Anyone notice if Amazon Day discounts RTX cards? 4060 Ti in this case

[them8os235 45]

We have another Amazon Day coming; last one didn't have the same effect on earnings as earlier ones, I guess.  I'm looking to buy (*) an RTX 4060 Ti.  But realized I should wait a few weeks as I noticed just today it's coming up soon .... *if* things like that are typically included in the items that get discounted.  But as I haven't been in the market for a graphx card until deciding just recently I want to put one in my server, I have never looked/noticed if they are typically included in the sale/discounts.  Has anyone noticed yea or nea? 

If consensus is yea I'll wait vs nea I'll just go ahead and pick one up now.  Thanks for your assistance if you have noticed one way or the other for sure.

 

(*) p.s. in case you're about to not answer the above question but rather tell me to get another card, lol, I'm pretty convinced either the 4060 or 4060 Ti is the one I want.  I no longer and probably will continue to not game.  Having fairly high perf transcoding & compute when rarely needed while being amongst the lowest power consumption in dual-monitor / desktop / 2D use, thus also a lowest heat producer running near idle, is top priority over ultimate performance for the current use case.  And I like where the 4060 Ti sits on that curve as per these (you'll need auto translation for 1st two if you don't read German):

https://www.computerbase.de/2023-07/grafikkarten-leistungsaufnahme-spiele-2023/

https://www.computerbase.de/2023-07/grafikkarten-leistungsaufnahme-idle-2023/

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

 

[them8os235 45]

The power consumption benchmarking tests were absolutely everything I wished existed, and was amazed did.  So I don't want to throw them under the bus.  !~But~! ...

Be careful on that computerbase.de site if you don't run browser protection.  Was just hit where an ad from the ad provider used by the site and displayed on the left margin popped open a new tab after I moused over it [!] (definitely didn't click on it), even tho I have those blocked (to me already a sign of malicious code and intent). My Norton blocked it as a malicious site.  I imagine computerbase.de has no control over or idea of what ads are displayed by their provider, so I'm not placing any blame on them.  But I may reach out and notify the webmaster that the provider is either malicious outright or an unwilling proxy showing malicious ads.

 

Edited September 19, 2024 by them8os235

[Luke 39352]

@generiqmay have some thoughts on this.

[RanmaCanada 431]

If you're not gaming and want something that is low power and can transcode, just get an Arc A310 or A380.

They will run circles around the Nvidia card when it comes to transcode quality and power usage.

[them8os235 45]

On 9/20/2024 at 2:15 PM, RanmaCanada said:

If you're not gaming and want something that is low power and can transcode, just get an Arc A310 or A380.

They will run circles around the Nvidia card when it comes to transcode quality and power usage.

I didn't get a notification of the update to the thread.  Just saw this.  Much thanks for the info. 

Very surprised to hear this.  I didn't mention my processor... Would you say it's a worthy upgrade over what my i7-12700K processor does on its own w/its integrated grafx?  (power consumption, i.e. heat generation, and silent operation from 0-fan speed mode are all draws for me to the 4060 card too)

Edited September 26, 2024 by them8os235
I always make a typo lol

[them8os235 45]

p.s. while I don't game anymore (started when Pong was released so I guess I'm over it, lol), I do plan to migrate my DSLR post processing via Lightroom Classic 6.x from my old i7-7700K workhorse to this new i7-12700K Emby + Channels media server I recently built.  So picking-up some add'l GPU compute over the CPU alone, to enable fast "develop mode" rendering of changes when switching from photo to photo @ 1:1 zoom, is important too.

edit:  All this may be moot.  The A380 has only two video connectors out. So that may negate that. And only just realizing today some/many of the cards I am considering have power connectors on the top.  I need to put the card inside a 3-U case.  And either the power connector + wires will be flat out too high, or if the wires can make the sharp right that may put too much stress on the connector/card. Pretty glad I didn't jump the gun and pick a 4060 up already; lol.

Edited September 26, 2024 by them8os235

[RanmaCanada 431]

Your 12700k will be more than enough in regards to video encode speed. As for your issue with post processing power, that gets complicated and is not something I am qualified to help with haha. You'd probably want a 3050 low profile, just because Nvidia is sadly superior for compute. MSI does make one. Remember you can use your integrated video as well as your discrete card for outputs, it would just be a matter of ensuring your post processing software is configured to use the right card. Conversely, if money is no object, there are Quadro cards that will fit your bill, like an RTX A2000/2000 (2 different cards A2000 is Ampere, 2000 is Lovelace) or an RTX 4000 SFF. These are low profile cards that only use bus power, so no power adapters required.

[them8os235 45]

1 hour ago, RanmaCanada said:

Your 12700k will be more than enough in regards to video encode speed. As for your issue with post processing power, that gets complicated and is not something I am qualified to help with haha. You'd probably want a 3050 low profile, just because Nvidia is sadly superior for compute. MSI does make one. Remember you can use your integrated video as well as your discrete card for outputs, it would just be a matter of ensuring your post processing software is configured to use the right card. Conversely, if money is no object, there are Quadro cards that will fit your bill, like an RTX A2000/2000 (2 different cards A2000 is Ampere, 2000 is Lovelace) or an RTX 4000 SFF. These are low profile cards that only use bus power, so no power adapters required.

I learned a lot today.  Much thanks for taking the time!   

Surprised to read: "Remember you can use your integrated video as well as your discrete card for outputs".  I always thought it was one or the other with integrated overridden by installation of an add-in card.  That's great to learn.

Re: "Your 12700k will be more than enough in regards to video encode speed".  Indeed, it does alone in most situations.  And stays reasonably cool w/o causing the CPU or motherboard to heat and increase fan speed even with transcoding from HEVC. The exception I'm observing is a good many of my recordings are HEVC from OTA ATSC 3.0 that needs transcoding with most device's clients its played on.  Observed the CPU & GPU utilization, and while there was a massive amount of capacity in the CPU, the GPU is working pretty hard with just 1 transcode, at least doesn't heat the CPU or MB too much.  When more family & friend members also play something requiring that level of transcoding, the GPU would start pinning and heat-up. 

Re: "You'd probably want a 3050 low profile ... or an RTX 4000 SFF".  Ya, gave up on the idea of a 4060 Ti in my 3U case.  And while money is certainly a consideration -- a large majority of what I'm going to spend is going towards doubling my 12Tb or larger IronWolf drive count (have 5x 12Tb, want 10 or 11) within a few weeks -- $300 - $400 is within reason for my sensibilities to up GPU/Compute power of my [newly built] server.

I recently discovered the Gigabyte and Asus 4060 [non-Ti] low-profile cards a few days back; have a 850w PSU so okay on needing an 8-pin supplemental power.  It's actually pretty amazing & shocking how small they are relative to full-height cards in both height and length (image provided for those that haven't seen a comparo), and performance holds up.  Funnily they have rear power connectors where I would no longer need that; but obviously it's not designed with me in mind [lol] but so that the card fits into 2U cases.  Pretty rare too these days with the inability for brick & mortar to compete is, I can actually physically go into a retailer and pick it up at the B&H Photo and Video here in NYC [but only stocks the Gigabyte].  So then, a "never mind" to the original subject of this thread; seeing if people had observed with there were cost savings to be had on RTX cards on Prime Day -haha.   Could even wait to see what the 50-series cards have to offer regarding expected efficiency advances and if past continues to be prolog to get 4070 performance from a 5060 card.   But A) can't assume there will be a low-profile 50-series card in 2025, and I'm getting impatient. 

This ... 

review: https://www.thefpsreview.com/2023/12/13/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-4060-oc-low-profile-8g-video-card-review/

Also like it was mentioned in the review that during benchmarking the fans were still near silent.

 

[RanmaCanada 431]

For your hard drives, I would look at either goharddrive or serverpartdeals. Both have their own stores, amazon stores and eBay stores (goharddrive serverpartdeals). They sell refurbished enterprise hard drives with 3-5 year warranties, and the prices can be different on each of the stores. I picked up some 12TB drives from goharddrive on eBay last month for $75 each, and they have 5 year warranties through goharddrive. If you are in doubt you can check /r/datahoarder on reddit in regards to how legit these 2 are.

[them8os235 45]

On 9/28/2024 at 10:21 AM, RanmaCanada said:

there are Quadro cards that will fit your bill, like an RTX A2000/2000 (2 different cards A2000 is Ampere, 2000 is Lovelace)

I see what you mean about "if money is no object" (relatively speaking; still more affordable than the 4070+ or 3080+ and up cards gamers would go for.  -hehe  Just read a little on it; I haven't had reason to care about graphix cards for a long long time so I'm way way behind in my knowledge of everything that's out there.  Thanx for mentioning.  I'm intrigued.  Just when I thought I had settled on the item above [4060 LP] I now have a new item to weigh the pros & cons of.    Right off the bat I love its performance, efficiency and form factor.  Biggest miss right now is no HDMI out, vs the Gigabyte 4060 LP's two HDMI and two DP, which was perfect for my intended use.  But can just change my plans too.   Thanx again.

[RanmaCanada 431]

You can also always use adapters. I've had plenty of luck with display port to hdmi adapters.

[them8os235 45]

23 minutes ago, RanmaCanada said:

You can also always use adapters. I've had plenty of luck with display port to hdmi adapters.

I use them all the time in both directions.  Just didn't think DP to HDMI will carry audio.  As one of my HDMI devices is a TV and I wanted to use it, sometimes, and those times use its speakers, sometimes.    Would be happy to be corrected but don't believe DP > HDMI can carry audio.   

[RanmaCanada 431]

5 hours ago, them8os235 said:

I use them all the time in both directions.  Just didn't think DP to HDMI will carry audio.  As one of my HDMI devices is a TV and I wanted to use it, sometimes, and those times use its speakers, sometimes.    Would be happy to be corrected but don't believe DP > HDMI can carry audio.   

DP>HDMI works perfectly fine in my experience. I have tried both to TV and to AVR with no issues. I will admit I have not tried every single audio format, but it does work fine for playing video games. I've gotten at least 5.1 audio out of DP>HDMI, but I have not tried any further, as I have no games that are in DTSHDMA or other lossless formats.

[them8os235 45]

12 hours ago, RanmaCanada said:

DP>HDMI works perfectly fine in my experience. I have tried both to TV and to AVR with no issues. I will admit I have not tried every single audio format, but it does work fine for playing video games. I've gotten at least 5.1 audio out of DP>HDMI, but I have not tried any further, as I have no games that are in DTSHDMA or other lossless formats.

Once again, I am happy to stand corrected.  Very surprised to hear this.  Thanx.

Perhaps it's the adapters I have.  I'll have to look for verified capabilities of any new ones before buying one/some. Maybe the experience I've had has been with outputs conforming to an older DP standard.  Whatever it may be, audio definitely failed to be present when I tried it in the past.

 

[them8os235 45]

To any reader coming along and reading thru the evolution of this thread (much thanx @RanmaCanada for your contributions!), I just learned from an owner of the Gigabyte RTX 4060 LP that it doesn't support 0dB mode.  Neither via FanControl (which I do run) or Gigabyte's own GCC software which is supposed to support the card and does have fan control profiles.  That's sobering news & a show-stopper. 

So for the time being I'm going to hold pat and just spend my money on HDD and DDR4 upgrades.  I've bought far from bleeding edge, several gen old tech for most of the components I used in the media server I just built; but as for a video card I did want to stay with current gen offerings.  Just nothing checks all the boxes of what I want.  So I'll wait.

Edited September 30, 2024 by them8os235

[them8os235 45]

Now that Prime Big Deal Days are upon us ... silly me for thinking the cards I want would be discounted.

[daldana 81]

@them8os235

I think this is a full sized card, but it is on sale...https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-ProArt-GeForce-Graphics-DisplayPort/dp/B0CCC7MP3H?ref=dlx_prime_dg_dcl_B0CCC7MP3H_dt_sl7_c5_dealz_fy_strm&th=1

[them8os235 45]

2 hours ago, daldana said:

@them8os235

I think this is a full sized card, but it is on sale...https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-ProArt-GeForce-Graphics-DisplayPort/dp/B0CCC7MP3H?ref=dlx_prime_dg_dcl_B0CCC7MP3H_dt_sl7_c5_dealz_fy_strm&th=1

I wish.  In retrospect super lucky I waffled and waited and made no snap impatient purchases.  As I came to determine that even a 4.4" high card won't fit in my 3U case if I want to use the cover.  I found PNY's 4060 Ti 3-fan cards to be the shortest at 4.4" high, Gigabyte is 4.5" and ASUS is 4.6".  But discovered only a few days ago I only have about 4.2" or 4.3" available; not enough for the card alone let alone the top power even w/an 8-pin U adapter.   Here's a thread I made on servethehome first asking, and then answering myself before anyone even engaged, where I detail "why not":

https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/will-it-fit-edit-no-has-anyone-managed-a-4-4-112-6mm-gpu-180-deg-power-adapter-3u-case.45718/

Can definitely fit one of the 4060 LP cards. But I think only the Gibabyte one can support reflash with their full-size card's 0DB quiet bios as only Gigabyte cards have the matching 2x HDMI + 2X DP connectors in both full-size and low-profile versions; I read from someone on SFF that surmised I believe correctly that reflash failed because of trying to flash 1x HDMI + 3x DP bios onto the LP card with 2x HDMI + 2X DP. Or could do a A2000 as suggested above but I would prefer not to pay more for less performance; and A4000 is way more than I want to spend even if it could fit; not sure it could.  And all other low-profile cards are further down the performance curve than I want to go.

[them8os235 45]

And to complete this thread, I ended up purchasing the Gigabyte RTX 4060 OC Low-Profile 8Gig, no discount/sale.