Echostorm 7 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I'm at my wits end. I just got a new 58 inch Seiki TV and hooked it up to my HTPC running the latest Emby WMC which I've never had a problem with. I disabled motion smoothing on the TV because it makes everything look like a soap opera. When we put on a normal show like Game of Thrones or Blacklist everything looks great. When we put on Bob's Burgers, Family Guy or even an animated movie like Ninja Scroll or Kiki's Delivery Service, there are stutters when there is more than just talking in the scene. I updated my drivers, I tweaked my LAV filters, I tried every setting the TV has other than the motion smoothing. Nothing seemed to help. So I said screw it, I hooked up a Roku 3 and tried playing those things with the Emby app on that. It did the exact same thing! I really don't want to have to return the TV but I don't see how it could be anything else. Any advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14959 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Sounds like the panel is running at 24 (or 48 or whatever multiple) and those videos are 30fps and it isn't coping well. Most people have the opposite problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echostorm 7 Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 Is there anything I can do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speechles 1929 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 What is the media info of one of these? The roku3 should be able to output to any TV over hdmi. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echostorm 7 Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 What is the media info of one of these? The roku3 should be able to output to any TV over hdmi. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk General Complete name : \\Core\tv\Bob's Burgers\Season 1\S01E04 - Sexy Dance Fighting.avi Format : AVI Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave File size : 174 MiB Duration : 21mn 36s Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 1 127 Kbps Writing application : VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2 (build 2540/release) Writing library : VirtualDubMod build 2540/release Video ID : 0 Format : MPEG-4 Visual Format profile : Advanced Simple@L5 Format settings, BVOP : 2 Format settings, QPel : No Format settings, GMC : No warppoints Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263) Codec ID : XVID Codec ID/Hint : XviD Duration : 21mn 36s Bit rate : 982 Kbps Width : 624 pixels Height : 352 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 23.976 (23976/1000) fps Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Compression mode : Lossy Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.186 Stream size : 152 MiB (87%) Writing library : XviD 1.2.1 (UTC 2008-12-04) Audio ID : 1 Format : MPEG Audio Format version : Version 1 Format profile : Layer 3 Mode : Joint stereo Mode extension : MS Stereo Codec ID : 55 Codec ID/Hint : MP3 Duration : 21mn 36s Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 128 Kbps Channel(s) : 2 channels Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 20.4 MiB (12%) Alignment : Aligned on interleaves Interleave, duration : 24 ms (0.58 video frame) Interleave, preload duration : 392 ms Writing library : LAME3.90. Encoding settings : -m j -V 4 -q 2 -lowpass 17.6 --abr 128 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speechles 1929 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) https://my.roku.com/account/add?channel=EmbyBlueNeon Add this app to your roku. This allows some extra features. In preferences the "MPEG4 to h264" option change to no. The "MP3/2 to AAC" option change to no. This makes xvid/divx .avi files play smoother, use far less cpu when transcoding. Make sure to change other options as well, like max video bitrate to 20Mbps. When using this app do you still have these issues? Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk Edited December 9, 2015 by speechles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14959 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Well, scratch my supposition as that video is at 24. Unless the panel is at 30/60... Also, I have had the most trouble with AVI format videos such that I avoid them at all costs these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speechles 1929 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) @@Echostorm What are the specs of the system running the server? Is it underpowered? The reason I suggested the blue neon app for your roku was to ease transcoding those videos. Keeping mpeg4 and mp3 will basically be akin to a container swap. It should let buffering keep ahead of the framerate much easier. Also, that is the "lol" release of bobs burgers. I have the same and plays fine in h264/aac or mpeg4/mp3, a bit blockier in native mpeg4 but acceptable for the cpu savings. Edited December 10, 2015 by speechles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echostorm 7 Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) @@speechles The server is a beast I built myself about 2 years ago. quad core i7, lots of 400mm fans, 32 gigs of very fast ram, sniper board, 4 tb reds and a 250 ssd for the OS, all on gigabit. The blue neon app did not have a noticable positive effect but thank you for the tip. I thought it might be the encoding but I'm finding that the same problem arises for mp4s. EDIT. I checked the return policy and found that I only had 2 days left to do an RA on the order so rather than fighting with it, its going back. I do appreciate you guys trying to help. Edited December 10, 2015 by Echostorm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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