looking111 9 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 ..it looks like some color is missing. The HD version of the movie, is much better. I have a 65" HDR10 screen here. The movie is played with the Embyapp on Android TV. The playback of the video material is direct, without transcoding. I have some 4K blurays here, no one of them have a nice picture. For example the movie "The Visitor from the Future". Bad picture on the tv, but perfect picture on the webbrowser. The difference is that the web browser transcodes and removes the HDR part automatically. Screenshots attached. What is here wrong? Is my HDR version too old? Or is there something additional that needs to be configured on Emby? Very Thanks and many greetings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37095 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Hi there, let's look at an example. Please attach the information requested in how to report a media playback issue. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwhodges 1532 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 57 minutes ago, looking111 said: ..it looks like some color is missing. The HD version of the movie, is much better. I have a 65" HDR10 screen here. The movie is played with the Embyapp on Android TV. The playback of the video material is direct, without transcoding. I have some 4K blurays here, no one of them have a nice picture. If the problem arises with direct play only, then Emby is not really involved. The problem is something between your files and your TV... Perhaps there is a problem with how the BDs have been ripped, such that the TV doesn't recognise the HDR layer. How do you do the ripping? Paul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4283 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 11 hours ago, looking111 said: ..it looks like some color is missing. The HD version of the movie, is much better. I have a 65" HDR10 screen here. The movie is played with the Embyapp on Android TV. The playback of the video material is direct, without transcoding. I have some 4K blurays here, no one of them have a nice picture. For example the movie "The Visitor from the Future". Bad picture on the tv, but perfect picture on the webbrowser. The difference is that the web browser transcodes and removes the HDR part automatically. Screenshots attached. What is here wrong? Is my HDR version too old? Or is there something additional that needs to be configured on Emby? Very Thanks and many greetings Is your TV activating it's HDR mode (usually you get some indication on screen when doing so). If not, then you are playing HDR material back in SDR, which will look very washed out. As Paul has said above - it's likely the way you have ripped the BR's - or it's possibly some settings on the playback client. Any form of transcode will 'tonemap' the colour back in to make it SDR - that's why it looks 'better' but it's not HDR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37095 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 @looking111? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicDoubleM 93 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 From the screenshot I'd suspect that DTSHDMA is triggering the transcode. The TV probably doesn't like it. In the emby client you have a few options dealing with audio, play with them. Disabling bit-streaming for example... If that doesn't work, try something with (E)AC3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReaper 3308 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, MagicDoubleM said: From the screenshot I'd suspect that DTSHDMA is triggering the transcode. The TV probably doesn't like it. In the emby client you have a few options dealing with audio, play with them. Disabling bit-streaming for example... If that doesn't work, try something with (E)AC3. Transcoding is not the problem - quite the contrary, transcoded content looks 'better' to the OP due to tonemapping - OP's having issues with DirectPlayed content. Edited October 20, 2023 by GrimReaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicDoubleM 93 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Right, I was bit quick... Could be a misconfiguration of the client then, or an old HDMI cable, or the TV doesn't support HDR on all inputs, or needs HDR enabled in the settings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looking111 9 Posted October 21, 2023 Author Share Posted October 21, 2023 On 10/20/2023 at 7:18 AM, Luke said: @looking111? Here are the Logs from Emby if i play the movie on Android TV (Android 9) 4K HDR10 2023-10-21 17:53:03.311 Info Server: http/1.1 POST http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/Items/9677017/PlaybackInfo?format=json. UserAgent: Dalvik/2.1.0 (Linux; U; Android 9; KAGIS Android TV Build/PTO2.220426.001) 2023-10-21 17:53:03.323 Info App: User policy for xbmc. EnablePlaybackRemuxing: True EnableVideoPlaybackTranscoding: True EnableAudioPlaybackTranscoding: True 2023-10-21 17:53:03.324 Info Server: http/1.1 Response 200 to 10.4.5.2. Time: 13ms. POST http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/Items/9677017/PlaybackInfo?format=json 2023-10-21 17:53:04.949 Info Server: http/1.1 POST http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/Sessions/Playing. UserAgent: Dalvik/2.1.0 (Linux; U; Android 9; KAGIS Android TV Build/PTO2.220426.001) 2023-10-21 17:53:04.988 Info SessionManager: Playback start reported by app AndroidTv 2.0.93g playing Visitor from the Future. Started at 623599 ms 2023-10-21 17:53:04.991 Info Server: http/1.1 Response 204 to 10.4.5.2. Time: 42ms. POST http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/Sessions/Playing 2023-10-21 17:53:05.136 Info Server: http/1.1 GET http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/videos/9677017/original.mkv?DeviceId=e8e155ae46dbca63&MediaSourceId=611c7748a6723e80d8d7216179cf6aa7&PlaySessionId=e29c1dc912544865b5f2051746fb0ee8&api_key=fff6a76f8fce42d49d07329130d7f072. Connection=keep-alive, Host=stream.osit.cc:8096, User-Agent=Emby/2.0.93g (Linux;Android 9) ExoPlayerLib/2.18.7, Accept-Encoding=identity, Icy-MetaData=1 2023-10-21 17:53:05.389 Info Server: http/1.1 Response 200 to 10.4.5.2. Time: 252ms. GET http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/videos/9677017/original.mkv?DeviceId=e8e155ae46dbca63&MediaSourceId=611c7748a6723e80d8d7216179cf6aa7&PlaySessionId=e29c1dc912544865b5f2051746fb0ee8&api_key=fff6a76f8fce42d49d07329130d7f072 2023-10-21 17:53:05.404 Info Server: http/1.1 GET http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/videos/9677017/original.mkv?DeviceId=e8e155ae46dbca63&MediaSourceId=611c7748a6723e80d8d7216179cf6aa7&PlaySessionId=e29c1dc912544865b5f2051746fb0ee8&api_key=fff6a76f8fce42d49d07329130d7f072. Connection=keep-alive, Host=stream.osit.cc:8096, User-Agent=Emby/2.0.93g (Linux;Android 9) ExoPlayerLib/2.18.7, Accept-Encoding=identity, Range=bytes=48277074659-, Icy-MetaData=1 2023-10-21 17:53:05.414 Info Server: http/1.1 Response 206 to 10.4.5.2. Time: 10ms. GET http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/videos/9677017/original.mkv?DeviceId=e8e155ae46dbca63&MediaSourceId=611c7748a6723e80d8d7216179cf6aa7&PlaySessionId=e29c1dc912544865b5f2051746fb0ee8&api_key=fff6a76f8fce42d49d07329130d7f072 2023-10-21 17:53:05.566 Info Server: http/1.1 GET http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/videos/9677017/original.mkv?DeviceId=e8e155ae46dbca63&MediaSourceId=611c7748a6723e80d8d7216179cf6aa7&PlaySessionId=e29c1dc912544865b5f2051746fb0ee8&api_key=fff6a76f8fce42d49d07329130d7f072. Connection=keep-alive, Host=stream.osit.cc:8096, User-Agent=Emby/2.0.93g (Linux;Android 9) ExoPlayerLib/2.18.7, Accept-Encoding=identity, Range=bytes=3617-, Icy-MetaData=1 2023-10-21 17:53:07.112 Info Server: http/1.1 Response 206 to 10.4.5.2. Time: 1547ms. GET http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/videos/9677017/original.mkv?DeviceId=e8e155ae46dbca63&MediaSourceId=611c7748a6723e80d8d7216179cf6aa7&PlaySessionId=e29c1dc912544865b5f2051746fb0ee8&api_key=fff6a76f8fce42d49d07329130d7f072 2023-10-21 17:53:07.161 Info Server: http/1.1 GET http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/videos/9677017/original.mkv?DeviceId=e8e155ae46dbca63&MediaSourceId=611c7748a6723e80d8d7216179cf6aa7&PlaySessionId=e29c1dc912544865b5f2051746fb0ee8&api_key=fff6a76f8fce42d49d07329130d7f072. Connection=keep-alive, Host=stream.osit.cc:8096, User-Agent=Emby/2.0.93g (Linux;Android 9) ExoPlayerLib/2.18.7, Accept-Encoding=identity, Range=bytes=3682956879-, Icy-MetaData=1 2023-10-21 17:53:07.367 Info Server: http/1.1 POST http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/Sessions/Playing/Progress. UserAgent: Dalvik/2.1.0 (Linux; U; Android 9; KAGIS Android TV Build/PTO2.220426.001) 2023-10-21 17:53:07.379 Info Server: http/1.1 Response 204 to 10.4.5.2. Time: 12ms. POST http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/Sessions/Playing/Progress 2023-10-21 17:53:17.377 Info Server: http/1.1 POST http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/Sessions/Playing/Progress. UserAgent: Dalvik/2.1.0 (Linux; U; Android 9; KAGIS Android TV Build/PTO2.220426.001) 2023-10-21 17:53:17.381 Info Server: http/1.1 Response 204 to 10.4.5.2. Time: 4ms. POST http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/Sessions/Playing/Progress 2023-10-21 17:53:27.382 Info Server: http/1.1 POST http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/Sessions/Playing/Progress. UserAgent: Dalvik/2.1.0 (Linux; U; Android 9; KAGIS Android TV Build/PTO2.220426.001) I also send the Debuglogs via Android TV Embyapp on Eastern Time please - UTC -5 @11:00 Attached also the Datasheet from the TV. Here i played 1-2 Minutes the same movie but not in browser directly on the AndroidTV with the Embyapp. Directplay. Movie: Visitor from the Future, 4k HDR 10, HEVC in an MKV, ripped with "makemkv". The stream comes only over the network. No HDMI cable. And as it is, I've actually never enjoyed HDR with this device. There was never an HDR message display. I would have to borrow a Bluray HDR player from somewhere to really test it. Maybe I can find a good HDR test file. I'll see right away... Thanks all Kagis-Datenblatt-U65S1UHD.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwhodges 1532 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 When direct playing the logs are not useful (for this issue), because Emby is doing no processing on the video at all. The file is being sent to the TV as it is - so either the TV is not correctly set to activate the HDR, or the file doesn't contain the HDR information in a form that the TV can recognise (but Emby recognises it, because it gets it right when transcoding, so the issue is most likely with the TV). Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReaper 3308 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 @looking111 For the time being, you can select Playback correction twice in OSD Cog menu, that'll trigger transcoding (and tonemapping) so that item will at least ll be watchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4283 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 15 hours ago, looking111 said: Here are the Logs from Emby if i play the movie on Android TV (Android 9) 4K HDR10 2023-10-21 17:53:03.311 Info Server: http/1.1 POST http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/Items/9677017/PlaybackInfo?format=json. UserAgent: Dalvik/2.1.0 (Linux; U; Android 9; KAGIS Android TV Build/PTO2.220426.001) 2023-10-21 17:53:03.323 Info App: User policy for xbmc. EnablePlaybackRemuxing: True EnableVideoPlaybackTranscoding: True EnableAudioPlaybackTranscoding: True 2023-10-21 17:53:03.324 Info Server: http/1.1 Response 200 to 10.4.5.2. Time: 13ms. POST http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/Items/9677017/PlaybackInfo?format=json 2023-10-21 17:53:04.949 Info Server: http/1.1 POST http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/Sessions/Playing. UserAgent: Dalvik/2.1.0 (Linux; U; Android 9; KAGIS Android TV Build/PTO2.220426.001) 2023-10-21 17:53:04.988 Info SessionManager: Playback start reported by app AndroidTv 2.0.93g playing Visitor from the Future. Started at 623599 ms 2023-10-21 17:53:04.991 Info Server: http/1.1 Response 204 to 10.4.5.2. Time: 42ms. POST http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/Sessions/Playing 2023-10-21 17:53:05.136 Info Server: http/1.1 GET http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/videos/9677017/original.mkv?DeviceId=e8e155ae46dbca63&MediaSourceId=611c7748a6723e80d8d7216179cf6aa7&PlaySessionId=e29c1dc912544865b5f2051746fb0ee8&api_key=fff6a76f8fce42d49d07329130d7f072. Connection=keep-alive, Host=stream.osit.cc:8096, User-Agent=Emby/2.0.93g (Linux;Android 9) ExoPlayerLib/2.18.7, Accept-Encoding=identity, Icy-MetaData=1 2023-10-21 17:53:05.389 Info Server: http/1.1 Response 200 to 10.4.5.2. Time: 252ms. GET http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/videos/9677017/original.mkv?DeviceId=e8e155ae46dbca63&MediaSourceId=611c7748a6723e80d8d7216179cf6aa7&PlaySessionId=e29c1dc912544865b5f2051746fb0ee8&api_key=fff6a76f8fce42d49d07329130d7f072 2023-10-21 17:53:05.404 Info Server: http/1.1 GET http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/videos/9677017/original.mkv?DeviceId=e8e155ae46dbca63&MediaSourceId=611c7748a6723e80d8d7216179cf6aa7&PlaySessionId=e29c1dc912544865b5f2051746fb0ee8&api_key=fff6a76f8fce42d49d07329130d7f072. Connection=keep-alive, Host=stream.osit.cc:8096, User-Agent=Emby/2.0.93g (Linux;Android 9) ExoPlayerLib/2.18.7, Accept-Encoding=identity, Range=bytes=48277074659-, Icy-MetaData=1 2023-10-21 17:53:05.414 Info Server: http/1.1 Response 206 to 10.4.5.2. Time: 10ms. GET http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/videos/9677017/original.mkv?DeviceId=e8e155ae46dbca63&MediaSourceId=611c7748a6723e80d8d7216179cf6aa7&PlaySessionId=e29c1dc912544865b5f2051746fb0ee8&api_key=fff6a76f8fce42d49d07329130d7f072 2023-10-21 17:53:05.566 Info Server: http/1.1 GET http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/videos/9677017/original.mkv?DeviceId=e8e155ae46dbca63&MediaSourceId=611c7748a6723e80d8d7216179cf6aa7&PlaySessionId=e29c1dc912544865b5f2051746fb0ee8&api_key=fff6a76f8fce42d49d07329130d7f072. Connection=keep-alive, Host=stream.osit.cc:8096, User-Agent=Emby/2.0.93g (Linux;Android 9) ExoPlayerLib/2.18.7, Accept-Encoding=identity, Range=bytes=3617-, Icy-MetaData=1 2023-10-21 17:53:07.112 Info Server: http/1.1 Response 206 to 10.4.5.2. Time: 1547ms. GET http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/videos/9677017/original.mkv?DeviceId=e8e155ae46dbca63&MediaSourceId=611c7748a6723e80d8d7216179cf6aa7&PlaySessionId=e29c1dc912544865b5f2051746fb0ee8&api_key=fff6a76f8fce42d49d07329130d7f072 2023-10-21 17:53:07.161 Info Server: http/1.1 GET http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/videos/9677017/original.mkv?DeviceId=e8e155ae46dbca63&MediaSourceId=611c7748a6723e80d8d7216179cf6aa7&PlaySessionId=e29c1dc912544865b5f2051746fb0ee8&api_key=fff6a76f8fce42d49d07329130d7f072. Connection=keep-alive, Host=stream.osit.cc:8096, User-Agent=Emby/2.0.93g (Linux;Android 9) ExoPlayerLib/2.18.7, Accept-Encoding=identity, Range=bytes=3682956879-, Icy-MetaData=1 2023-10-21 17:53:07.367 Info Server: http/1.1 POST http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/Sessions/Playing/Progress. UserAgent: Dalvik/2.1.0 (Linux; U; Android 9; KAGIS Android TV Build/PTO2.220426.001) 2023-10-21 17:53:07.379 Info Server: http/1.1 Response 204 to 10.4.5.2. Time: 12ms. POST http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/Sessions/Playing/Progress 2023-10-21 17:53:17.377 Info Server: http/1.1 POST http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/Sessions/Playing/Progress. UserAgent: Dalvik/2.1.0 (Linux; U; Android 9; KAGIS Android TV Build/PTO2.220426.001) 2023-10-21 17:53:17.381 Info Server: http/1.1 Response 204 to 10.4.5.2. Time: 4ms. POST http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/Sessions/Playing/Progress 2023-10-21 17:53:27.382 Info Server: http/1.1 POST http://stream.osit.cc:8096/emby/Sessions/Playing/Progress. UserAgent: Dalvik/2.1.0 (Linux; U; Android 9; KAGIS Android TV Build/PTO2.220426.001) I also send the Debuglogs via Android TV Embyapp on Eastern Time please - UTC -5 @11:00 Attached also the Datasheet from the TV. Here i played 1-2 Minutes the same movie but not in browser directly on the AndroidTV with the Embyapp. Directplay. Movie: Visitor from the Future, 4k HDR 10, HEVC in an MKV, ripped with "makemkv". The stream comes only over the network. No HDMI cable. And as it is, I've actually never enjoyed HDR with this device. There was never an HDR message display. I would have to borrow a Bluray HDR player from somewhere to really test it. Maybe I can find a good HDR test file. I'll see right away... Thanks all Kagis-Datenblatt-U65S1UHD.pdf 688.52 kB · 0 downloads Plenty of test files here https://4kmedia.org/ If these do not display HDR10 (but direct play) then as I above, I suspect you may have HDR turned off on your TV ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looking111 9 Posted October 25, 2023 Author Share Posted October 25, 2023 Thrilling...I found the setting for HDR on the TV. It is only available when a movie is running with HDR. And it works correctly. When I disable it the movie is really washed out. Now I know the difference. So either I have bad HDR material on the bluray's, or the HDR implementation on the TV is bad. So everything works correctly. Well in a way. I'll look into this further and give feedback. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwhodges 1532 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 hours ago, looking111 said: So either I have bad HDR material on the bluray's, or the HDR implementation on the TV is bad. Or the rip of the Blueray has done something odd; though the fact that when transcoding Emby processes the HDR correctly suggests that the file is OK. How do you make the rips? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looking111 9 Posted October 25, 2023 Author Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 minute ago, pwhodges said: Or the rip of the Blueray has done something odd; though the fact that when transcoding Emby processes the HDR correctly suggests that the file is OK. How do you make the rips? Paul With makemkv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwhodges 1532 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Hmm - I'd expect that to be OK. Maybe there's something about the TV after all... Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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