mbc0 63 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Hi, I have touched on this before and spent a lot of time experimenting with file naming conventions but struggling with inconsistency. I have thousands of video's that are not multi-part videos (Motorsport Events, Home Video's etc) If I could find a naming convention that would always work then I would be happy but what works one time may not work the next. Although I would like a folder that is not monitored, I would also like to keep the automatic thumbnail that mbs creates and the notification that it now gives. Here an example of what I am struggling with MotoGP 2013 Round 04 France (720p) MotoGP 2013 Round 05 Italy (720p) MotoGP 2013 Round 06 Spain (720p) etc etc are NOT detected as multipart videos but!....... MotoGP 2014 Round 01 Qatar (720p) MotoGP 2014 Round 02 USA (720p) MotoGP 2014 Round 03 Argentina (720p) ARE detected as multipart videos, just when I think I have found a naming convention that will work I can add 4,5,6 more videos to that folder and then mbs changes it's mind :-( I have the same for Australia Holiday Day 1 Australia Holiday Day 2 Australia Holiday Day 3 etc etc one minute mbs is happy they are not multipart and then Australia Holiday Day 4 Australia Holiday Day 5 ARE multipart Any help on this would be MASSIVELY appreciated :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolerant 70 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 There is or was a setting for how many parts are min/max considered to be a multi part movie in MB2, not sure if that might at all be related to what you are experiencing now though, maybe someone else can shed some light. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5062 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 You can tell mb to not monitor a folder by placing a ".ignore" file inside 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koleckai Silvestri 1150 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 You can lock folders against Metadata updates as well. Click on the Pen icon in the dashboard to enter the metadata editor. Select your folder at the left and edit it. Scroll down to metadata and turn off everything to lock it. Save and it won't update in the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbc0 63 Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 Thank you for the advice guys... I will have a play with that! @Frostbite with the .ignore works like the Android .nomedia I guess? With Frostbites & Wayne Luke ideas I would unfortunately lose the screenshot/thumbnail that mbs creates & the notification that a video has been added to my library which is a shame but it is better than not being able to see alot of videos which is my current scenario.. I wish there was an option to point mbs to a folder & tell it there are no multi-part videos in there or something similar Thanks for your help guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14960 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 .ignore is not going to do what you want. That will make the item not appear in your library. Maybe we could have "Home Videos" ignore the multi-part naming convention...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolerant 70 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 .ignore is not going to do what you want. That will make the item not appear in your library. Maybe we could have "Home Videos" ignore the multi-part naming convention...? How about just a setting for the types of movies, on/off to allow/disallow seeing things as multi part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14960 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 How about just a setting for the types of movies, on/off to allow/disallow seeing things as multi part? That is too obscure and would be confusing to someone who doesn't know what a "multi-part" movie is. I'd rather have the system make intelligent choices and, I think, it is probably reasonable to assume that home videos don't need mult-part support. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbc0 63 Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 That is exactly what I am after! I keep all my motorsport/home video's in the folder assigned to "Home Videos" if you could stop mbs automatically making my videos multipart I would be a very happy man :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolerant 70 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 That is too obscure and would be confusing to someone who doesn't know what a "multi-part" movie is. I'd rather have the system make intelligent choices and, I think, it is probably reasonable to assume that home videos don't need mult-part support. Sometimes making software too "smart" just ends up making it less flexible and actually "dumber". You very well might end up with some users who have: Vacation-Trip.part1.mp4 Vacation-Trip.part2.mp4 Vacation-Trip.part3.mp4 and they want to watch a video of their vacation and a third of the way thru they have to start another part of it etc. Instead of just being able to set a simple on/off toggle with simple text explaining what that does like the rest of the options already available in MB3. I ain't saying ya all can't do what ya want, but I suspect a forced choice like this is not going to fit every users needs which is why an option makes more sense to me. Perhaps something in the Advanced tab, "Multi-Part" then toggles for the types of supported files, Movies, Tv, Home Videos, Adult, ..etc. Doesn't seem obscure if it is explained on that tab. Anyways good luck, it's not something I even use just an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbc0 63 Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 Sometimes making software too "smart" just ends up making it less flexible and actually "dumber". You very well might end up with some users who have: Vacation-Trip.part1.mp4 Vacation-Trip.part2.mp4 Vacation-Trip.part3.mp4 and they want to watch a video of their vacation and a third of the way thru they have to start another part of it etc. Instead of just being able to set a simple on/off toggle with simple text explaining what that does like the rest of the options already available in MB3. I ain't saying ya all can't do what ya want, but I suspect a forced choice like this is not going to fit every users needs which is why an option makes more sense to me. Perhaps something in the Advanced tab, "Multi-Part" then toggles for the types of supported files, Movies, Tv, Home Videos, Adult, ..etc. Doesn't seem obscure if it is explained on that tab. Anyways good luck, it's not something I even use just an opinion. Everyones different which is why there is not one solution that fit's all but I would expect most people would be happy not to have multi-part videos in their home video folder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolerant 70 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Everyones different which is why there is not one solution that fit's all That's the only reason I suggest it as an option, thanks for pointing that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14960 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Sometimes making software too "smart" just ends up making it less flexible and actually "dumber". You very well might end up with some users who have: Yes but "dumber" also = simpler - which sometimes is much more important. 80% of users only use about 10% of the options implemented in software and most don't even know about the other 90% that are available. Therefore, we strive to make the default operation of the program work for those 80% of people instead of making them go find an option - because most of them won't even look - or ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbc0 63 Posted May 7, 2014 Author Share Posted May 7, 2014 (edited) Hi, Will anything happen with this thread or can a temporary solution be suggested for me please as I just need something that will work consistently with regard to post #1 Many Thanks in advance :-) Edited May 7, 2014 by mbc0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37274 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 i'm a little unclear on the issue. can you summarize it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbc0 63 Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share Posted May 8, 2014 Hi Luke, really hard to expand on what I said in post #1 but I will try :-) basically, I have thousands of home videos/motorsport videos that are being detected as multi-part videos but not consistantly... obviously for these catagories I would never want anything to be detected as a multi-part video I am looking for either having a media folder that will never detect a multi-part video or a naming convention that will never be detected as a multi-part video For example MotoGP 2013 Round 04 France (720p) MotoGP 2013 Round 05 Italy (720p) MotoGP 2013 Round 06 Spain (720p) etc etc are NOT detected as multipart videos and I can select whichever video I would like to watch but!....... MotoGP 2014 Round 01 Qatar (720p) MotoGP 2014 Round 02 USA (720p) MotoGP 2014 Round 03 Argentina (720p) ARE detected as multipart videos, just when I think I have found a naming convention that will work I can add 4,5,6 more videos to that folder and then mbs changes it's mind :-( I have the same for Australia Holiday Day 1 Australia Holiday Day 2 Australia Holiday Day 3 etc etc one minute mbs is happy they are not multipart and then Australia Holiday Day 4 Australia Holiday Day 5 ARE multipart I hope this helps to make it clear? Many Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37274 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 music videos and trailers could be a workaround. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbc0 63 Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share Posted May 8, 2014 ok, thanks Luke I will try & report back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbc0 63 Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share Posted May 8, 2014 (edited) Hi, I am having most success with using a music video folder (although it is creating an annoying xml file for every video) but will need to test over a week or so as before my problems are intermittent One thing I have found though is I am always finding the same video files are not generating a thumbnail? the video's play perfectly but I get this error in the log... any ideas? 2014-05-08 02:18:16.3758 Error - ProviderManager: MovieDbImageProvider failed in GetImageInfos for type Movie 2014-05-08 02:18:33.2095 Error - MediaEncoder: ffmpeg image extraction failed for file:"\\HPSERVER\DrivePool - Videos\Videos\Sport\Motorsport\MotoGP\2013\MotoGP 2013 Round 03 Jerez (720p).mkv" 2014-05-08 02:18:33.2095 Error - MediaEncoder: I-frame image extraction failed, will attempt standard way. Input: file:"\\HPSERVER\DrivePool - Videos\Videos\Sport\Motorsport\MotoGP\2013\MotoGP 2013 Round 03 Jerez (720p).mkv" 2014-05-08 02:18:33.4845 Error - MediaEncoder: ffmpeg image extraction failed for file:"\\HPSERVER\DrivePool - Videos\Videos\Sport\Motorsport\MotoGP\2013\MotoGP 2013 Round 01 Quatar (720p).mkv" 2014-05-08 02:18:33.4845 Error - MediaEncoder: I-frame image extraction failed, will attempt standard way. Input: file:"\\HPSERVER\DrivePool - Videos\Videos\Sport\Motorsport\MotoGP\2013\MotoGP 2013 Round 01 Quatar (720p).mkv" 2014-05-08 02:18:33.8935 Error - MediaEncoder: ffmpeg image extraction failed for file:"\\HPSERVER\DrivePool - Videos\Videos\Sport\Motorsport\MotoGP\2013\MotoGP 2013 Round 03 Jerez (720p).mkv" 2014-05-08 02:18:33.8935 Error - App: Error in Screen Grabber 2014-05-08 02:18:34.1805 Error - MediaEncoder: ffmpeg image extraction failed for file:"\\HPSERVER\DrivePool - Videos\Videos\Sport\Motorsport\MotoGP\2013\MotoGP 2013 Round 01 Quatar (720p).mkv" 2014-05-08 02:18:34.1805 Error - App: Error in Screen Grabber Edited May 8, 2014 by mbc0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbc0 63 Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share Posted May 8, 2014 Hi, I am having most success with using a music video folder (although it is creating an annoying xml file for every video) but will need to test over a week or so as before my problems are intermittent One thing I have found though is I am always finding the same video files are not generating a thumbnail? the video's play perfectly but I get this error in the log... any ideas? 2014-05-08 02:18:16.3758 Error - ProviderManager: MovieDbImageProvider failed in GetImageInfos for type Movie 2014-05-08 02:18:33.2095 Error - MediaEncoder: ffmpeg image extraction failed for file:"\\HPSERVER\DrivePool - Videos\Videos\Sport\Motorsport\MotoGP\2013\MotoGP 2013 Round 03 Jerez (720p).mkv" 2014-05-08 02:18:33.2095 Error - MediaEncoder: I-frame image extraction failed, will attempt standard way. Input: file:"\\HPSERVER\DrivePool - Videos\Videos\Sport\Motorsport\MotoGP\2013\MotoGP 2013 Round 03 Jerez (720p).mkv" 2014-05-08 02:18:33.4845 Error - MediaEncoder: ffmpeg image extraction failed for file:"\\HPSERVER\DrivePool - Videos\Videos\Sport\Motorsport\MotoGP\2013\MotoGP 2013 Round 01 Quatar (720p).mkv" 2014-05-08 02:18:33.4845 Error - MediaEncoder: I-frame image extraction failed, will attempt standard way. Input: file:"\\HPSERVER\DrivePool - Videos\Videos\Sport\Motorsport\MotoGP\2013\MotoGP 2013 Round 01 Quatar (720p).mkv" 2014-05-08 02:18:33.8935 Error - MediaEncoder: ffmpeg image extraction failed for file:"\\HPSERVER\DrivePool - Videos\Videos\Sport\Motorsport\MotoGP\2013\MotoGP 2013 Round 03 Jerez (720p).mkv" 2014-05-08 02:18:33.8935 Error - App: Error in Screen Grabber 2014-05-08 02:18:34.1805 Error - MediaEncoder: ffmpeg image extraction failed for file:"\\HPSERVER\DrivePool - Videos\Videos\Sport\Motorsport\MotoGP\2013\MotoGP 2013 Round 01 Quatar (720p).mkv" 2014-05-08 02:18:34.1805 Error - App: Error in Screen Grabber Sorry, forget about the chapter extraction problem, I shouldn't have asked as it a completely seperate problem and shouldn't be in this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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