Erik 120 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Hi, I currently have 2 Roku Ultra's attached to TVs. Want to add a new TV for a treadmill and while looking i saw a Roku TV that fit the location, however, i have no experience Roku being built in. If someone has one, how does the built in Roku TV compare to an additional box? is it like an Ultra in the TV or just a basic streaming stick in regards to performance and any other thoughts? Thanks, Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdiesel 1114 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 It doesn't list spec on the Roku TV hardware in this wiki and it is possible that it varies between models of TV. If I had to guess though I would say it is closer to a streaming stick than an Ultra. Need to cut cost where ever possible on things like TVs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik 120 Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 Ya, i couldn't find any specs and even Roku's website is vague. I'm thinking, just get a TV and Roku separately so at least i know what I'm getting. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldonnis 148 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 I picked up a TCL 55" not long ago as a bedroom television and have been pretty happy with it (last year's model, not the newest ones). The biggest gripe I have is that the remote is a bit of a pain if you use the built-in tuner with an OTA antenna or have cable without a STB, since it doesn't have numbers on it to go to channels directly. Instead, you have to set up channel favourites...just picture using your Roku remote as a television remote (it does have a mute button, at least). Thankfully, I do have STBs here (condo, so we have a bulk cable contract) and it's not a big problem for me for now, but given the reliability of our cable, I was hoping to add an antenna to the mix eventually. Another downside is audio. Since the television only has ARC and optical audio outputs, you're limited as to what you can pass through due to bandwidth limitations. It's not a huge problem for me since Roku doesn't support TrueHD/DTS-MA audio anyway, but it's a downside if you use internal apps a lot (to be fair, streaming services use EAC3 anyway, so it doesn't matter outside of Emby/Plex/local streaming of those lossless codecs). It does decode AC3/EAC3 natively, though, so there's that. If I really want passthrough of TrueHD/DTS-MA, I would probably pick up a Shield instead since no Roku really supports that. Other than that stuff, it's been quite nice performance-wise. I've had no issues with UHD playback or handshaking, and even using it as a computer monitor has been a good experience. I previously had a 1080p set with a Roku 3 and this television's interface is clearly faster. Codec support is pretty much the same as a standalone 4k Roku except this set supports Dolby Vision as well and can decode AC3/EAC3 natively. Oh, one other oddity - some of the more advanced settings can only be accessed via the mobile app (things like gamma, notably). It's nice to have it separate like that when calibrating, but if you want to tweak the white point a bit, it's a bit strange to have to go for the phone/tablet. The major stuff other than gamma is easily adjustable via the television menus, though, and you don't often modify the other settings outside of calibration in my experience so it's not really a downside...just different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speechles 1919 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) Codec support is pretty much the same as a standalone 4k Roku except this set supports Dolby Vision as well and can decode AC3/EAC3 natively. You forgot one of the bigger reasons to get a rokuTV vs rokuSTB. RokuTV can have direct play back of mpeg-ts mpeg2/mpeg1 streams because the TV manufacturer covers these costs. OTA TV requires them. https://forums.roku.com/viewtopic.php?t=114433 - the licensing requirement via patent is no longer enforceable either, rokuSTB may get these eventually. Edited May 9, 2018 by speechles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldonnis 148 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 You forgot one of the bigger reasons to get a rokuTV vs rokuSTB. RokuTV can have direct play back of mpeg-ts mpeg2/mpeg1 streams because the TV manufacturer covers these costs. OTA TV requires them. https://forums.roku.com/viewtopic.php?t=114433 - the licensing requirement via patent is no longer enforceable either, rokuSTB may get these eventually. Ah, yeah, forgot about that. This thing supposedly has some built-in DVR functionality too if you use the OTA input and hook up some storage to the USB, but I haven't tried it nor heard of anyone using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speechles 1919 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Ah, yeah, forgot about that. This thing supposedly has some built-in DVR functionality too if you use the OTA input and hook up some storage to the USB, but I haven't tried it nor heard of anyone using it. https://support.roku.com/article/115005649508-how-to-pause-live-television-on-your-roku-tv- It is a pause/rewind buffer for liveTV that allows catch-up. To get DVR, well, emby does that... lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldonnis 148 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 https://support.roku.com/article/115005649508-how-to-pause-live-television-on-your-roku-tv- It is a pause/rewind buffer for liveTV that allows catch-up. To get DVR, well, emby does that... lol Makes sense, and I never looked into it so I didn't know it was that limited. One of these days, I'll actually read manuals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik 120 Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 Thanks everyone. No way i would have found out those kind of details elsewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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