Tumba 1 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Dear community, I read a couple of threads about the issue of movie & tv ratings in Emby & Kodi. However I didn´t got the point how to handle it. Background: If you have a bunch of movies, you need to sort them somehow. The best thing for this are smart playlists, which are not available in Emby unfortunately, but in Kodi. My question is now: Is Emby collecting ratings for movies from IMDb and for tv shows from TVDB including rate & votes? If yes: How can I get these information into my Kodi to work with smart playlists? Most important are IMDb ratings + votes for movies. Ratings alone give not enough information to filter unpolular movies (e.g. 7.5 rate 50 votes). This is only possible in combination with votes (6.5 rate 5.000 votes)... If not: Can I get these information from other Kodi-Addons to work with smart playlists of Emby content? Thanks in advance Tumba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37065 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Hi, we query for ratings using the metadata providers that we support - MovieDb, Tvdb, and Omdb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumba 1 Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 Ok that means you´re collecting IMDb ratings + votes or not? I don´t know all the mentioned services However: How can I use these information in Kodi? Because in default the votes are not included in the Kodi library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37065 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 We don't currently collect votes. We collect ratings from MovieDb, Tvdb, and Omdb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumba 1 Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 Is it possible to add such information from another Kodi-Addon? Normally Kodi adds no further information to the library, which is organized by Emby Addon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelblue05 4130 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 No. Kodi is treated as a player only. No information provided by Kodi can be added to emby. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumba 1 Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 Thanks for your answers! You may have recognized the limitations of Emby Server and Kodi Addon in this thread. In times of 10tb HDD e.g. in NAS the contents are increasing and the need for smart playlists and appropriate filter categories are rising. Kodi itself brings this features (smart playlists to filter e.g. top movies with rating+votes). My hope was to get this advantages combined with the strengths of a centralized Emby Server. If you see in the near future the possibility to bring smart playlists and such rating-features together included into Emby itself (or combined with Kodi), this would significantly improve the handling of larger content volumes and therefore this would increase the user experience. However thanks for your support! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelblue05 4130 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) Smart playlists are already supported but we don't have votes count so you can't use that one filter but the rest should work. I've created plenty of smart playlists and had no problem getting what I wanted without the need for votes to filter my content. To get your content, use Tags is {Emby library name} in combination with other filters. If the server ever provides that information I will add it, but until then.... Edited April 1, 2018 by Angelblue05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djhifi 55 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Is it possible to add such information from another Kodi-Addon? Normally Kodi adds no further information to the library, which is organized by Emby Addon. https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=316342 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobjones 13 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=316342 That addon updates the rating and adds votes, but if Emby refreshes the movie (or I manually ask Emby to refresh) the info the addon added disappears. It reverts back to how it was before the addon ran. How do I stop Emby from doing this? Edited April 21, 2018 by jimbobjones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelblue05 4130 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 You could try to lock the metadata in emby. Somehow, emby must be updating the entry. The add-on doesn't do anything on it's own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobjones 13 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 (edited) You could try to lock the metadata in emby. Somehow, emby must be updating the entry. The add-on doesn't do anything on it's own. Yeah that doesn't work, locking metadata stops Emby's info from being updated. I locked metadata changes for a film, ran light imdb update, it updating the votes/rating. Then from the context menu I did Emby Options -> Refresh this time, and it reverted back to no rating/no votes. :/ If I don't manually refresh, it will change after a period of time anyway. This is using Emby for kodi addon version 3.0.22 Somehow Emby is refreshing the info that I am seeing, but I am not sure how to stop it. For example, Phantom Thread shows 2017 130 Minutes, when I run the IMDB update addon on it, it goes to 2017 7.7 (52,424 votes) 130 Minutes. Before long (or if I manually refresh) it goes back to 2017 130 Minutes. Edited April 22, 2018 by jimbobjones 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelblue05 4130 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 (edited) Don't refresh the item? Then it won't remove the vote. If you say it's still refreshing without you triggering it via context menu, then that's an issue with Emby. As I said, the add-on doesn't trigger anything on it's own. It's either the server sending an update or you are interacting with the metadata. Updating playstate doesn't not update the metadata. I'm not sure why lock wouldn't work. Can you first confirm that if you lock the metadata, and then don't do anything else, if it still refreshes. That would be the first step.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited April 22, 2018 by Angelblue05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobjones 13 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Don't refresh the item? Then it won't remove the vote. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Somehow some films are refreshed by Emby without me doing anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelblue05 4130 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I saw your edited post. Do you use nfos? If so, is the last date modified recent enough to explain the refresh you are seeing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobjones 13 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I saw your edited post. Do you use nfos? If so, is the last date modified recent enough to explain the refresh you are seeing? I do use NFOs , and although the rating has changed numerous times with me testing this movie Phantom Thread, the nfo date is 5th April 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelblue05 4130 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 (edited) Hmmm... Any external subtitles? Edited April 22, 2018 by Angelblue05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobjones 13 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelblue05 4130 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Ok well can you provide your kodi log and Emby log capturing when the movie gets overwritten in Kodi without you interacting with the metadata? I have no idea at this time. My content does not ever get overwritten. I only have played state updates and that doesn't change the metadata. Hopefully the logs will give us a clue where to look. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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