Luke 37093 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 @@Abobader please grant frostbyte ability to download attachments. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37093 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Maybe because it's interlaced? I'm not sure it can convert interlaced to progressive when streaming video. That's just a guess though because I don't have any other media which is interlaced like this Edit: it does the same on both my devices. Looks good on a pc though Maybe the TV's do support deinterlacing but the deinterlacer isn't very good. That would be my guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abobader 2947 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 @@Abobader please grant frostbyte ability to download attachments. thanks. Good day, He already have that, the same day we apply that rule. My best 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RafaG 16 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Hi, I think only admins have the rights for download files, normal or standard user don't. @@gsadasivan, if you want more opinions, try to share this file in other place like Google Drive, DropBox or other service. Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsadasivan 3 Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 @RafG, here is an external link from where you can download the video: https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/share/gf5ecKapysVRVyrt9h0Whmbd58ed1EeRu97rcEQeTi7 The TV is capable of de-interlacing while streaming. This problem is only with some recordings. Others play normally. One thing I have noticed is that it is always a CBS show that has a problem. @@FrostByte, yes it plays very well on PC, Dish Joey etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5051 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) Maybe the TV's do support deinterlacing but the deinterlacer isn't very good. That would be my guess. That could be it's just not very good. The tv of course does have a deinterlacer because I've watched 1080i shows, just don't have anything like that in my library to stream. The TV is capable of de-interlacing while streaming. This problem is only with some recordings. Others play normally. One thing I have noticed is that it is always a CBS show that has a problem. Thanks I've included the mediainfo if anyone is interested. Edited January 7, 2018 by FrostByte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37093 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Right, maybe the built-in deinterlacer is just not very good, or maybe for this particular file it's not detecting that it's interlaced at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsadasivan 3 Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 @@FrostByte, But look at what the Emby server thinks about the stream: Video Codec H264AVC NoProfile HighLevel 40Resolution 1920x1080Aspect ratio 16:9Anamorphic NoInterlaced YesFramerate 29.97003Bitrate 10092 kbpsBit depth 8 bitPixel format yuv420pRef frames 1NAL 0Title 1080I H264 Audio LanguageengCodec AC3Layout 5.1Channels 6 chBitrate 384 kbpsSample rate 48000 HzDefault NoTitle Eng Dolby Digital 5.1 Container mpegts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37093 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I understand, but I'm talking about the Samsung video player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsadasivan 3 Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 So, I think I may have an explanation. I three HDHomeRun devices that I use for recording. One of them is capable of outputting hardware transcoded h.264 stream. This file that I posted was recorded on that particular device, hence uses h.264 encoding. Samsung player seems to play interlaced MPEG-2 (broadcast standard) without any issues, but has a tough time if the stream has been transcoded to h.264. I have changed the transcoding preference on the HDHR device to 'none', did some snippets, seems like that solves my problem with the Samsung (well, workaround anyway). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RafaG 16 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Hi, @@gsadasivan, for your info, I check your file in my Samsung D TV, in other TVs via chromecast and Fire TV and in my computer and I don't see any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5051 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) So, I think I may have an explanation. I three HDHomeRun devices that I use for recording. One of them is capable of outputting hardware transcoded h.264 stream. This file that I posted was recorded on that particular device, hence uses h.264 encoding. Samsung player seems to play interlaced MPEG-2 (broadcast standard) without any issues, but has a tough time if the stream has been transcoded to h.264. I have changed the transcoding preference on the HDHR device to 'none', did some snippets, seems like that solves my problem with the Samsung (well, workaround anyway). I think this may be correct. I've found several articles online saying about the same thing where people are seeing choppiness with their Samsung and H264 interlaced video Here are a couple of the links I found Googling "Samsung interlaced h264" if you wish to see https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/372098-Samsung-TV-1080-50i-h-264-file-playback-interlaced-combing-issue https://old.kdenlive.org/forum/problems-viewing-interlaced-h264-kdenlive-encoded-1080i-video-projects-samsung-led-tv Edited January 7, 2018 by FrostByte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37093 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I'm not so sure about that because i think the HD Homerun transcoding also deinterlaces, at least i would think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsadasivan 3 Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 @@Luke, HDHomeRun Extend does not de-interlace. I used (by mistake) 'heavy' setting which just does h.264 encoding maintaining resolution, interlacing etc. From their http API reference: heavy: transcode to AVC with the same resolution, frame-rate, and interlacing as the original stream. For example 1080i60 -> AVC 1080i60, 720p60 -> AVC 720p60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsadasivan 3 Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 Hi, @@gsadasivan, for your info, I check your file in my Samsung D TV, in other TVs via chromecast and Fire TV and in my computer and I don't see any difference. Thanks for checking it out. I am surprised you experienced the same playback on Samsung D, Chromecast, Fire TV and computer. I just downloaded the file onto my laptop from the amazon link, it plays smoothly. Whereas on the Samsung D, the scrolling text (ticker, forget what they call that on TV) is extremely jerky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsadasivan 3 Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 I think this may be correct. I've found several articles online saying about the same thing where people are seeing choppiness with their Samsung and H264 interlaced video @@FrostByte, now we have a short example that Samsung can play with and fix the problem. It happens on my brand new M Series, which means they have had the same problem for six years now! @@Luke, can we have Samsung folks take a look at the clip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37093 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 yea but do they even still push out firmware updates for your model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RafaG 16 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 @@gsadasivan, I have just recheck again your file in my Samsung D model and I think why I didn't have any problem the first time, I'm using 1.06 emby client, my model don't have support for this container but emby server is transcoding. Sorry for this misunderstanding, in my D model without transcoding your file is jerky. Same problem. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5051 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) @@FrostByte, now we have a short example that Samsung can play with and fix the problem. It happens on my brand new M Series, which means they have had the same problem for six years now! @@Luke, can we have Samsung folks take a look at the clip? @@gsadasivan, I have just recheck again your file in my Samsung D model and I think why I didn't have any problem the first time, I'm using 1.06 emby client, my model don't have support for this container but emby server is transcoding. Sorry for this misunderstanding, in my D model without transcoding your file is jerky. Same problem. :-( If this is indeed a problem with the deinterlacer on all Samsung's maybe @Luke can make the server transcode/deinterlace these files. Emby already knows it's interlaced and H264 Edited January 8, 2018 by FrostByte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsadasivan 3 Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 yea but do they even still push out firmware updates for your model? Well, may be not for my D series, but my M is brand new. They owe it fix it in that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37093 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Does it fail to play on your M series, or does it play with interlacing artifacts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsadasivan 3 Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 It plays with interlacing artifacts, i.e. jerky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37093 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Only thing we can really do is force a full transcode on the server, but that would have to be with an option because even despite interlacing, most people still want to avoid transcoding when possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5051 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I thought it was just H264 compressed interlaced videos which caused the issue, not all interlaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsadasivan 3 Posted January 13, 2018 Author Share Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) @@FrostByte, yes, that is correct. MPEG-2 interlaced files play just fine. Edited January 13, 2018 by gsadasivan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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