CharleyVarrick 283 Posted October 23, 2018 Posted October 23, 2018 I am a daily user of XMediaRecode to compress video files, and also convert all non-mp4 to mp4. The eta for a big job (ie: a whole season of a tv show) is usually close to actual running time, seldom faster. What are the recommended spec/architecture for a pc that would mostly do this type of work, strongly hoping for WAY faster time to get it done?
mastrmind11 722 Posted October 23, 2018 Posted October 23, 2018 I am a daily user of XMediaRecode to compress video files, and also convert all non-mp4 to mp4. The eta for a big job (ie: a whole season of a tv show) is usually close to actual running time, seldom faster. What are the recommended spec/architecture for a pc that would mostly do this type of work, strongly hoping for WAY faster time to get it done? The beastliest CPU you can afford, and a nice fast SSD (or raid array of spinners).
Guest asrequested Posted October 23, 2018 Posted October 23, 2018 I don't know about that app, but using Handrake, using the GPU (quick sync) of my i7 7700k it's considerably faster than my Threadripper. Almost twice the speed. But you are tied to the GPUs algorithm. Very little adjustments can be made. I dare say that most people won't notice a difference, though.
CharleyVarrick 283 Posted October 23, 2018 Author Posted October 23, 2018 But you are tied to the GPUs algorithm. GPU as in graphic card, as in not relying just on cpu and onboard graphic? What about memory, is it solicited at all?
Guest asrequested Posted October 23, 2018 Posted October 23, 2018 Yes, GPU as in graphics card. Your easiest upgrade would probably be to get a GTX 1050 or 1060. Then use cuda to transcode. You won't need to buy extra memory. It'll use it's own. I just ordered a used EVGA GTX 1060 with 6GB of memory, on eBay for $176. Comes with guarantee.
CharleyVarrick 283 Posted October 24, 2018 Author Posted October 24, 2018 I already have a dedicated video card, but I don't know what "use cuda to transcode" means.
CharleyVarrick 283 Posted October 24, 2018 Author Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti Probably not as capable as the one you suggested, but as I'm not a gamer, I thought it would be more than enough for displaying video. I'm wondering if its used at all when transcoding, as I always thought it was all cpu and/or memory. Edited October 24, 2018 by jlr19
CharleyVarrick 283 Posted October 24, 2018 Author Posted October 24, 2018 The computer is a Dell XPS-something, about 10 yrs old. it was a beast back then with its mighty i7-2600@3.40Ghz and 12gb of ram (up-gradable to 64). I've done a million and a half things with it, but I've come to realize its better days are done for.
Guest asrequested Posted October 24, 2018 Posted October 24, 2018 You aren't going to get much more out of that. You need to upgrade if you want to do more.
CharleyVarrick 283 Posted October 31, 2018 Author Posted October 31, 2018 Agreed! I need to replace it all together. Hey we're talking computer 0001 at this house, now... I have seen you give high praise to AMD's Ryzen, while I've always been on Intel's bandwagon (and recently 7th and 8th gen are really kicking the bee's nest, IMO). In your opinion, are they similar or else?
Guest asrequested Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 Well the big difference is with the Ryzens, you're talking about software decoding/encoding. With the Intel stuff, it's hardware decoding/encoding. If quick sync for Intel is fully implemented, it is much much better than anything the Ryzens can do. But that's the problem. Getting ffmpeg to work well with quick sync. Presently, it works with some but not with others. Using CPU (Ryzen), it always works well, with all formats. Different GPUs will have different capabilities, with differing results (speed). CPU transcoding is solid. This is why I built with a Ryzen Threadripper. Nothing slows it down. Even 4k stuff.
Latchmor 584 Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 Hi, I use Xmedia Recode too. If this is any use, I have an i5-8600 and I've just converted a 1 hr 30 mins MKV (MPEG-2) to MP4 using the 'MPEG-4 AVC / H.264 (Intel Quick Sync)' profile in Xmedia and it took 3 mins 20 secs. 1
CharleyVarrick 283 Posted October 31, 2018 Author Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) Need to decipher the actual plus for me between i5 ori7, and between 7th and 8 th gen. The easy answer is i7-8th gen, but what's less obvious is choosing between i5-8gen and i7-7gen. Edited October 31, 2018 by jlr19
Guest asrequested Posted October 31, 2018 Posted October 31, 2018 Need to decipher the actual plus for me between i5 ori7, and between 7th and 8 th gen. The easy answer is i7-8th gen, but what's less obvious is choosing between i5-8gen and i7-7gen. If you're intending to use HWA, then the CPU isn't much of a consideration. What GPU do they have, is what you should look at. The UHD630 would be the best Intel choice.
CharleyVarrick 283 Posted November 3, 2018 Author Posted November 3, 2018 Waiting to hear back from an estimate request from my fav computer store for a custom-built desktop. I'll post his suggested parts list later, if some of you could lay an eye on it and once more offer your invaluable opinion(s), that would be much appreciated.
CharleyVarrick 283 Posted November 3, 2018 Author Posted November 3, 2018 Hi, I use Xmedia Recode too. If this is any use, I have an i5-8600 and I've just converted a 1 hr 30 mins MKV (MPEG-2) to MP4 using the 'MPEG-4 AVC / H.264 (Intel Quick Sync)' profile in Xmedia and it took 3 mins 20 secs. Wow, I am drooling at these kinds of job ETA. About this MPEG-4 AVC / H.264 (Intel Quick Sync) profile you mention, mine's the same as yours but doesn't say (Intel Quick Sync). I guess its default, I don't recall ever playing with it.
CharleyVarrick 283 Posted November 3, 2018 Author Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) I'll post his suggested parts list later, if some of you could lay an eye on it and once more offer your invaluable opinion(s), that would be much appreciated. Just received the quote. CPU: Intel Core i7 8700K @ 500$ fan: CM Hyper T4 @ 33$ MB: ASUS TUF H370 PRO @185$ memory: Crucial 16GB (2x8) 2400MHZ DDR4 MZ-V7E250BW @185$ video: Zotax GTX1070Ti 8GB @550$ ssd: Samsung 250GB M.2 NvMe @135$ case: Coolermaster MB500 @110$ psu: EVGA 750W G2 @140$ Please note prices are in Canadian$ If you see anything in there you have an opinion about (good or bad), by all means... Edited November 3, 2018 by jlr19
Guest asrequested Posted November 3, 2018 Posted November 3, 2018 Just received the quote. CPU: Intel Core i7 8700K @ 500$ fan: CM Hyper T4 @ 33$ MB: ASUS TUF H370 PRO @185$ memory: Crucial 16GB (2x8) 2400MHZ DDR4 MZ-V7E250BW @185$ video: Zotax GTX1070Ti 8GB @550$ ssd: Samsung 250GB M.2 NvMe @135$ case: Coolermaster MB500 @110$ psu: EVGA 750W G2 @140$ Please note prices are in Canadian$ If you see anything in there you have an opinion about (good or bad), by all means... That GTX 1070Ti will stop you using the Intel GPU. For HWA with this kind of software, it's one or the other. My suggestion is leave out the Nvidia GPU (it can be added later, if needed), and just use the iGPU. I also never use ASUS motherboards. Everyone of them I've tried, has failed. But, as you are having this built, they should give you a warranty on the parts. I always use Gigabyte. As for the rest, very similar to my own. I don't see any storage drives in that list. Best to have a couple of those, to work from. 1
CharleyVarrick 283 Posted November 3, 2018 Author Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) Thanks for the advice, and yes, I already have the storage drives and a burner too. Removing that video card just brought me back over budget, instead of obscenely over budget. Edited November 4, 2018 by jlr19
CharleyVarrick 283 Posted November 3, 2018 Author Posted November 3, 2018 That GTX 1070Ti will stop you using the Intel GPU. For HWA with this kind of software, it's one or the other. Can you elaborate on this, or point me to a more detailed explanation?
Guest asrequested Posted November 3, 2018 Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) Can you elaborate on this, or point me to a more detailed explanation? To activate the iGPU, you have to connect your display directly to the motherboard. The BIOS reads that, and enables the GPU. If you use an external GPU, the BIOS will disable the iGPU. For instance, I use DVDfab. I have both an iGPU and an Nvidia GPU. DVDfab sees both, but tells me, this... And I can tell you, that between the GTX 1050 and the iGPU HD 630, the iGPU is much faster at transcoding. Edited November 3, 2018 by Doofus 1
CharleyVarrick 283 Posted November 4, 2018 Author Posted November 4, 2018 Interesting! When DVDfab suggest you to switch to onboard graphic, do they literally mean unplug your monitor's data cable from the gtx 1050 and plug it to the m/bd? Or can you more simply just select between those 2 from DVDfab's preference menu?
Guest asrequested Posted November 4, 2018 Posted November 4, 2018 I would probably have to remove the GPU from the computer. Some boards will let you select in the BIOS.
CharleyVarrick 283 Posted November 13, 2018 Author Posted November 13, 2018 I just done a few test runs with XmediaRecode on the shiny new toy and I'm thrilled to notice process time down by 90% or more! What used to require 45 mins to process now barely needs 4. Considering the huge chunk I saved by laying off the vid card, I then added a WDC Blue 1TB SSD as acting "D\My Document" drive. Thanks for all the help.
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