As a fallback can a new recording still be made when two episode happen to be have the same number but title has changed

[denz 426]

This has occurred few times were the guide data provider incorrectly leaves the episode number the same as the one previousely but the episode name has changed. 

 

Can emby as fallback like wmc (I think wmc uses previously shown tag) still record it if it doesn't have previously shown tag it would be also helpful if you could just click on that episode and record from the same window.

 

 

 

 

 

 <programme airingID="133095561" mediaID="21881-254686" start="20170711113000 +0000" stop="20170711124500 +0000" channel="2624">
  <title lang="en">MasterChef Australia</title>
  <sub-title lang="en">2017 - Special Souffle Immunity Challenge</sub-title>
  <desc lang="en">Having already ensured that they're at the top of their game, the 3 Top Contestants this week are aiming for a bit of Immunity by pulling off the best Souffle. But they still need a combination of cooking skills and chutzpah to get themselves into the Finals.</desc>
  <date>2009</date>
  <category lang="en">Real Life</category>
  <category lang="en">Cooking</category>
  <language lang="en">English</language>
  <icon src="http://images.icetv.com.au/0f7f-3393-588b-df8e.jpg"width="680" height="1000" />
  <country lang="en">Australia</country>
  <episode-num system="SxxExx">S09E53</episode-num>
  <episode-num system="xmltv_ns">8.52..</episode-num>
  <episode-num system="original-air-date">2017-07-11</episode-num>
  <episode-num system="thetvdb.com">series/92091</episode-num>
  <episode-num system="imdb.com">series/tt1433870</episode-num>
  <premiere />
  <subtitles type="teletext" />
  <rating system="ACMA">
   <value>PG</value>
  </rating>
 </programme>

 

 

Repeat of the above episode 

 

 <programme airingID="133123822" mediaID="21881-254686" start="20170712050000 +0000" stop="20170712060000 +0000" channel="2624">
  <title lang="en">MasterChef Australia</title>
  <sub-title lang="en">2017 - Special Souffle Immunity Challenge</sub-title>
  <desc lang="en">Having already ensured that they're at the top of their game, the 3 Top Contestants this week are aiming for a bit of Immunity by pulling off the best Souffle. But they still need a combination of cooking skills and chutzpah to get themselves into the Finals.</desc>
  <date>2009</date>
  <category lang="en">Real Life</category>
  <category lang="en">Cooking</category>
  <language lang="en">English</language>
  <icon src="http://images.icetv.com.au/0f7f-3393-588b-df8e.jpg"width="680" height="1000" />
  <country lang="en">Australia</country>
  <episode-num system="SxxExx">S09E53</episode-num>
  <episode-num system="xmltv_ns">8.52..</episode-num>
  <episode-num system="original-air-date">2009-04-27</episode-num>
  <episode-num system="thetvdb.com">series/92091</episode-num>
  <episode-num system="imdb.com">series/tt1433870</episode-num>
  <previously-shown start="2009-04-27" />
  <subtitles type="teletext" />
  <rating system="ACMA">
   <value>PG</value>
  </rating>
 </programme>

 

Episode with the same episode number

 

   <programme airingID="133177282" mediaID="21881-254968" start="20170716113000 +0000" stop="20170716130000 +0000" channel="25">
  <title lang="en">MasterChef Australia</title>
  <sub-title lang="en">2017 - Top Six Contestants Mystery Box Challenge</sub-title>
  <desc lang="en">With only six contestants left, three will find themselves in tonight's pressure test set by MasterChef Kylie Millar and someone will be going home.</desc>
  <date>2009</date>
  <category lang="en">Real Life</category>
  <category lang="en">Cooking</category>
  <language lang="en">English</language>
  <icon src="http://images.icetv.com.au/0f7f-3393-588b-df8e.jpg"width="680" height="1000" />
  <country lang="en">Australia</country>
  <episode-num system="SxxExx">S09E57</episode-num>
  <episode-num system="xmltv_ns">8.56..</episode-num>
  <episode-num system="original-air-date">2017-07-16</episode-num>
  <episode-num system="thetvdb.com">series/92091</episode-num>
  <episode-num system="imdb.com">series/tt1433870</episode-num>
  <premiere />
  <subtitles type="teletext" />
  <rating system="ACMA">
   <value>PG</value>
  </rating>
 </programme>

Edited July 11, 2017 by denz

[Luke 37084]

So are you saying these two xml's are actually different episodes?

[denz 426]

Sorry Luke I copied the wrong part of xmltv data as you can see now both episodes have the same number system but different title 

 

Different title 

  <sub-title lang="en">2017 - Special Souffle Immunity Challenge</sub-title>

  <sub-title lang="en">2017 - Pressure Test - Set By Kylie Millar</sub-title>

 

Same episode numbers

 

  <episode-num system="SxxExx">S09E53</episode-num>
  <episode-num system="xmltv_ns">8.52..</episode-num>

 

Both are new episodes

 

I just did an update of the guide and they corrected the episode number but this has happened a number of times before I rather have it record than not if the previously shown tag is empty. 

 

It is not being recorded but it should as it is a new episode it doesn't have a previously shown tag.  

[Luke 37084]

do these have a dd_progid?

[denz 426]

Have no idea what is dd_progid is

[Luke 37084]

In the xml i mean. do you see that anywhere?

[denz 426]

No such thing in the xmltv file tried searching for progid alone but no results. 

[Luke 37084]

what are the series recording options that you set? can you show a screenshot? thanks.

[denz 426]

 

They made few errors here so hopefully they will pick it up and correct it. Monday night episode at 19:30 that is a new episode but they used the same episode number so emby is not going to record it.  

 

 

 

[Luke 37084]

Ok this is because of the "Dont record episodes in my library". This compares using season and episode numbers. You can resolve this by unchecking that.

[Luke 37084]

I don't see how we can automatically handle this without causing lots of duplicated recordings for other users.

[denz 426]

It just means that I have to do more checking not ideal when you are used to wmc set up and record and never fails. I will try your suggestion the next time I see something like this.

[Luke 37084]

Well WMC doesn't have that setting to check against existing episode numbers, so I would think you could just pretend that it's not there, right?