Guest asrequested Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 (edited) Has anyone tried changing the settings in the firmware? Through a process of elimination, I have determined that the drives are constantly kept spinning, regardless of OS power settings. I'm trying to change that and allow the drives to spin down. Anyone messed with this? I haven't found anything online, yet. But I haven't dug very deep. Is it even possible? @@PenkethBoy Edited September 3, 2017 by Doofus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 (edited) I believe I have found the solution. Pretty easy, too. Fix type 2 https://homeservershow.com/forums/topic/11859-lsi-spindown-win-81win-10win-2016/ Well, I believe those settings work, but something is still keeping the drives awake. I'm thinking it may be Drive Pool...or just that everything is connected to everything else, and keeps them awake via the network. Edited September 3, 2017 by Doofus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Hi if we are talking 9211-8i - all my HDD drives spin down - in 2012r2 - what version of the card bios are you on? - I'm on P20 Have you changed (in Scanner) the SMART options - i throttle queries to 360 minutes - and have do not query when disk spun down - checked Also have you changed the bitlocker option - see post #28 of link - i did this and it stopped constant disk access you can see in scanner for each disk - http://community.covecube.com/index.php?/topic/1674-drivepool-service-making-constant-disk-access/page-2?hl=bitlocker&do=findComment&comment=20470 if you are using clouddrive you will need to do it for that as well - iIRC you need to reboot after changing the config file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Hi if we are talking 9211-8i - all my HDD drives spin down - in 2012r2 - what version of the card bios are you on? - I'm on P20 Have you changed (in Scanner) the SMART options - i throttle queries to 360 minutes - and have do not query when disk spun down - checked Also have you changed the bitlocker option - see post #28 of link - i did this and it stopped constant disk access you can see in scanner for each disk - http://community.covecube.com/index.php?/topic/1674-drivepool-service-making-constant-disk-access/page-2?hl=bitlocker&do=findComment&comment=20470 if you are using clouddrive you will need to do it for that as well - iIRC you need to reboot after changing the config file. It's the same on two machines. Both have drive pool, only one has scanner. Even with scanner uninstalled, nothing changes. Two cards are P19 and one is P18. Even the drives connected to the motherboard, they barely turn off. I was looking at the Bitlocker suggestion, but couldn't figure it out. Looking at what you just posted, that tells me how to do it. I'll give that a whirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I only have the default.config, and it's already set to false. No matter what I do, they keep spinning. Broadcom no longer have support for the 9211-8i on their site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I would look at other process running on your machines - what does "resource monitor" show is using your disks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 What version of DP or you on at the moment? Your card is in IT mode i assume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I would look at other process running on your machines - what does "resource monitor" show is using your disks Not a whole lot going there. DP 2.1.1. Maybe that setting I put in, doesn't actually work? I don't have solid way to test it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Ok you still on the release version then i'm on 2.2.0810 beta - not that i think it will make a difference in this case I did not do that reg change to get my disk to spin down you listed earlier - It was the bitlocker change that made a difference to me - might be different with 2012r2 and win10 - not bothered on my win10 machine as its all SSD's so spin down not needed How are you determining that the disk do not spin down? In Resource Monitor they look idle(at that time) And your cards are IT mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Ok you still on the release version then i'm on 2.2.0810 beta - not that i think it will make a difference in this case I did not do that reg change to get my disk to spin down you listed earlier - It was the bitlocker change that made a difference to me - might be different with 2012r2 and win10 - not bothered on my win10 machine as its all SSD's so spin down not needed How are you determining that the disk do not spin down? In Resource Monitor they look idle(at that time) And your cards are IT mode? Yeah, IT mode. Other than seeing the occasional flashing light on the drive tray, if I pull the drive, I can feel it spinning. And they get hot. It may be how win 10 functions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 if you set an aggressive spindown time - say 10mins leave Scanner UI open - do you see in the power column the disks go into standby from active? Sometimes with mine if i open scanner it wakes up the disks - but if i leave it open they do spin down The other way i know they spin down is accessing a shared directory after a period of inactivity - the directory can have a few seconds delay being accessible - after which its fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I only have the default.config, and it's already set to false. No matter what I do, they keep spinning. Broadcom no longer have support for the 9211-8i on their site. Just remembered you need to rename it to "Drivepool.service.exe.config" for it to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Just remembered you need to rename it to "Drivepool.service.exe.config" for it to work Ah! Let me give that a whirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 if you set an aggressive spindown time - say 10mins leave Scanner UI open - do you see in the power column the disks go into standby from active? Sometimes with mine if i open scanner it wakes up the disks - but if i leave it open they do spin down The other way i know they spin down is accessing a shared directory after a period of inactivity - the directory can have a few seconds delay being accessible - after which its fine I've tried it at multiple time limits. also after uninstalling Scanner...no change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 it not scanner but dp that has the bitlocker option that might be keeping them live and not in standby reboot after you change the name of the config file and try scanner again to see if they go into standby What power management option have you set in win10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 With bitlocker set to True - this is what you get - this is on my win10 machine If false it will not show any constant activity (other than normal disk access by programs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) if you set an aggressive spindown time - say 10mins leave Scanner UI open - do you see in the power column the disks go into standby from active? I don't see where it says active or inactive? Edited September 4, 2017 by Doofus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 With bitlocker set to True - this is what you get - this is on my win10 machine If false it will not show any constant activity (other than normal disk access by programs) Even set to false, I'm seeing periodic spikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 If you cant see the column use the drop down next to "Drive letter" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Bitlocker set to false You are going to get some if a program needs data but with bitlocker at True they are every 4-5 seconds or so - so easy to see and usually for me at least 4kb in size Maybe its something else thats doing it - but at least you can rule this out now. You have got windows search turned off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 I just noticed that all my power control settings are locked to performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 You have got windows search turned off? I read something about that but didn't look into it. So no, it's on.....how do I turn it off? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Did you just uncheck Adv Pow Man in that image? If not then its not set You have Standby Enabled though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 (edited) Did you just uncheck Adv Pow Man in that image? If not then its not set You have Standby Enabled though No, it's stuck like that. If I check it and hit set, it doesn't retain the setting. It goes right back to that Edited September 4, 2017 by Doofus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Uncheck the last option - WARNING - it will ask you if you want to do all the files and subfolders - which is what you want to do - BUT on a disk with lots of data it can take a long time - as you have lots of disks it will take several hours to do them all. I did them before i added data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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