Gilgamesh_48 943 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) I have tried creating an audiobook type library. It points at a folder containing a number of folders with audiobooks as single mp3 files. ex, I have a folder called Dumas with files "Three Musketeers.mp3" and "Man in the Iron mask.mp3" contained it. There are many other folders including "Asimov" that contain many single mp3s of his books. I created that library as an "Audio book" type library with all metadata sources disabled because I only need to see file names and allowed it to scan (twice actually). Then when I access it by folder there are a number of folders missing including "Asimov" and "Dumas" and there are a number of listings that are not folders and many folders are listed but show as empty when browsing. I do not need or want any fancy metadata for my audiobooks all I need is to be able to browse by folder and play by file name and add files to playlists. The only features I need for my audiobooks are FF/RW/resume so if there is another library type that will work I will gladly use it. Does anyone know why I do not see all my folders in an audio book library? Or is there another library type I should be using? Thanks for any help. Edited January 22, 2019 by Gilgamesh_48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37091 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Hi there, can you please go over an example? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgamesh_48 943 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 I thought I had but: I have a library called "Audio Books" that is of type "Audio Book" It points to a directory called: "AudioBooks" In that directory there is a sub directory called "Asimov" The directory "Asimov" looks like: Directory of Y:\AudioBooks\Asimov 05/19/2018 05:58 AM <DIR> . 05/19/2018 05:58 AM <DIR> .. 03/18/2018 03:25 PM 106,610,134 Azazel.mp3 03/18/2018 03:25 PM 480,612,170 Emp 01 - I Robot.mp3 03/18/2018 03:26 PM 206,265,134 Emp 02 - Caves of Steel.mp3 03/18/2018 03:26 PM 168,133,020 Emp 03 - Naked Sun.mp3 03/18/2018 03:26 PM 198,419,048 Emp 04 - The Robots of Dawn.mp3 03/24/2016 04:06 PM 622,977,776 Emp 05 - Robots & Empire.mp3 02/03/2013 01:41 PM 110,906,201 Emp 06 - Currents of Space.mp3 07/21/2013 05:34 PM 104,181,969 Emp 07 - The Stars, Like Dust.mp3 07/21/2013 01:53 PM 200,025,234 Emp 09 - Prelude to Foundation.mp3 07/21/2013 01:15 PM 107,958,439 Emp 10 - Foundation.mp3 01/20/2013 07:25 PM 208,989,440 Emp 11 - Foundation and Empire.mp3 01/20/2013 07:16 PM 166,067,017 Emp 12 - Second Foundation.mp3 04/16/2016 01:44 PM 193,202,304 Emp 13 - Foundation's Edge.mp3 07/21/2013 01:42 PM 268,168,568 Emp 14 - Foundation And Earth.mp3 07/21/2013 02:17 PM 94,179,370 Fantastic Voyage.mp3 07/21/2013 02:05 PM 192,103,027 Foward the Foundation.mp3 07/21/2013 03:25 PM 179,578,671 Nemesis.mp3 07/21/2013 03:35 PM 172,013,505 Nightfall.mp3 07/21/2013 03:45 PM 159,300,963 Opus 200.mp3 07/21/2013 03:58 PM 171,330,769 Our Angry Earth.mp3 01/20/2013 10:16 PM 384,130,560 Robot Dreams.mp3 01/20/2013 09:56 PM 382,514,468 Robot Visions.mp3 07/21/2013 04:08 PM 149,436,082 The Greeks.mp3 07/21/2013 04:15 PM 81,665,672 The Realm of Numbers.mp3 07/21/2013 05:28 PM 151,694,420 The Return of the Black Widowers.mp3 25 File(s) 5,260,463,961 bytes 2 Dir(s) 825,739,821,056 bytes free When I browse that library by folder I do not see "Asimov" at all. See the attached image. there are many other folders that do not show up as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgamesh_48 943 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 Further info: The entire AudioBook directory looks like: Directory of Y:\AudioBooks 11/04/2018 03:17 PM <DIR> . 11/04/2018 03:17 PM <DIR> .. 05/07/2016 11:56 AM <DIR> Abbott, Edwin A 03/12/2017 12:31 PM <DIR> Adams, Douglas 05/07/2016 11:57 AM <DIR> Alfred Bester 07/20/2016 05:04 PM <DIR> Arthur C Clarke 05/19/2018 05:58 AM <DIR> Asimov 08/28/2018 10:09 AM <DIR> Banks, Iain M 04/29/2018 07:02 PM <DIR> Ben Bova 05/23/2018 08:54 AM <DIR> Blackwood 04/24/2018 12:11 AM <DIR> Bova, Ben 05/23/2018 08:55 AM <DIR> Brin, David 05/23/2018 09:01 AM <DIR> Burroughs, Edgar Rice 05/07/2016 12:03 PM <DIR> Card, Orson Scott 06/09/2018 11:16 AM <DIR> Cherryh, C J 01/13/2017 01:48 AM <DIR> Christie, Agatha 06/09/2018 10:55 AM <DIR> Clancy, Tom 03/01/2017 11:26 PM <DIR> Clarke, Arthur C 07/20/2016 05:08 PM <DIR> Clifford Simak 09/09/2017 09:21 AM <DIR> Clive Cussler 03/12/2017 12:15 PM <DIR> Cornwell, Patricia 05/25/2018 09:48 AM <DIR> Crichton, Michael 07/21/2016 04:20 AM <DIR> Cryptonomicon 06/05/2016 09:21 PM <DIR> CSk 06/05/2016 09:06 PM <DIR> Dean Koontz 06/05/2016 09:21 PM <DIR> Douglas Adams 11/04/2018 03:25 PM <DIR> Dragonriders of Pern 08/29/2018 11:55 AM <DIR> Dresden Files 06/05/2016 09:09 PM <DIR> Dumas 06/05/2016 09:22 PM <DIR> Harry Harrison 06/05/2016 09:26 PM <DIR> Harry Potter 06/09/2018 10:20 AM <DIR> Iain Banks 06/05/2016 09:32 PM <DIR> James Bond 03/21/2017 04:48 PM <DIR> James Michener 08/29/2018 01:27 PM <DIR> Jim Butcher 08/29/2018 02:49 PM <DIR> John Grisham 07/20/2016 10:52 PM <DIR> John Varley 03/12/2017 10:13 PM <DIR> JRR Tolkien 06/05/2016 09:38 PM <DIR> L Ron Hubbard 05/02/2018 09:58 PM <DIR> L-Vox 08/28/2018 03:44 PM <DIR> Larry Niven 01/13/2017 02:45 AM <DIR> LeGuin, Ursula K 01/13/2017 01:57 AM <DIR> Lewis, C S 05/02/2018 09:38 PM <DIR> Lovecraft H P 03/21/2017 04:52 PM <DIR> Martin, George R R 01/13/2017 02:47 AM <DIR> May, Julian 08/26/2018 01:54 PM <DIR> McCaffrey, Anne 01/13/2017 02:47 AM <DIR> McCarthy, Cormac 06/05/2016 09:56 PM <DIR> Michael Crichton 05/07/2016 01:08 PM <DIR> Michener 03/12/2017 12:28 PM <DIR> Morgan, Richard 06/05/2016 09:57 PM <DIR> Nightmares & Dreamscapes 06/05/2016 09:57 PM <DIR> Orson Scott Card 08/02/2016 05:22 AM <DIR> Orwell, Gearge 06/05/2016 10:01 PM <DIR> Patricia Cornwell 06/08/2018 01:07 PM <DIR> Piers Anthony 03/12/2017 12:28 PM <DIR> Pohl, Frederik 08/05/2016 02:36 PM <DIR> Pournelle, Jerry 01/13/2017 01:57 AM <DIR> Pullman, Philip 05/02/2018 10:10 PM <DIR> Radio 06/05/2016 10:02 PM <DIR> Ray Bradbury 06/09/2018 10:31 AM <DIR> Riddle-Master Series 11/04/2018 02:59 PM <DIR> Robert A Heinlein 10/09/2016 12:19 PM <DIR> Scalzi, John 10/09/2016 11:12 AM <DIR> Shakespeare, William 10/09/2016 11:12 AM <DIR> Shelly 06/08/2018 03:32 PM <DIR> Sherlock Holmes The Definitive Collection 06/05/2016 10:13 PM <DIR> Sidney Sheldon 07/12/2016 08:20 AM <DIR> Simak, Clifford 03/12/2017 12:28 PM <DIR> Simmons, Dan 09/27/2016 03:51 AM <DIR> Smith, E E Doc 08/30/2018 08:59 AM <DIR> Star Wars books 08/30/2018 09:00 AM <DIR> Stephen King 01/13/2017 03:14 AM <DIR> Stephenson, Neal 08/29/2018 01:01 PM <DIR> The Whistler 02/28/2016 04:58 AM <DIR> Thomas Pynchon 01/13/2017 03:15 AM <DIR> Twain, Mark 08/29/2018 03:14 PM <DIR> Twilight 03/12/2017 12:31 PM <DIR> Verne, Jules 06/05/2016 10:21 PM <DIR> Victor Hugo 01/13/2017 03:15 AM <DIR> Vonnegut, Kurt 01/13/2017 03:16 AM <DIR> Wells, H G 08/28/2018 01:17 PM <DIR> Wheel of Time 10/09/2016 12:21 PM <DIR> Wyndham, John 06/09/2018 11:01 AM <DIR> Xanth 05 10/26/2018 02:00 PM <DIR> z-test 05/19/2018 05:17 AM <DIR> zzz_Junk 0 File(s) 8,192 bytes 87 Dir(s) 825,565,630,464 bytes free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgamesh_48 943 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 OK, I have discovered something. The folders are actually being detected but the name being used are being picked up from some, apparently random file in that directory. I have no idea how that choice is being made. I can manually rename each entry to match what it actually is but I would rather not have to do that. Also a few additional things: 1. When I create an audiobook library on one server and choose advanced options I see a LOT more options than I do when I create an audiobook library on another. 2. Even though I choose a resume minimum if 2% and a max of 100% I cannot get resume to work at all on either server. I have tried to get a resume by manually moving the file pointer to the middle of the file and playing a little bit nut I never can get the file to resume. Does resume require actually playing a file for some minimum time? 3. Can I somehow force the folder name to be displayed at least when in the folder view? Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37091 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Could be embedded titles within the audio files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgamesh_48 943 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 Could be embedded titles within the audio files. Except I know that "Emp 03" which is what "Asimov" was misidentified as, could not possibly be embedded as that name is part of a file name I created to get a grouping I want and I simply renamed the original file with that name. So it is impossible the the misidentifying is related to embedded data. However I have experimented more with the "Audio Book" file type and I have found that Emby's implementation is severely lacking. FF and RW do not work, Resume does not work. Those are imperative for my use of audiobooks so, for now, I will have to remain with Plex for my audio books. Since I have a Plex server running on my Shield TV and I do not really use my Shield for much of anything else and Plex's playback of audio files includes rudimentary FF and RW and pretty good resume and Plex's Fire TV app is OK for audio playback using Plex for audio books is a viable option. I really wanted to completely move from Plex to Emby but I guess I will have to keep both ecosystems running for now and use Emby for all my Video playback and Plex for audiobooks. It is an imperfect world. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37091 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 What do you mean by misidentified? There is no internet metadata for audio books, so how could something be misidentified? Everything you see is coming from information embedded within the tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37091 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 @@Gilgamesh_48 so everything is showing up now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgamesh_48 943 Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 @@Gilgamesh_48 so everything is showing up now? Yes! But it is still mostly mis-identified unless I manually fix it. I believe that I should see folder names when browsing by folders but the are almost all initially named for some random file withing the folder. All I need is to see the folder name when browsing by folders and then the file names when inside a folder. I do NOT have tracks at all. Each audiobook is one single mp3 file and I want to keep it that way because it is very easy for me. I still cannot get FF/RW/Resume working at all correctly and that is really about all I need but until that gets fixed I cannot, at this time, use Emby for my audiobooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8293 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Yes! But it is still mostly mis-identified unless I manually fix it. I believe that I should see folder names when browsing by folders but the are almost all initially named for some random file withing the folder. All I need is to see the folder name when browsing by folders and then the file names when inside a folder. I do NOT have tracks at all. Each audiobook is one single mp3 file and I want to keep it that way because it is very easy for me. I still cannot get FF/RW/Resume working at all correctly and that is really about all I need but until that gets fixed I cannot, at this time, use Emby for my audiobooks. So your books have no chapters? All audiobooks I have for testing each chapter is a mp3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37091 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Why do you feel that it's misidentified? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8293 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Why do you feel that it's misidentified? Pretty sure this is just like the other topic embedded metadata vs folder name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgamesh_48 943 Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 Why do you feel that it's misidentified? It has NO metadata calling it "EMP -13" because I simply renamed the file after I created it and the filename is the ONLY place EMP - 13" appears. That folder is named in Emby "EMP - 13" while the actual folder is called "Asimov." When browsing by folder I should see "Asimov" NOT "EMP - 13." Under Asimov I have a number of files including one each from "EMP - 01" to "EMP - 18" and all I need to see after I enter "Asimov" is a list of the files and have the ability to play them one at a time or add them to a play list then to be able to play the playlist with full play controls. Also "Play" pressed on a folder should play the contained files in order and have full playback control. So your books have no chapters? All audiobooks I have for testing each chapter is a mp3. I have over the years used Mp3Joiner to join the small so called "chapter" files (although they rarely actually relate to real book chapters) into one mp3 file that contains the entire book. Currently I have something over 250 such files and I can only recreate about 50 of them as I lost a huge number of old tapes in a fire about 8 years ago. I just want to play those files by folder/file name and use FF/RW/resume. I do not care at all if the library is called "Audiobooks" or "Music" or "Weird MP3s owned by Crazy user." I just want the easiest and simplest interface possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37091 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 But why do you feel it was misidentified? It was named after the filename. How is that misidentification? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgamesh_48 943 Posted January 26, 2019 Author Share Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) But why do you feel it was misidentified? It was named after the filename. How is that misidentification? The FOLDER is named "Asimov" in the file system but Emby named it "Emp - 13" that is wrong and the very definition of "misidentified." Just because ONE file in a folder is named in some way is no excuse for Emby to name the folder that way. "Emp - 13" is just one of many files in that folder and naming the folder after it is VERY wrong. Edited January 26, 2019 by Gilgamesh_48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37091 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Naming the audio file after the file name is wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgamesh_48 943 Posted January 26, 2019 Author Share Posted January 26, 2019 Naming the audio file after the file name is wrong? It is NOT naming the file after the file name it is naming the folder after one of the files in the folder. Do you not see the difference??? Again: folder does not equal file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tang! 3 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 It is NOT naming the file after the file name it is naming the folder after one of the files in the folder. Do you not see the difference??? Again: folder does not equal file. This is the same problem I was having with my tests. In my PC's file structure, the folder name is not the folder name that Emby is showing. Emby takes the name of a file within that folder, or possibly a tag from one of the files within that folder instead. As luck would have it, you've done a lot of work to join your MP3's into single large files! Well done in cleaning up your files on your PC! It should make things easier to figure out. I still have way too many folders with multiple files, and I found that not only did Emby take a random name, but also the cover art. No idea why. But I agree, Emby should take a folder name, and use that to name it's folders. Not metadata. Following a file structure will make things easier for the user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chyron 221 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) It is NOT naming the file after the file name it is naming the folder after one of the files in the folder. This actually is a known issue---that Folder View sorts by/names by embedded file metadata by default rather than by folder name by default. However, you can mitigate or correct this in Emby by going down through your audiobook folders in the Metadata Manager and fixing each one. I actually find it useful that it displays the tagged Author and Album Name rather than the Folder Name. I'm not saying that it should or that it makes sense to, but merely that it's convenient for me that it does. I do agree that "Sort by Folder" should actually sort by folder, perhaps by defaulting to insert the folder name in a folder's Title Sort field. And I could accept that changing a folder's default Title from the folder's name to maybe an artist or album name should maybe be on me to fix instead of it doing this automatically. As luck would have it, you've done a lot of work to join your MP3's into single large files! Well done in cleaning up your files on your PC! It should make things easier to figure out. I still have way too many folders with multiple files, and I found that not only did Emby take a random name, but also the cover art. I don't see why joining chapters together into single files is preferable over having chapter-split albums. About the only advantage would be that the seek bar and the playback timer would show the amount of the whole book read rather than a single chapter. Also, I'm not saying there isn't an argument for Emby to stop automatically using album/embedded art when no folder.ext file exists, but I actually like that it does. In my audiobook library, some of my artist folders have image files, and some don't. I prefer it deciding to use another image it found deeper down rather than be blank. Edited February 8, 2019 by chyron8472 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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