content. Real-time TS generation from MMTP content. ALP and IPv4 PCAP files can be opened and examined in Wireshark. (Silicondust has submitted an ALP protocol decoder to the Wireshark code base). TAR files can be extracted to disk and played via a webserver after minor tweaks to the manifest to indicate stored rather than real-time segments. TS files can be played in traditional TV apps subject to codecs. The DEV firmware supports the following replay modes fetching via HTTP: Time paced replay of ALP PCAP files. Time paced replay of IPv4 PCAP files. Proxy of apps to simulate apps received via the tuner. Support for testing interactive apps is under development with the goal being to proxy and inject apps as if they are part of the broadcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightsout 144 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Are any networks actually broadcasting in 4k/hdr, I know there have been a few sports games but didn't think they were OTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 739 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Are any networks actually broadcasting in 4k/hdr, I know there have been a few sports games but didn't think they were OTA. They've been shuffling stations around in Los Angeles Market to get ready. I think they go live soon but who knows with CoVid19 and all.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revengineer 128 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 I hope they deliver! Remember the Prime 6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troyhough 57 Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 Are any networks actually broadcasting in 4k/hdr, I know there have been a few sports games but didn't think they were OTA. https://www.tvtechnology.com/atsc3/atsc-3-0-to-be-deployed-in-40-u-s-markets-by-end-of-year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightsout 144 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 They've been shuffling stations around in Los Angeles Market to get ready. I think they go live soon but who knows with CoVid19 and all.. Curse you CoVID-19! I hope they deliver! Remember the Prime 6? Ha, they still have never cancelled it, I just went to two Primes. https://www.silicondust.com/product/hdhomerun-prime-6/ https://www.tvtechnology.com/atsc3/atsc-3-0-to-be-deployed-in-40-u-s-markets-by-end-of-year Wow that's pretty sweet, if this popped up in my area I would have to get an antenna and a quatro to check it out. But I am not holding my breath here in southern Oregon for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softworkz 3350 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Pretty sure that @@softworkz needs a DEV version to toy around with. It's not overly exciting because many aspects have just been copied (or they would say "adapted") from the DVB-T2 standard. There will be differences we'll need to address, but a few stream recordingss will suffice for that ;-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troyhough 57 Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 It's not overly exciting because many aspects have just been copied (or they would say "adapted") from the DVB-T2 standard. There will be differences we'll need to address, but a few stream recordingss will suffice for that ;-) @@softworkz Will Emby be able to do Direct Play for ATSC 3.0 on Android TV, Android App, and/or Chrome Mobile Web? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softworkz 3350 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 @@softworkz Will Emby be able to do Direct Play for ATSC 3.0 on Android TV, Android App, and/or Chrome Mobile Web? That's not a valid question because ATSC 3.0 is a broadcast standard, not a video/audio format. There can be many different kinds of streams transmitted via ATSC3.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troyhough 57 Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 That's not a valid question because ATSC 3.0 is a broadcast standard, not a video/audio format. There can be many different kinds of streams transmitted via ATSC3.0 I guess it's HEVC/H.265 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softworkz 3350 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I guess it's HEVC/H.265 No "it's" not. It can be, but it doesn't have to be. Same for a bunch of other details (audio, interlacing, resolution, framerate, etc..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troyhough 57 Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 No "it's" not. It can be, but it doesn't have to be. Same for a bunch of other details (audio, interlacing, resolution, framerate, etc..) So is the answer yes, no, maybe, not sure, we'll see, don't know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softworkz 3350 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 There are many different possible cases that the spec allows, and we'll have to see which ones will actually show up in the real world. For each one, the answer to your question might vary (and by device as well). There are some things I can't talk about at this time, but I can at least assure that the primary goal for live tv in the local network will be to deliver the original unmodified broadcast stream to tv clients as as long as that's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troyhough 57 Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) Ok thanks for the info and looking forward to trying it all out!! Edited October 7, 2020 by troyhough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdjafa 1 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 ATSC 3.0 mandates the video be HEVC (h.265). Local channels here in Phoenix are mostly 1080p60 HEVC. The one weird thing - the standard still allows interlaced content. We haven't see any broadcasts use interlaced HEVC but it is allowed. Nick - Silicondust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyfesaver 65 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 I bought one of the Dev units and it will be here tomorrow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troyhough 57 Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Lyfesaver said: I bought one of the Dev units and it will be here tomorrow. Sweet. Are you in a 3.0 market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyfesaver 65 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 I am. Dallas, TX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyfesaver 65 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Am hooking it up today... will report back soon-ish (tonight) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troyhough 57 Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lyfesaver said: Am hooking it up today... will report back soon-ish (tonight) Send a link to a sample video you uploaded somewhere (raw) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyfesaver 65 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 You bet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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