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#1 Jdiesel ONLINE  

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 12:23 AM

Are the benefits of using a SSD for the transcoding temp folder worth the impact on SSD drive endurance?

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 12:30 AM

I use an M.2. The amount of live tv I watch, I think it's the best option.



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Posted 22 May 2019 - 01:11 PM

An interesting article - https://www.ontrack....ds-really-last/

 

In summary, unless you are writing TB's worth of data to the SSD 24x7, then even for commercial drives, it will more than likely outlast it's usefulness before a capacity or speed upgrade is due.


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Posted 22 May 2019 - 01:20 PM

The warranty on my 1TB MX500 is good for 360TB written. I assume it could easily last double if not more than that meaning I could watch my entire library with transcoding multiple times and not reach that limit.

 

Not to mention with the way SSD prices are falling I wouldn't be surprised to see prices cut in half in two years time.



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Posted 22 May 2019 - 01:25 PM

NVMe drives are something else to consider.

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 01:33 PM

Look how cheap these things are.

MyDigitalSSD BPX Pro 80mm (2280-S3-M) M.2 PCI Express 3.1 x4 (PCIe Gen3 x4) NVMe SSD (256GB (240GB)) https://www.amazon.c...i_mFy5CbEJTHVT1

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 02:24 PM

NVMe drives are something else to consider.


If your MB has a slot for them.

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 02:38 PM

If your MB has a slot for them.


Correct. But I suspect that jdiesel's board is modern enough, that it does.

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 03:03 PM

I use a old 240gb ssd for my transcoding directory. Works well. I haven’t had to manually empty it and there’s about 2gb of temp files on it at present

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 03:07 PM

I use a old 240gb ssd for my transcoding directory. Works well. I haven’t had to manually empty it and there’s about 2gb of temp files on it at present


Is that separate to the SSD you use as a landing zone disk in DriveBender?

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 03:08 PM

Is that separate to the SSD you use as a landing zone disk in DriveBender?

it is, it’s my old os disk. Using a nvme drive for the DB landing zone
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Posted 22 May 2019 - 03:11 PM

Correct. But I suspect that jdiesel's board is modern enough, that it does.

 

It is but it wasn't until after I purchased it that I realized my MSI board disabled some of the sata ports when a m.2 drive was attached. Unfortunately I need all the sata ports I can get my hands on for mechanical storage drives so I ended up going with a sata III 2.5" SSD instead. 


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Posted 22 May 2019 - 03:30 PM

It is but it wasn't until after I purchased it that I realized my MSI board disabled some of the sata ports when a m.2 drive was attached. Unfortunately I need all the sata ports I can get my hands on for mechanical storage drives so I ended up going with a sata III 2.5" SSD instead.


Ah, yes, that is a consideration. Intel boards/CPUs don't have a lot channels, and if you need those SATA ports, it's a problem. This is another advantage of the Ryzen hardware. My threadripper baord/CPU has 64 channels, and 8 SATA ports. On my Intel machines, I don't require all of the SATA ports, so I can use an M.2. That said, one of my Gigabyte Intel baords has an M.2 NVMe SSD without disabling any SATA ports.

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Posted 23 May 2019 - 03:16 PM

Do you see a real difference in performance compared to an HDD?



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Posted 23 May 2019 - 03:22 PM

Do you see a real difference in performance compared to an HDD?


That'll vary by use case. Example: if you use a mechanical drive that turns off, then it has to spin up. Which may cause a hiccup.

The main reason I used a separate transcode drive, was to limit wear on my primary drive, and to always have enough space. And I chose the drive I have, because yes it's an SSD, but it's a stick that attaches to the motherboard, doesn't take up space and doesn't use cables. It was simply the best option available to me.
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Posted 23 May 2019 - 03:27 PM

That'll vary by use case. Example: if you use a mechanical drive that turns off, then it has to spin up. Which may cause a hiccup.

The main reason I used a separate transcode drive, was to limit wear on my primary drive, and to always have enough space. And I chose the drive I have, because yes it's an SSD, but it's a stick that attaches to the motherboard, doesn't take up space and doesn't use cables. It was simply the best option available to me.

Thank you for the return, actually I have a SSD plugged into USB because I have more cable available.
It was used to deport these files that change often to make a full backup of my LXD container.
I will see to put it on a sata drive.

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Posted 23 May 2019 - 03:38 PM

Thank you for the return, actually I have a SSD plugged into USB because I have more cable available.
It was used to deport these files that change often to make a full backup of my LXD container.
I will see to put it on a sata drive.


A USB port may cause a bottle neck, depending on how many files are being transcoded.
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Posted 23 May 2019 - 05:50 PM

Do you see a real difference in performance compared to an HDD?

honestly, I can’t say that I can see much difference, just had a spare ssd in the pc once I’d moved my os off it so I thought I would try it

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Posted 25 May 2019 - 09:49 PM

I definitely recommend a solid state drive for your transcoding. I have about 20 live TV streams going at one time. Not perfect yet but I'm working with awesome employees to get there.




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