LeshaShklar 5 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 android tv emby doesn't use GPU transcoding Is this normal? 50PUS8507/60 Android TV 2.0.83g in androidtv application resolution isnt specified, only the bitrate ((( why? 2 download why does it use CPU encoding when choosing a bitrate for downloading? it's okay? and why are there so few options when loading? why not make a choice as in online viewing? resolution-bitrate 3 and another interesting question what about hdr? nvidia supports hdr encoding server unable to transcode while preserving the hdr during online viewing, ok but what about downloads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReaper 3291 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, LeshaShklar said: 1 android tv emby doesn't use GPU transcoding Is this normal? 50PUS8507/60 Android TV 2.0.83g What exactly do you mean by that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeshaShklar 5 Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 5 hours ago, GrimReaper said: What exactly do you mean by that? start movie on the phone (android) - transcoding on GPU start movie on the androidTV - transcodes on CPU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReaper 3291 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Example ffmpeg log? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeshaShklar 5 Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 minute ago, GrimReaper said: Example ffmpeg log? this? download with transcoding ffmpeg-transcode-81b34901-7f2e-42c7-8f9f-cdf96cb07bdd_1.txt TV ffmpeg-transcode-9936fec7-1698-469a-9f7f-a67c2cbab6e5_1.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReaper 3291 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) Quote &TranscodeReasons=VideoProfileNotSupported Quote {"Codec":"h264","Language":"eng","TimeBase":"1/1000","VideoRange":"SDR","DisplayTitle":"1080p H264","DisplayLanguage":"English","NalLengthSize":"4","IsInterlaced":false,"BitRate":3970637,"BitDepth":10,"RefFrames":1,"IsDefault":true,"IsForced":false,"Height":800,"Width":1920,"AverageFrameRate":23.976025,"RealFrameRate":23.976025,"Profile":"High 4:4:4 Predictive","Type":"Video","AspectRatio":"2.40:1","Index":0,"IsExternal":false,"IsTextSubtitleStream":false,"SupportsExternalStream":false,"Protocol":"File","PixelFormat":"yuv444p10le","Level":41,"IsAnamorphic":false,"AttachmentSize":0} That's an AVC Hi10p profile and 4:4:4 chroma - AFAIK no device supports that in HW even separately, let alone combined, not even your Ampere RTX (and don't think Ada Lovelace does either), so you're getting decode in software and encode in hardware, meaning your HWA is working as expected and nothing more you can do there save re-encode your video file. Quote >>>>>> FindVideoEncoder - MediaType: h264, UseHardwareCodecs: True, HWA-Mode: Advanced Info Checking: 'NVENC NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - H.264 (AVC)' Info Check successful - selecting 'NVENC NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - H.264 (AVC)' >>>>>> FindVideoDecoder - MediaType: h264, UseHardwareCodecs: True, HWA-Mode: Advanced Info Checking: 'NVDEC NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - H.264 (AVC)' NoMatch The color format (yuv444p10) is not supported) Info Decoder does not match Info Checking: 'DX11VA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - H.264 (AVC)' NoMatch Encoder is not compatible with 'D3d11va' decoders Info Checking: 'CUVID NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - H.264 (AVC)' NoMatch The color format (yuv444p10) is not supported) Info Decoder does not match Info Checking: 'Automatic software decoder' Info Check successful - selecting 'Automatic software decoder' Warning: GetSwPixelFormatInHwContext: Unable to map video color format 'yuv444p10' to codec format >>>>>> Processing Plan Name CanDoInHW WillDoInHW Reason Automatic software decoder >> False False Software Codec VideoInput >> False False Not a hardware decoder ColorConversion >> True True VideoOutput >> True True Hardware encoder NVENC NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - H.264... >> True True Hardware Codec >>>>>> Video Processing Steps for [0:0]: H.264 (AVC) Step HW-Context Format SW-Format Size Next H264 >> - yuv444p10 yuv444p10 1920x800 >> hwupload_cuda hwupload_cuda >> CUDA cuda nv12 1920x800 >> superscale_cuda superscale_cuda >> CUDA cuda yuv420p 1920x800 >> setsar setsar >> CUDA cuda yuv420p 1920x800 Edited March 11, 2023 by GrimReaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeshaShklar 5 Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, GrimReaper said: AVC Hi10p 4: 4: 4 1 3080 supports 4:4:4 2 emby doesnt always transcode 4:4:4 on CPU, it often transcodes on GPU)))) here is a log from another movie, it is also 4:4:4, and... gpu transcoding new.txt Edited March 11, 2023 by LeshaShklar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReaper 3291 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, LeshaShklar said: 1 3080 supports 4:4:4 Incorrect. You're looking at the wrong table, that's NVENC - encoder, not decoder. 3 minutes ago, LeshaShklar said: 2 emby doesnt always transcode 4:4:4 on CPU, it often transcodes on the video card)))) here is a log from another movie, it is also 4:4:4, and... gpu transcoding Incorrect again, your getting same: SW decode/HW encode. Quote >>>>>> Hardware Decoders for h264 [X] NVDEC NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - H.264 (AVC) [X] DX11VA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - H.264 (AVC) [X] CUVID NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - H.264 (AVC) >>>>>> Hardware Encoders for h264 [X] NVENC NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - H.264 (AVC) >>>>>> Selected Codecs Decoder Automatic software decoder Encoder NVENC NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - H.264 (AVC) Adapter #0: 'NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080' ComputeCapability: 8.6 Max Bitrate: 781 Mbit/s - Frame Sizes: max 4096x4096 - Width Alignment: 2 - Height Alignment: 2 Color Formats: NV12, P010, P016 - Bit Depths: 8, 10, 12, 14, 16 Profiles: Baseline Profile (Level 6.2), Main Profile (Level 6.2), High Profile (Level 6.2), High 4:4:4 Predictive Profile (Level 6.2) >>>>>> FindVideoEncoder - MediaType: h264, UseHardwareCodecs: True, HWA-Mode: Advanced Info Checking: 'NVENC NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - H.264 (AVC)' Info Check successful - selecting 'NVENC NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - H.264 (AVC)' >>>>>> FindVideoDecoder - MediaType: h264, UseHardwareCodecs: True, HWA-Mode: Advanced Info Checking: 'NVDEC NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - H.264 (AVC)' NoMatch The color format (yuv444p10) is not supported) Info Decoder does not match Info Checking: 'DX11VA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - H.264 (AVC)' NoMatch Encoder is not compatible with 'D3d11va' decoders Info Checking: 'CUVID NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - H.264 (AVC)' NoMatch The color format (yuv444p10) is not supported) Info Decoder does not match Info Checking: 'Automatic software decoder' Info Check successful - selecting 'Automatic software decoder' Warning: Hardware-accelerated subtitle-overlay is disabled due to diagnostic option >>>>>> Subtitle Processing Steps for [0:2]: HDMV PGS subtitles Step Format Target Size HDMV_PGS_SUBTITLE >> Subs: Bitmap scale >> Video: UNKNOWN 720x390 >>>>>> Processing Plan Name CanDoInHW WillDoInHW Reason Automatic software decoder >> False False Software Codec VideoInput >> False False Not a hardware decoder Scaling >> True False ColorConversion >> True False SubtitleOverlay >> False False VideoOutput >> True True Hardware encoder NVENC NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - H.264... >> True True Hardware Codec >>>>>> Video Processing Steps for [0:0]: H.264 (AVC) Step HW-Context Format SW-Format Size Next H264 >> - yuv444p10 yuv444p10 1920x1040 >> scale scale >> - yuv444p10 yuv444p10 720x390 >> format format >> - yuv420p yuv420p 720x390 >> overlay overlay >> - yuv420p yuv420p 720x390 >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeshaShklar 5 Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 minute ago, GrimReaper said: Incorrect. You're looking at the wrong table, that's NVENC - encoder, not decoder. Incorrect again, your getting same: SW decode/HW encode. 1 you didnt understand )) on TV, transcoding on CPU CPU usage 100% + ffmpeg.exe in "processess" - film 444 in the latter case with another film, transcoding on GPU CPU usage 5%.. but film 444 ..... what is the difference? ))) Why is the 1st movie 444 transcoding on CPU, but the 2nd movie 444 transcoding on GPU? 2 why transcoding with "download" is also on CPU? I tried on 420, but emby transcodes on the processor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReaper 3291 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, LeshaShklar said: Why is the 1st movie 444 transcoding on CPU, but the 2nd movie 444 transcoding on GPU? I have no idea why are you under the impression that second movie is GPU transcoded as both sessions are literally the same: decode in SW (your CPU), encode in HW (your GPU). As for why CPU usage differs, Dev would have to comment. @softworkz 7 minutes ago, LeshaShklar said: I tried on 420, but emby transcodes on the processor If you're using AVC Hi10p, yes, as no device can decode 10-bit h264 in HW, as stated before: 42 minutes ago, GrimReaper said: AFAIK no device supports that in HW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeshaShklar 5 Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, GrimReaper said: I have no idea why are you under the impression that second movie is GPU transcoded as both sessions are literally the same: decode in SW (your CPU), encode in HW (your GPU). As for why CPU usage differs, Dev would have to comment. @softworkz If you're using AVC Hi10p, yes, as no device can decode 10-bit h264 in HW, as stated before: I dont understand too))) 2 films, both 444 - see screenshots As far as I understand, Nvidia doesnt support 444 decoding. but supports 444 encoding, right? but emby encodes without gpu 1 of 2 movies... but what about downloading and transcoding? i'm trying to download a tvshow, emby encodes it WITHOUT gpu Video ID : 1 Format : HEVC Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Format profile : Main 10@L4@Main HDR format : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC Duration : 41 min 46 s Bit rate : 2 794 kb/s Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 800 pixels Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 24.000 FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2) Bit depth : 10 bits Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.076 Stream size : 835 MiB (62%) Writing library : x265 3.5+20-4c4aee0bc:[DJATOM's Mod][Windows][GCC 10.3.0][64 bit] 10bit but if i watch this series online then transcoding and decoding on gpu wtf? ))) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeshaShklar 5 Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 oh sorry my mistake transcoding and downloading for tv show works correctly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReaper 3291 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 11 minutes ago, LeshaShklar said: 2 films, both 444 - see screenshots Screenshots are irrelevant (and occasionally incorrect in certain scenarios), that's why logs are there. And it's not chroma only that defines process, its codec AVC vs HEVC and color 8-bit of 10-bit and lot of other parameters. AVCHD HW support goes up to 8-bit 4:2:0 - anything above is decoded in SW. 14 minutes ago, LeshaShklar said: As far as I understand, Nvidia doesnt support 444 decoding. but supports 444 encoding, right? For AVC - correct. https://developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-video-codec-sdk#collapse-2 But you ain't getting that 4:4:4 as during transcoding process it is compressed to 4:2:0: Quote >>>>>> Video Processing Steps for [0:0]: H.264 (AVC) Step HW-Context Format SW-Format Size Next H264 >> - yuv444p10 yuv444p10 1920x800 >> hwupload_cuda hwupload_cuda >> CUDA cuda nv12 1920x800 >> superscale_cuda superscale_cuda >> CUDA cuda yuv420p 1920x800 >> setsar setsar >> CUDA cuda yuv420p 1920x800 Quote >>>>>> Video Processing Steps for [0:0]: H.264 (AVC) Step HW-Context Format SW-Format Size Next H264 >> - yuv444p10 yuv444p10 1920x1040 >> scale scale >> - yuv444p10 yuv444p10 720x390 >> format format >> - yuv420p yuv420p 720x390 >> overlay overlay >> - yuv420p yuv420p 720x390 20 minutes ago, LeshaShklar said: but emby encodes without gpu 1 of 2 movies... Example ffmpeg logs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReaper 3291 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) Looking further into your 1st log (which is literally making my mobile device to a crawl) which I didn't do before, your HWA is failing and is falling back to SW, so it does end up as full SW transcode: Quote 11:22:12.414 [superscale_cuda@f2 @ 000002554f9fa080] Unsupported input format: yuv444p16le 11:22:12.414 [superscale_cuda@f2 @ 000002554f9fa080] Failed to configure output pad on superscale_cuda@f2 Quote Info Previous transcoding attempt failed. Falling back to software transcoding. >>>>>> FindVideoEncoder - MediaType: h264, UseHardwareCodecs: False, HWA-Mode: Advanced Info Checking: 'x264 Software Encoder' Info Check successful - selecting 'x264 Software Encoder' >>>>>> FindVideoDecoder - MediaType: h264, UseHardwareCodecs: False, HWA-Mode: Advanced Info Checking: 'Automatic software decoder' Info Check successful - selecting 'Automatic software decoder' >>>>>> Processing Plan Name CanDoInHW WillDoInHW Reason Automatic software decoder >> False False Software Codec VideoInput >> False False Not a hardware decoder ColorConversion >> False False VideoOutput >> False False Not a hardware encoder x264 Software Encoder >> False False Software Codec @softworkz Where did yuv444p16le come from as video stream is yuv444p10le? Edited March 11, 2023 by GrimReaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softworkz 3335 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 51 minutes ago, GrimReaper said: @softworkz Where did yuv444p16le come from as video stream is yuv444p10le? CUDA doesn't support yuv444p10, hence the hwupload_cuda filter doesn't either: ffmpeg uses filter negotiation, so it tried to insert a software conversion filter to yuv444p16 before hwupload_cuda. Next in the chain is superscale_cuda - which doesn't support yuv444p16. superscale_cuda is a custom filter which we added, because at the time of the last release, the regular scale_cuda filter in ffmpeg wasn't able to do color conversion - which superscale_cuda can do (but not for this format). Meanwhile, scale_cuda is able to do color conversions as well, so this issue is a great reminder to replace superscale_cuda with scale_cuda now - for the next beta and 4.8 release. For the current release, we'll have to live with the automatic fallback to sw transcoding, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReaper 3291 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, softworkz said: CUDA doesn't support yuv444p10, hence the hwupload_cuda filter doesn't either: ffmpeg uses filter negotiation, so it tried to insert a software conversion filter to yuv444p16 before hwupload_cuda. Next in the chain is superscale_cuda - which doesn't support yuv444p16. superscale_cuda is a custom filter which we added, because at the time of the last release, the regular scale_cuda filter in ffmpeg wasn't able to do color conversion - which superscale_cuda can do (but not for this format). Meanwhile, scale_cuda is able to do color conversions as well, so this issue is a great reminder to replace superscale_cuda with scale_cuda now - for the next beta and 4.8 release. For the current release, we'll have to live with the automatic fallback to sw transcoding, though. Thanks for the detailed explanation, I'm also learning as we go, clear now. Hopefully OP's issue will get sorted with 4.8+ release. (I do sorely miss Support Vewer whilst on board, going through the logs on mobile is DOH! ). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softworkz 3335 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, GrimReaper said: I do sorely miss Support Vewer whilst on board, going through the logs on mobile is DOH! A Windows tablet would do it - it has a mode for touch UI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReaper 3291 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, softworkz said: A Windows tablet would do it - it has a mode for touch UI Nice. Though Android fanboy through-and-through here, guess I'm out of luck then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softworkz 3335 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, GrimReaper said: Nice. Though Android fanboy through-and-through here, guess I'm out of luck then. It's not portable. Remote Desktop to a win machine would work... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReaper 3291 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, softworkz said: It's not portable. Remote Desktop to a win machine would work... Which unfortunately ain't quite convenient due to my particular circumstances and networks, which are completely separate - not different subnets but completely different networks (my mobile - and my only means of getting online - connected to vessel's business network and going to the internet via satellite through dedicated app, and my Win PC hosting my server - connected to my private LAN, portable router and few APs). 90% of the time I'm out of range of my own LAN, and even if I weren't - I reckon constant switching networks on mobile just to RDP into my PC would get old pretty fast. Edited March 11, 2023 by GrimReaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softworkz 3335 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 16 minutes ago, GrimReaper said: Which unfortunately ain't quite convenient due to my particular circumstances and networks, which are completely separate - not different subnets but completely different networks (my mobile - and my only means of getting online - connected to vessel's business network and going to the internet via satellite through dedicated app, and my Win PC hosting my server - connected to my private LAN, portable router and few APs). 90% of the time I'm out of range of my own LAN, and even if I weren't - I reckon constant switching networks on mobile just to RDP into my PC would get old pretty fast. Starlink or classic satellite connection? In the former case, a cloud desktop might be feasible, but surely not in the latter (latency). I was about to suggest carrying a Windows laptop or putting it under your seat, share the sat connection to it and RDP into it - but that's a nonsense idea as you could also use the laptop directly then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReaper 3291 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 minute ago, softworkz said: Starlink or classic satellite connection? Neither. INMARSAT, marine satellites. I'm on board a merchant vessel, in case you forgot. And any hooking up laptop to vessel's business network is out of equation, as I cannot open any ports nor have any kind of network control, hence my server is unreachable by anyone - whole reason why I put up my own private LAN around the Vessel - and don't believe IT dept. in Head Office would be too thrilled if I started hacking their network (gotta think about my day job, you know ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softworkz 3335 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 28 minutes ago, GrimReaper said: INMARSAT I know INMARSAT for satellite telephony - and for being expensive... Probably that's why they're restrictive about devices to connect? Anyway - I hope you'll be back soon and I'm happy to hear that you find it hard to live without the support app because that's how I felt even before I made it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReaper 3291 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, softworkz said: and for being expensive... Oh, you don't wanna know. Exorbitant prices. But as with any other monopolistic company, it's either that or no connection at all - so you just try to control yourself. 13 minutes ago, softworkz said: I hope you'll be back soon Thanks, unfortunately not for a few months more, I reckon early-mid June. 13 minutes ago, softworkz said: I'm happy to hear that you find it hard to live without the support app because that's how I felt even before I made it It's an awesome tool - even though I didn't fully appreciate it until being forced to scroll through xy logs every day on mobile phone screen (server log is a story - or better phrased: torture - for itself ) - NOT an experience to recommend. Edited March 12, 2023 by GrimReaper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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