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22 minutes ago, Luke said:

HI, if you turn off subtitles before playing, how does that compare?

Same thing, it doesn't play. If I jump to 2min in it plays or anything past the intro. With or without subs it plays. Just the intro part, which is weird. I even tried another copy of the film. It does work on Android app though. 

 

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Happy2Play

So you are saying if you disable "Cinema Intros" completely you have no playback issues?

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Just now, Happy2Play said:

So you are saying if you disable "Cinema Intros" completely you have no playback issues?

My apologies, not cinema intros, just the intro at the start of the movie. Like where is shows the production company. 

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Okay just the intro of any given movie/media not actual intro files.

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So here is another log from this weekend on another movie that wouldn't play. I noticed the last part of the log says:
 

18:42:47.886 [segment @ 0xdbc100] Opening '/var/lib/emby/transcoding-temp/E19919/E19919_138.ts.tmp' for writing
18:42:47.962 subtitle_kickoff: resend - pts: 416208
18:42:47.962 subtitle_kickoff: call subtitle_resend_current 416218 frame->format: 3
18:42:48.040 Too many packets buffered for output stream 1:1.
18:42:48.096 Conversion failed!
18:42:48.096 EXIT

 

Does this mean anything?

ffmpeg-transcode-46f2f15c-6f0b-4e09-8a37-7929b5d00930_1.txt

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Devs will have to confirm but still seems subtitle related.

You have a file with 42 subtitles and 6 of those subs are sent hls to the stream.

Do you any files with no subtitles to test with?

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

Devs will have to config but still seems subtitle related.

You have a file with 42 subtitles and 6 of those subs are sent hls to the stream.

Do you any files with no subtitles to test with?

 

 

I think it's the encoding of the media files. I'm going to try another file from a different source and see what happens. The same source same HDR 10 4K video stream works on several other medias with subtitles. Maybe this is a bad copy or two. 

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Something else the devs will have to comment on also is DOVI.

 DOVI configuration record: version: 1.0, profile: 8, level: 6, rpu flag: 1, el flag: 0, bl flag: 1, compatibility id: 1

Are all the files with issues DV?

 

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23 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

Something else the devs will have to comment on also is DOVI.

 DOVI configuration record: version: 1.0, profile: 8, level: 6, rpu flag: 1, el flag: 0, bl flag: 1, compatibility id: 1

Are all the files with issues DV?

 

Yes, both those files are

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sftech13

So what are the odds that 2 different medias would cause this issue. I grabbed another copy from a different release groups and it plays fine, transcoding 4k HDR10 to 1080P 4mb with 12 subs. 

 

I want to thank @SamES@Happy2Playand @Lukefor your time and help with troubleshooting. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, sftech13 said:

So what are the odds that 2 different medias would cause this issue. I grabbed another copy from a different release groups and it plays fine

I guess the real question would be what is different with the media info?

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58 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

I guess the real question would be what is different with the media info?

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Menu
00:00:00.000                             : :Chapter 1
00:07:01.129                             : :Chapter 2
00:18:17.430                             : :Chapter 3
00:30:29.703                             : :Chapter 4
00:40:59.332                             : :Chapter 5
00:51:07.106                             : :Chapter 6
01:03:43.194                             : :Chapter 7
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01:23:10.235                             : :Chapter 9
01:33:04.788                             : :Chapter 10
01:42:25.514                             : :Chapter 11
01:56:33.528                             : :Chapter 12

Not working
 

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Ran a quick chatgpt difference between the 2 files. 1st file works, 2nd doesn't. 

Here are the main differences between the two files:

**1. File Size and Bit Rate:**
   - The first file is 33.1 GiB in size with an overall bit rate of 36.4 Mb/s.
   - The second file is 13.9 GiB in size with an overall bit rate of 15.2 Mb/s.

**2. Video Format and Resolution:**
   - Both files use HEVC (High Efficiency Video Coding) for the video format.
   - The first file has a resolution of 3840x1608 pixels and a frame rate of 23.976 FPS.
   - The second file has a resolution of 3840x1600 pixels and the same frame rate of 23.976 FPS.

**3. Audio Format:**
   - The first file uses TrueHD with Dolby Atmos and has a bit rate of 3,263 kb/s, 8 channels, and lossless compression.
   - The second file uses Enhanced AC-3 with Joint Object Coding (Dolby Digital Plus with Dolby Atmos) and has a bit rate of 768 kb/s, 6 channels, and lossy compression.

**4. Subtitles and Text Streams:**
   - Both files include English subtitles, but the number of subtitle and text streams differs slightly.
   - The first file contains multiple text and subtitle tracks in different languages, including UTF-8 and PGS formats.
   - The second file contains English, Spanish, and Latin American text streams, and all are in UTF-8 format.

**5. Chapter Points:**
   - Both files have chapter points, but the time intervals for each chapter are different between the two files.

These are the main differences between the two files in terms of size, video and audio format, subtitles, and chapter points.
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Happy2Play

A dev or file junky will probably be able to explain more as it is a format difference.  More toward the HDR format.

working

Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible

Not working

Format profile                           : Main 10@L5@Main
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible

 

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FrostByte

The second file is simply HEVC level 5 HDR10+ and is typical of streaming media from Amazon, Paramount+, etc which stream HDR10+.

HEVC level 5.1 HDR10+ is what you would find on UHD for movies like Shaun of the dead.

Either way, even a TV which doesn't support HDR10+ will still play it because it's just metadata and something like a LG will just ignore the extra metadata.

 

Maybe the file which isn't working just has a bad header, or something.  Try remuxing to see if that works.

Otherwise maybe upload a small sample which isn't working.

 

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I just played 5 minutes of "A Gentleman in Moscow" with no issue.

Format profile : Main 10@L5@Main 
HDR format : SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible 

 

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