Davco 5 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) I'm probably a bit stupid, but why another app in the Windows Store in addition to Emby UWP? What distinguishes Emby Theater UWP and Emby for Windows UWP (outside appearance and the fact that one is bought and the other requires a Premium account)? Edited September 12, 2016 by Davco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37994 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 The Emby app is an app from a community developer while Emby Theater is from the core Emby team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davco 5 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 The Emby app is an app from a community developer while Emby Theater is from the core Emby team. Yes I omitted this detail that I noticed but I do not understand this "competition" (note the quotes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icthusman1 23 Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 Yes I omitted this detail that I noticed but I do not understand this "competition" (note the quotes) The Emby app has been around since Windows 8 days. The dev @@7illusions has re-written the app for Windows 10 as a UWP app which supports Desktop, tablet, mobile, Xbox, HoloLens, and Hub. It is an independent dev working on this. Emby Theater is built by the Emby team and is also a UWP app supporting the same categories. Theater is the same as tv.emby.media on the web so the interface is quite different from that of the Emby app. I have also noticed that in some cases it plays video files better than 7's app but there are other areas where 7's app shines. He is continuing to add new features as well. Personally, I am using both at the moment and testing them out. If you are Premiere, then try out Theater. If you aren't then buying 7's app is cheaper. Although, you should be premiere to support the team developing the server itself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidman 590 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) Currently 7s app supports offline viewing (I think that is the new term) and theater does not Edited September 12, 2016 by Vidman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7illusions 1249 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Yes, the original app was originally developed by me when MediaBrowser was a hobby project. Since then a lot has happened, Media Browser became Emby, Hobby became a living.. But since the app has been around for 3 years, I really don't feel like dropping support for it just because something new arises.. The plan is that I will need to change the name of the app, and icon, but I haven't decided the direction of the App yet.. Will it just be a Emby app, or will it support other products as well? I seriously don't know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davco 5 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 The Emby app has been around since Windows 8 days. The dev @@7illusions has re-written the app for Windows 10 as a UWP app which supports Desktop, tablet, mobile, Xbox, HoloLens, and Hub. It is an independent dev working on this. Emby Theater is built by the Emby team and is also a UWP app supporting the same categories. Theater is the same as tv.emby.media on the web so the interface is quite different from that of the Emby app. I have also noticed that in some cases it plays video files better than 7's app but there are other areas where 7's app shines. He is continuing to add new features as well. Personally, I am using both at the moment and testing them out. If you are Premiere, then try out Theater. If you aren't then buying 7's app is cheaper. Although, you should be premiere to support the team developing the server itself... I know all that and I bought the app and I'm Premium too. And I don't understand the release of another app only few weeks after the release of the Emby UWP. The fact that are other dev change nothing for me, it's this competition that I don't understand. I bought the application when it was the only on Windows 8, then to 8.1, then it comes into UWP few weeks ago and now I get an email informing me of the releaset of Emby Theater UWP and I do not understand why this development of concurrent applications. I like both, although for the moment, Emby UWP is more advanced (full screen, for example). If I give up the app I would have the feeling of having bought something for "nothing" and even abandoning his creator. If I do not use Emby Theater UWP, I will say that part of my Premium subscription is not used, even if I also use the desktop application. This is a "dilemma"that the developers have not thought of. It's a bit of criticism, but mostly embarrassment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37994 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Hi, the confusion will be rectified soon. Thank you for your patience and support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNParatrooper 6 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 The app won't connect. The desktop or web connects fine. When trying to connect the app, it keeps unable to connect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidman 590 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) I know all that and I bought the app and I'm Premium too. And I don't understand the release of another app only few weeks after the release of the Emby UWP. The fact that are other dev change nothing for me, it's this competition that I don't understand. I bought the application when it was the only on Windows 8, then to 8.1, then it comes into UWP few weeks ago and now I get an email informing me of the releaset of Emby Theater UWP and I do not understand why this development of concurrent applications. I like both, although for the moment, Emby UWP is more advanced (full screen, for example). If I give up the app I would have the feeling of having bought something for "nothing" and even abandoning his creator. If I do not use Emby Theater UWP, I will say that part of my Premium subscription is not used, even if I also use the desktop application. This is a "dilemma"that the developers have not thought of. It's a bit of criticism, but mostly embarrassment I don't see the dilemma or how you are confused after the detailed explanation. You have the choice to choose which ever app suits you best. Also you paid and used the app until now so you have both already supported the creator and got your $5 worth.Something not mentioned already is that there have been 3rd party apps for both android and iOS in the past that were paid apps and abandoned by their respective developers and users then came to the emby team for support which they obviously could not do anything about. Now I'm not saying 7 will abandon his app but maybe you can see how the emby team would not like that situation from happening again as it will only damage the brand Edited September 12, 2016 by Vidman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicpa 596 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) "I don't see the dilemma or how you are confused after the detailed explanation. You have the choice to choose which ever app suits you best. Also you paid and used the app until now so you have both already supported the creator and got your $5 worth.Something not mentioned already is that there have been 3rd party apps for both android and iOS in the past that were paid apps and abandoned by their respective developers and users then came to the emby team for support which they obviously could not do anything about. Now I'm not saying 7 will abandon his app but maybe you can see how the emby team would not like that situation from happening again as it will only damage the brand" What a load of BS, the emby team does just fine damaging it's own brand by putting out such buggy releases and regurgitating the web app into in uwp, ios and any other thing. Something you failed to mention whenever a third party develops anything better, they are suddenly forced out;. Edited September 12, 2016 by Vicpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37994 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Nobody is going anywhere, thank you for your patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5139 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I'm going to the bathroom. Just thought you would all want to know that 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNParatrooper 6 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 In an effort to cause you all to digress from the pointless argument, lol, any idea on the why the app won't connect when all the other options like desktop and web connect fine. I went ahead and removed the desktop one thinking it would help, it did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5139 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I assume you are talking about ET, since that is the name of the thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidman 590 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 " Something you failed to mention whenever a third party develops anything better, they are suddenly forced out;. Ah yes sorry I forgot to mention that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNParatrooper 6 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Lol, yes, the ET app I downloaded from the store won't connect. It keeps saying unable to connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37994 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Nobody has ever been forced anywhere. In order for Emby to compete and survive we have to have our own apps on all of the major platforms, and that is why we have the Theater UWP app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5139 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) Lol, yes, the ET app I downloaded from the store won't connect. It keeps saying unable to connect See what you did? Changed the subject to something pertinent and now everyone has vanished Edit: the only thing I can suggest is the obvious Edited September 12, 2016 by FrostByte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNParatrooper 6 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Lol, forgive for trying to stop world war 3 up in here. Not even Donald Trump got this much debate going on, hahaha. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNParatrooper 6 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Well I rebooted Emby server, no joy. Gonna turn off firewall and see if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitsville 37 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Sorry im still pretty new round here. So are we saying that apart from the Emby Theatre app as in the .exe file...there are now two Emby apps in the Microsoft store? A long running user developed app and now more recently an official Emby app? Have I got that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNParatrooper 6 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 OK, so, I have two servers, one with the default port, and one with a custom port. I have to since they are both on the same network, and if I have to connect remotely, they need to different ports. Anyway, I was able to connect to the other server using the default port. Thing is, I don't want to use that server, that is the one I have my friends and family connect to. I like the one just for me..that's the one with the good stiff wink wink lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5139 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Sorry im still pretty new round here. So are we saying that apart from the Emby Theatre app as in the .exe file...there are now two Emby apps in the Microsoft store? A long running user developed app and now more recently an official Emby app? Have I got that right? Correct, basically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNParatrooper 6 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 If that is the case, how do we know which one to get? Maybe I got the wrong one, that is why I cannot connect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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