XiaoKe 3 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I'm looking at building an Emby server, I might convert it into an HTPC later but for now I'm just looking at doing a server. I'm not buying extra drives at the moment, I have an external drive I'll be using until I buy more internal drives. Here's what I have so far on PC Part Picker, thoughts? Recommendations? [PCPartPicker part list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9TYg9W) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9TYg9W/by_merchant/) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VtFXsY/amd-ryzen-5-1500x-35ghz-quad-core-processor-yd150xbbaebox) | $169.99 @ SuperBiiz **CPU Cooler** | [Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hmtCmG/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2) | $24.89 @ OutletPC **Motherboard** | [Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2pnG3C/gigabyte-ga-ab350-gaming-3-atx-am4-motherboard-ga-ab350-gaming-3) | $81.98 @ Newegg **Memory** | [G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xjp323/gskill-memory-f42400c15d8gvr) | $75.88 @ OutletPC **Storage** | [samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3kL7YJ/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam) | $89.99 @ B&H **Video Card** | [EVGA - GeForce 8400 GS 1GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7mckcf/evga-video-card-01gp31302lr) | $34.88 @ OutletPC **Case** | [NZXT - Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wWQypg/nzxt-case-s210002) | $46.35 @ OutletPC **Power Supply** | [EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/g63RsY/evga-power-supply-120g10650xr) | $89.89 @ OutletPC **Operating System** | [Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wtgPxr/microsoft-os-kw900140) | $89.89 @ OutletPC | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | Total (before mail-in rebates) | $758.74 | Mail-in rebates | -$55.00 | **Total** | **$703.74** | Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2017-09-07 22:25 EDT-0400 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I'd suggest not getting a GPU card and the Ryzen, and buy an i5 7600 https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-7600K-Desktop-Processors-BX80677I57600K/dp/B01MRRPPQS/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1504845491&sr=1-5&keywords=intel+core+i5 With maybe this motherboard. https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GA-Z270XP-SLI-LGA1151-Intel-Motherboard/dp/B01N1T2WXL/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1504845635&sr=8-1&keywords=gigabyte+z270 It'll give you much more potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiaoKe 3 Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 So it looks like it's about the same price point so what would be the benefit of going that route as opposed to Ryzen? If we're going by Pass Mark the i5 is slightly lower, I'm totally open to suggestions I'd just like to understand the benefits and cons of either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcrdev 251 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 So it looks like it's about the same price point so what would be the benefit of going that route as opposed to Ryzen? If we're going by Pass Mark the i5 is slightly lower, I'm totally open to suggestions I'd just like to understand the benefits and cons of either way. The benefit will come from the integrated graphics - that video card is ancient and doesn't support hw acceleration via vaapi or nvenc. With the i7 you can use QuckSync and/or vaapi. Hardware acceleration will put a lot less strain on the cpu when transcoding allowing for more simultaneous streams or other background tasks. Honestly that GPU isn't worth $35 - it's absolute rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiaoKe 3 Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 Ok so Ryzen is really only worth it if you are going to be also getting a nice graphics card to go with it then? So really an i5 or i7 with integrated graphics is just going to perform better overall for the money due to the lack of integrated graphics with the Ryzen, is that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcrdev 251 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Ok so Ryzen is really only worth it if you are going to be also getting a nice graphics card to go with it then? So really an i5 or i7 with integrated graphics is just going to perform better overall for the money due to the lack of integrated graphics with the Ryzen, is that right? Where Emby is concerned, yes! - Ryzen for general purpose has a better price/performance ratio. It does indeed all boil down to the integrated graphics; you could ofsourse wait for the Ryzen based raven ridge apus though. If going the Intel route, i'd suggest saving yourself a few bucks and going Skylake instead - it's better supported by QuickSync and slightly cheaper. Most of the improvements in Kaby Lake over Skylake boil down to power consumption and not performance; it's basically the same chip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I have an i7 6700k and an i7 7700k. When you use the Z270 chipset with the HD 630, it far out performs the HD 530. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBers 6771 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Trying to achieve the fastest transcode (remux) shouldn't be the defining factor for a new build, unless you're aiming to provide remote playback. Priority should be with the media and it's compatibility with the end client. If your media isn't compatible, then make it compatible by re-encoding it. Then you will not have to transcode. Just my thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) But it's a good idea to be prepared for transcoding. Even though I direct play everything, I transcode my TV recordings. Edited September 8, 2017 by Doofus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBers 6771 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 But it's a good idea to be prepared for transcoding. Even though I direct play everything, I transcode my TV recordings. For you maybe, but possibly not the OP. Why do you (have to) transcode your TV recordings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiaoKe 3 Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 Thanks for all the advice guys! I'll look into all your recommendations so I can get going on this build . I'm mostly going to be using it at home using a Chromecast to stream it to my TV but I'll also be wanting to access it remotely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 For you maybe, but possibly not the OP. Why do you (have to) transcode your TV recordings? I don't have to, but I prefer it. Especially for MPEG2, they are unnecessarily large, and the codec is crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Thanks for all the advice guys! I'll look into all your recommendations so I can get going on this build . I'm mostly going to be using it at home using a Chromecast to stream it to my TV but I'll also be wanting to access it remotely. Be sure to post pics in the 'show off your rig' thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XiaoKe 3 Posted September 10, 2017 Author Share Posted September 10, 2017 Definitely will, once it's all together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maegibbons 1267 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 For you maybe, but possibly not the OP. Why do you (have to) transcode your TV recordings? So that they are ready to Direct play to your clients For me, generally speaking you have to transcode either on record or playback. So it is best to have the grunt so you can choose whether you frontend or backend that process. Baecause of limitations in emby record-transcode at the moment, I am actually now doing it in the middle with MCEBuddy and handbrake. This has the benefit of comskip in the mix as well. So I record in emby to .ts MCEBuddy then picks up and transcodes to MKV with comskip. Can then direct play to F/ATV clients etc The processor has enough headroom for all the above and for external players like phones to transcode on demand. Krs Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maegibbons 1267 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 At the OP For the little extra get Windows 10 Pro as well Krs Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdiesel 1114 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I might be the minority but I still think that CPU horsepower is the way to go over GPU-acceleration unless your are limited to a NAS or have tight energy constraints. Software transcoding has better visual quality and has better compatibility at this point in time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I might be the minority but I still think that CPU horsepower is the way to go over GPU-acceleration unless your are limited to a NAS or have tight energy constraints. Software transcoding has better visual quality and has better compatibility at this point in time. Yup! I now agree with you. Live TV HWA still isn't implemented, I thought it was. And I've just been testing transcoding on playback, and it has been temperamental. For the server, I've turned it off and I'm moving toward a Threadripper. For am HTPC, HWA is excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maegibbons 1267 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) I might be the minority but I still think that CPU horsepower is the way to go over GPU-acceleration unless your are limited to a NAS or have tight energy constraints. Software transcoding has better visual quality and has better compatibility at this point in time. Yes - Totally agree. My hardware acceleration is currently turned off in Emby Krs Mark Edited September 28, 2017 by maegibbons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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