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#21 Doofus OFFLINE  

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 09:15 PM

Why not use the internal player?

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 10:18 PM

Yes please let us know what shortcomings you are having with the internal player.



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Posted 10 January 2018 - 11:19 PM

This was discussed in other posts. The two main things were the picture quality being more crisp on VLC, and VLC doing a better job of downmixing surround to stereo. It's possible these have improved with Emby. I haven't tried using the internal player since this post was created.

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 11:27 PM

For the downmixing, I'm assuming you're listen through your TV? What issues are you having with that?



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Posted 10 January 2018 - 11:54 PM

can you make a screenshot example of picture quality differences? 



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Posted 11 January 2018 - 01:18 PM

For the downmixing, I'm assuming you're listen through your TV? What issues are you having with that?

No, I actually have a pair of stereo speakers. The main issue is that when emby was doing the downmixing, the centre channel was getting buried. With this being the channel that typically handles any dialogue, it would become very hard to hear anything spoken. VLC did not seem to have this issue.... at least not back when I had initially created this post. I can certainly try and do some more testing to see if it has improved since then. Just need to find the time to do it ;-)



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Posted 11 January 2018 - 01:20 PM

can you make a screenshot example of picture quality differences? 

I'm not sure how well a screenshot would demonstrate the difference, but I can certainly try. I am not sure when I will have a chance to do this though, things are rather busy at work lately. I will try to get this done though.



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Posted 11 January 2018 - 01:28 PM

No, I actually have a pair of stereo speakers. The main issue is that when emby was doing the downmixing, the centre channel was getting buried. With this being the channel that typically handles any dialogue, it would become very hard to hear anything spoken. VLC did not seem to have this issue.... at least not back when I had initially created this post. I can certainly try and do some more testing to see if it has improved since then. Just need to find the time to do it ;-)


If you have stereo, how do you have a center channel? Or do you have 3.1? Have you configured your windows speaker setup, correctly? Mpv will use that to match. And there are other options, that I can help you with. I just need to know exactly what your setup is.

For the picture, can you describe the difference you're seeing?

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 02:31 PM

If you have stereo, how do you have a center channel? Or do you have 3.1? Have you configured your windows speaker setup, correctly? Mpv will use that to match. And there are other options, that I can help you with. I just need to know exactly what your setup is.

For the picture, can you describe the difference you're seeing?

You misunderstand. I have stereo, and my settings are correct ;-) I was referring to the centre channel in a 5.1 or 7.1 mix.



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Posted 11 January 2018 - 02:44 PM

You misunderstand. I have stereo, and my settings are correct ;-) I was referring to the centre channel in a 5.1 or 7.1 mix.

Do you have Windows sound configured for stereo?  It should mix the center channel equally onto L/R, and Low Frequency Effects also for that matter.  I use quadraphonic sound, no center and no LFE, and those are correctly mixed onto L/R speakers.  I am sure many Emby users lack a physical center channel and are doing just fine.

 

Also, in Emby do you have audio configuration set to "auto"?  It should correctly follow windows speaker configuration.


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Posted 11 January 2018 - 03:02 PM

I think this post is getting away from the original topic. It is not a post to explain WHY you should use VLC over emby. It is simply instructions on how to do so should someone want to.

 

There are other threads that discuss why use one over the other :-) 



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Posted 11 January 2018 - 03:06 PM

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 03:10 PM

This was discussed in other posts. The two main things were the picture quality being more crisp on VLC, and VLC doing a better job of downmixing surround to stereo. It's possible these have improved with Emby. I haven't tried using the internal player since this post was created.

You may want to actually try a current version of the MPV client for reference.

 

I think this post is getting away from the original topic. It is not a post to explain WHY you should use VLC over emby. It is simply instructions on how to do so should someone want to.

 

There are other threads that discuss why use one over the other :-) 

OK, I won't post any further then.  I will simply state the audio downmixing problem you describe is not seen by myself or other users.


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Posted 11 January 2018 - 09:08 PM

The only reason I use VLC is the option to zoom the screen, pressing ā€œCā€ when playing will get rid of the horrid black bars.



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Posted 13 November 2018 - 12:41 PM

I'm trying to follow this process, as playing any x265, or TrueHD, or quite a few other it seems, from either the emby theater w10 client or the webapp seems to trigger server transcode, when my PCdecode them without a sweet (i9+gtx1080). My issue is that  when I click on the user icon as instructed gives :

 

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Then settings

 

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and in playback, nowhere to select an external player to use VLC for exemple, I do not get the screens shown in first post of this thread

 

(and sorry for the thread archeology)



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Posted 13 November 2018 - 12:53 PM

I'm trying to follow this process, as playing any x265, or TrueHD, or quite a few other it seems, from either the emby theater w10 client or the webapp seems to trigger server transcode, when my PCdecode them without a sweet (i9+gtx1080). My issue is that  when I click on the user icon as instructed gives :

 

 5beafdeb661c2_step1.png

 

Then settings

 

5beafe41dd8c2_step2.png

 

and in playback, nowhere to select an external player to use VLC for exemple, I do not get the screens shown in first post of this thread

 

(and sorry for the thread archeology)

 

Hi @3djc What version of Emby Theatre are you running? I just checked mine and I am on 2.9.6 and it shows the External Players option.



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Posted 13 November 2018 - 01:07 PM

Ah, spot on.

 

I followed some info that suggested to install through windows store, and got something probably terribly outdated. Remove that, downloaded installer and got 3.0.3.  Looks different, but menu is definitively there ! (and maybe not needed anymore, maybe my outdated client was making all those transcoding requirements !=

 

Thanks a lot


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Posted 13 November 2018 - 01:09 PM

Ah, spot on.

 

I followed some info that suggested to install through windows store, and got something probably terribly outdated. Remove that, downloaded installer and got 3.0.3.  Looks different, but menu is definitively there ! (and maybe not needed anymore, maybe my outdated client was making all those transcoding requirements !=

 

Thanks a lot

 

Excellent! Glad you got things working :-)



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Posted 13 November 2018 - 01:12 PM

And indeed, it plays without transcoding needs ! Many thx !!!



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Posted 13 November 2018 - 01:14 PM

Yeah, that newer app is much better, The whole Emby crew is doing some great work. I don't use an external player anymore either. 







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