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#61 ginjaninja OFFLINE  

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Posted 13 December 2018 - 01:48 PM

omg plex's appdata folder is 80GB vs emby's 4GB



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Posted 14 December 2018 - 01:33 PM

I'm going to keep saying this until it happens: I really hope Emby has some semblance of multi-file audiobook support in their upcoming v3.6 stable release. I can't drop Plex without it. I want to drop Plex. Please give me an excuse to drop Plex. I will give Emby all the monies going forward and as much word-of-mouth advertising as I am able, so please implement this, please.

 

I don't mean to be a jerk to the Emby devs by constantly nagging about this, but I seriously am wanting to respond to this crazy Plex UI nonsense by applying a dropkick and a raspberry to their software, but I can't yet and it's bothering me.


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Posted 14 December 2018 - 02:16 PM

not entirely true,
Plex has the option to setup scheduled tasks between a start window and a stop window

Where as Emby is limited to every xyz interval (in hours) and does not have this hard start/stop window setting as Plex does I.e for library scan you only have options for every xx hours and upon application start etc.

 

I checked into this, and you can set specific start and stop time windows for individual tasks in Emby.

 

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Posted 14 December 2018 - 03:58 PM

Thanks for diagramming that !



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Posted 14 December 2018 - 04:55 PM

I checked into this, and you can set specific start and stop time windows for individual tasks in Emby.

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gee that must of been an old post and emby has update these features since

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Posted 23 December 2018 - 01:05 AM

My family and I were driving up to my in-laws this evening, and we decided to turn on Christmas music. Well, for whatever reason, I opened Plex (for Android, v6) and found an album to listen to. When I tapped a track to start playing, it took somewhere around 15 whole seconds to start, which is and has been kind of normal for Plex for as long as I can remember. Plus it takes some time after each song to start the next one in the queue.

After that album, I switched to Emby. You know what... when I tapped a song, It immediately started playing, and time between queued tracks even seemed gapless.

I'm telling you. Night and day. The "Now Playing" page on Plex for Android is prettier than on Emby for Android, but my gosh is Emby fast. Blazingly, blisteringly fast.

Edited by chyron8472, 23 December 2018 - 01:06 AM.

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 03:29 PM

The more I poke around Emby, the more I like it.

 

For one thing, I love the responsiveness of the devs. Not long ago, I complained that, while on Emby for Android in portrait mode, the items in the "My Media (small)" section on the Home Screen didn't fit right. And you know what? Now they're fixed.

 

I installed the recent server beta (v.3.6.0.84, currently) and now I can have inline collections for Movies, TV Shows, Music, and probably Audiobooks (I don't know about the last one yet---My libraries are still being scanned after the update and that one hasn't populated yet). Inline collection settings are also independent from each other, both per library and per user.

 

Libraries now have multiple "mount points" that are configurable per user. That means I can have a single "Movies" library that points to these folders for me, this folder for my wife, and that folder for my daughter---but it's still just the one library on the backend. I don't need to have a different "Kids Movies" library anymore if I prefer not to.

 

Media playback is freaking fast. Oh my gosh, is it fast. I don't even have that great an upload speed from my house, but remote playback speed and responsiveness is all flavors of impressive.

 

Emby has been dumping buckets of nfo metadata files into my media folders. Because I told it to. But now that means if I ever have to rebuild my libraries, repopulating the (even custom) metadata will be a snap.

 

I mean, sure, there are plenty of ways in which Plex looks "cooler", but I'm having a lot of fun poking around and having this "hey, I didn't know I could do that." sort of feeling with Emby. There are also a lot more ways to customize the experience with Emby---such as specifying which navigation tab to open by default on which library for which user---and that customization can entirely be made by me, and is not left up to my users to fiddle around with especially when they wouldn't know what they're doing messing with it.

 

Also, I know the Roku app needs some work, but the Emby devs have already said they know that and will get to it. And when they say they'll get to it, I believe them. As opposed to Plex, who usually say nothing at all; and if Plex does get to it, it's usually only some of it, and then they only get to it when they get to it, which is probably after getting to other things nobody wants. 


Edited by chyron8472, 09 January 2019 - 03:40 PM.


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Posted 09 January 2019 - 03:31 PM

Glad you're enjoying it, thanks for the feedback !



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Posted 09 January 2019 - 03:38 PM

I mean, sure, there are plenty of ways in which Plex looks "cooler"


In what way?

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 03:49 PM

In what way?

 

Well one way is the way Plex handles alphabetical browsing in movies. 

In Plex when browsing you are presented with your movie library with a alphabet on the right side and you can select a letter and then scroll forward or backward but in Emby if you select a letter you can only scroll forward and you have to back out and choose a different letter to go backward in the list.

 

This makes a difference because in Plex if you have a large library and you want to go to say one of the last "S" movies you just choose "T" and move back a few movies while in Emby you must choose "S" and scroll through all the "S" movies.

 

That just makes Emby look clumsy.


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Posted 09 January 2019 - 03:54 PM

I guess inline collections would be a collection actually showing up as one item  (e.g. 'Alien Collection') in the Movie section (or wherever) and not as the individual movies ?



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Posted 09 January 2019 - 04:01 PM

In what way?

 

Admittedly in my subjective opinion:

  • I like the navigation bar on the left in Plex Web. Emby does have something similar, but the text in Emby is smaller, there's a lot more wasted real estate, and you can't pin it onscreen.
  • I'd prefer portrait posters over landscape thumbnails on the Home Screen. Thumbnails take up considerably more real estate, especially on mobile.
  • The (normal) "My Media" section icons are too large on mobile. They're the same size as the other thumbnails, which as I said take up too much real estate.
  • Movie posters are larger on screen than I would like. I have found myself more than once zooming out on my browser a couple clicks to adjust their size, which allowed more posters to fit. Plex has an ability in-app to resize them.
  • Horizontal scrolling has a bug where you can scroll infinitely to the right, onto however many number of blank pages.
  • The navigation bar at the top is a bit wider than I think is necessary
  • The Now Playing screen for audio on Emby, I think, doesn't look very nice. The playback controls are very small and bunched together and the album art is tiny.
  • and when you click/tap on one of the playback controls for either audio or video, the control you accessed stays highlighted until you touch something else, rather than reverting back to normal.

Among some other things, I'm sure.

 

They're nitpicks, to be sure, and they're subjective, but they're things I liked about the Plex Web UI and Plex for Android v6 UI that I prefer over Emby.


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Posted 09 January 2019 - 04:13 PM

I guess inline collections would be a collection actually showing up as one item  (e.g. 'Alien Collection') in the Movie section (or wherever) and not as the individual movies ?

 

Yes. I call it "inline collections" because I've heard other people call it that. I've also called them "nested collections". But either way, I'm referring to having collection entries show up on the main library page, listed together with other items that are not in collections. In the current beta, and presumably the upcoming stable release, nested collections will be available for movies, TV shows, music albums, music songs, and probably audiobook albums. Each navigation tab's and user's "display collections" setting is independent, instead of one all-encompassing checkbox in the dashboard.


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Posted 09 January 2019 - 04:24 PM

Yes. I call it "inline collections" because I've heard other people call it that. I've also called them "nested collections". But either way, I'm referring to having collection entries show up on the main library page, listed together with other items that are not in collections. In the current beta, and presumably the upcoming stable release, nested collections will be available for movies, TV shows, music albums, music songs, and probably audiobook albums. Each navigation tab's and user's "display collections" setting is independent, instead of one all-encompassing checkbox in the dashboard.

 

Thought so. It is quite useful, though I still have the separate My Media Collections item as well. You can never have too many options...



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Posted 09 January 2019 - 04:26 PM

Well one way is the way Plex handles alphabetical browsing in movies. 

In Plex when browsing you are presented with your movie library with a alphabet on the right side and you can select a letter and then scroll forward or backward but in Emby if you select a letter you can only scroll forward and you have to back out and choose a different letter to go backward in the list.

 

This makes a difference because in Plex if you have a large library and you want to go to say one of the last "S" movies you just choose "T" and move back a few movies while in Emby you must choose "S" and scroll through all the "S" movies.

 

That just makes Emby look clumsy.

 

True, though it does vary between applications. You can do exactly as you describe in Theater, for example. Inconsistent then ?



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Posted 09 January 2019 - 04:34 PM

Well one way is the way Plex handles alphabetical browsing in movies. 

In Plex when browsing you are presented with your movie library with a alphabet on the right side and you can select a letter and then scroll forward or backward but in Emby if you select a letter you can only scroll forward and you have to back out and choose a different letter to go backward in the list.

 

This makes a difference because in Plex if you have a large library and you want to go to say one of the last "S" movies you just choose "T" and move back a few movies while in Emby you must choose "S" and scroll through all the "S" movies.

 

That just makes Emby look clumsy.

 

You can do what you want here in the Android TV app too :).



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Posted 09 January 2019 - 05:00 PM

@chyron8472 have you considered using Kodi to browse your media on the TV? It's not entry-level easy, but a much nicer experience IMO. I'd stick with the native apps for mobile though.



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Posted 09 January 2019 - 05:06 PM

@VaporTrail Yes, but I have a Roku, so that's not really an option. If or when I buy a Shield, I'll probably look into it, but at this point my Roku serves me just fine.


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Posted 09 January 2019 - 05:08 PM

You can do what you want here in the Android TV app too :).

 

Yes there are some things in the Android app that is superior to the Roku app. One is that in Android (also the Fire's version of Android I think) you can choose to have a brief description of what is highlighted on the screen in "Next up" but in the Roku app you cannot get such info and the last time (maybe nearly a year ago) I asked about it I was told that "we are thinking about it. I guess they are still "thinking."

 

But that does not make up for the general Android feel of the app. I really do not like any Android interface for any app. They all look and feel like they were designed by meth loaded preteens. Neither Plex nor Emby have an Android app that is worth my effort to learn how to work around all the deficiencies.

 

I'll just stick with my Rokus as they do not force unwanted things on me. Roku apps, both Plex and Emby, just work and that is all I really want. Everything else is just fluff, sometimes pleasant fluff and sometimes unpleasant fluff.



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Posted 09 January 2019 - 07:29 PM

But that does not make up for the general Android feel of the app. I really do not like any Android interface for any app. They all look and feel like they were designed by meth loaded preteens. Neither Plex nor Emby have an Android app that is worth my effort to learn how to work around all the deficiencies.


I couldn't stop laughing at this. I agree, I'm not sure what it is (maybe I've been in Apple land for too long), but the Android TV apps do feel very kludgy. It seems the same across the board, no matter the app. I'm not sure if it's the underlying OS and the default UI controls or what, but here's how I would equate them:

Android TV apps are to web pages using frames from 2001 as Apple TV is to using modern HTML5/CSS. Pains me the Android TV app is the most advanced one :(.. I know they're working on making the others better, but seems like it's not moving fast enough for me :)





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