Hitsville 37 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) Hey guys. I just decided to try things out again with Emby after a year or two back on Plex. Generally, I'm loving it and unlike Plex you have some beautiful clients. I have an ATV 4K and a Shield. The shield is my preferred device though as I'm all about Remuxes with non Apple friendly DTS (and generally high bit rate). I have encountered one issue though with some HDR content. After trial and error, I have managed to get HDR working after I realized the files where transcoding until I upped the maximum allowed bitrate. But here's the thing... Setting to the maximum 100Mbits/sec almost every file direct plays and gives HDR. So whats with the auto setting? Those same files in auto cause a huge amount of those files to transcode, so losing HDR. The obvious solution is to keep it set at 100Mbits/sec. BUT.... there are some files that clearly have higher bitrates than that. Baywatch for one will not (with any setting) direct play so HDR is gone and "stats for nerds" tells me that the bitrate is too high to direct play. So is there some hard limit in the auto setting that's actually below 100Mbits/s? Either way, could we have the 100Mbits/s increased to cater for such files? EDIT. Oh actually looking again at stats or nerds it's saying Direct play error. It is, however, reporting the bitrate at 110Mbps although according to MediaInfo the bitrate is generally lower than the majority of my other 4K Remuxes. Anyway here's the media info just in case anyone spots anything out of the ordinary with this particular file. Sorry I did try attaching but couldn't. General Unique ID : 220047576290248643913226901141572761638 (0xA58B9F239590F65E9D3CAEF1C6173826) Complete name : F:\ServerFolders\4K Movie Remuxes\Baywatch (2017)\Baywatch (2017) - Remux-2160p - x265 TrueHD.mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 4 / Version 2 File size : 46.6 GiB Duration : 2 h 1 min Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 54.9 Mb/s Movie name : Baywatch 4K Encoded date : UTC 2017-11-01 02:09:18 Writing application : mkvmerge v17.0.0 ('Be Ur Friend') 64-bit Writing library : libebml v1.3.5 + libmatroska v1.4.8 Video ID : 1 Format : HEVC Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Commercial name : HDR10 Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC Duration : 2 h 1 min Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2) Bit depth : 10 bits Default : Yes Forced : No Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.2020 Transfer characteristics : PQ Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant Mastering display color primaries : Display P3 Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0000 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2 Maximum Content Light Level : 1000 cd/m2 Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 386 cd/m2 Audio #1 ID : 2 Format : TrueHD Format profile : TrueHD+Atmos / TrueHD Codec ID : A_TRUEHD Bit rate mode : Variable Maximum bit rate : 7 380 kb/s Channel(s) : Object Based / 8 channels Channel positions : Object Based / Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: L R, LFE Sampling rate : / 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 1 200.000 FPS (40 SPF) Compression mode : Lossless Title : TrueHD Atmos 7.1 Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Audio #2 ID : 3 Format : AC-3 Format/Info : Audio Coding 3 Codec ID : A_AC3 Duration : 2 h 1 min Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 640 kb/s Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF) Bit depth : 16 bits Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 556 MiB (1%) Title : AC3 5.1 Language : English Service kind : Complete Main Default : No Forced : No Text #1 ID : 4 Format : PGS Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs Title : English (Forced Only) Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Text #2 ID : 5 Format : PGS Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs Title : English Language : English Default : No Forced : No Text #3 ID : 6 Format : PGS Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs Title : English (SDH) Language : English Default : No Forced : No Text #4 ID : 7 Format : PGS Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs Title : French Language : French Default : No Forced : No Text #5 ID : 8 Format : PGS Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs Title : Spanish (Latin American) Language : Spanish Default : No Forced : No Text #6 ID : 9 Format : PGS Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs Title : Portuguese (Brazilian) Language : Portuguese Default : No Forced : No Menu 00:00:00.000 : en:00:00:00.000 00:08:55.535 : en:00:08:55.535 00:16:54.347 : en:00:16:54.347 00:21:01.802 : en:00:21:01.802 00:29:40.946 : en:00:29:40.946 00:38:03.615 : en:00:38:03.615 00:44:55.067 : en:00:44:55.067 00:50:33.447 : en:00:50:33.447 01:01:29.936 : en:01:01:29.936 01:11:48.804 : en:01:11:48.804 01:19:44.655 : en:01:19:44.655 01:29:00.794 : en:01:29:00.794 01:35:23.176 : en:01:35:23.176 01:44:31.640 : en:01:44:31.640 01:50:07.267 : en:01:50:07.267 01:54:52.427 : en:01:54:52.427 Edited June 14, 2018 by Hitsville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37167 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Hi, direct play error generally means the app had some kind of problem decoding the video file, and therefore switched to transcoding to ensure successful playback. @@ebr may be able to provide more info. Thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14947 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Luke is correct, it tried to play it directly and failed so fell back to remuxing/transcoding it so it would play. In short, it has nothing to do with the bitrate. however, reporting the bitrate at 110Mbps Are you sure about that? What, exactly, does the label in front of that 110 number say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyp3rD 10 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 I confirm, I had the same problem yesterday and I just change the speed option from auto to 100Mbits and it's work. Report 115Mbits in reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitsville 37 Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 Wow thanks for all the speedy responses. Coming back from Plex I'm not used to it. Luke is correct, it tried to play it directly and failed so fell back to remuxing/transcoding it so it would play. In short, it has nothing to do with the bitrate. Are you sure about that? What, exactly, does the label in front of that 110 number say? Yeah was kinda wondering myself now I may have misread/misunderstood something. In stats for nerds its saying under streaming info.. Bitrate 110.00Mbps Max bitrate setting 110Mbps In original Media Info it shows the file as 54.91 Mbps. More curious is the fact I am also setting up Emby on an online dedi. All my local media is mirrored to Google. Having got that same file scanned into Emby on the remote dedi the file plays perfectly, so I would have just put it down to the local file being corrupted in some way. However the local file has no issues in MrMC. Either way, it's no big deal really. So far it's just a single file. I am still curious though regarding the other files that force transcodes in auto but are happy with the max bitrate at 100 M/bps (as I mentioned earlier it's not every file. I confirm, I had the same problem yesterday and I just change the speed option from auto to 100Mbits and it's work. Report 115Mbits in reading. I'm glad you managed to reproduce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution ebr 14947 Posted June 14, 2018 Solution Share Posted June 14, 2018 On the Shield, the auto setting on a local network will default to 80Mb/s. I didn't feel we could assume bandwidth for 100 but you can always raise it manually. On other devices, we assume lower defaults according to their specs (between 21 and 30Mb/s) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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