Another Metadata Question...

[scb99 194]

Hi, I have a question regarding the Title Tower of the First Born, it's got 2 episodes

Its IMDB id is tt14404784

Its TB DB id is 86892

I have my series metadata in order OMDB, TVDB, the Movie DB

When I try to identify in Emby with either the IMDB id or the TVDB id, I get nothing

If I go to OMDB and try the IMDB id directly I get 

{"Response":"False","Error":"Error getting data."}

So I guess my question is,

(1) what does this "Error getting data" mean? I guess that's causing my problem?

(2) how to handle this situation? I tried temporarily moving TVDB to number 1, but that didn't fix it.

Thanks for any help! Steve

[rodainas 188]

1 minute ago, scb99 said:

Hi, I have a question regarding the Title Tower of the First Born, it's got 2 episodes

Its IMDB id is tt14404784

Its TB DB id is 86892

I have my series metadata in order OMDB, TVDB, the Movie DB

When I try to identify in Emby with either the IMDB id or the TVDB id, I get nothing

If I go to OMDB and try the IMDB id directly I get 

{"Response":"False","Error":"Error getting data."}

So I guess my question is,

(1) what does this "Error getting data" mean? I guess that's causing my problem?

(2) how to handle this situation? I tried temporarily moving TVDB to number 1, but that didn't fix it.

Thanks for any help! Steve

AFAIK omdb only works for movies.

[scb99 194]

That can't be my issue though, because if I use other TV series IMDB id's in "Identify" they work fine. Just this one doesn't.

[ebr 14959]

53 minutes ago, scb99 said:

Its IMDB id is tt14404784

If  you look on thetvdb web site, does it properly show that as its IMDb ID?

[scb99 194]

@ebrThat's interesting, it's got a different imdb id tt0211396 which is the italian version of the same program. And yes, it works if I use that id instead. Thanks!

(But why didn't it work when I used the TV DB id directly?)

 

Edited June 3, 2022 by scb99

[Luke 37261]

2 hours ago, scb99 said:

 

(But why didn't it work when I used the TV DB id directly?)

 

In order for us to answer that, please see: 

 

Thanks !

[scb99 194]

Hi @Luke Will this do  

Cheers

embyserver.txt

[Luke 37261]

Is tvdb your highest priority fetcher on the library?

[scb99 194]

Hi Luke

no

on this library I have fetchers:

Series  metadata in order:

OMDB, TVDB, the Movie DB

season Metadata theMoviedb

episode Metadata in order:

TVDB, OMDB, the Movie DB

i can remember that I came to this setup after quite a bit of trial and error

 

 

 

 

[Luke 37261]

Then that's the reason for the issue. You plug in the tvdb id, but Omdb can't look up using that so it switches to looking up by name or whatever other criteria you enter that it does support.

[scb99 194]

Ok I know I’m going down a rabbit hole now but then

(1) I dont understand why changing the imdb id to the one used by tvdb solved the problem? Or does omdb share by coincidence the same data with tvdb?

(2) I didnt put any other crieria in except the tvdb id, so I would assume that omdb returns failure so Emby would then drop down to the next provider which is tvdb?

Edited June 3, 2022 by scb99

[visproduction 125]

On 6/3/2022 at 1:20 PM, scb99 said:

so Emby would then drop down to the next provider

scb99, I think you are justifying in your mind, as if you are connecting water pipes or plugging in electric cords.  Code does not handle every possible situation very easily. 

If you made a list of all the possible errors using 3 dbase lookups in different priorities, you try to to write code that handles most situations.  Omdb also has code that handles errors and perhaps their error handling for an unknown number moves to request imeediately to the title.  So, to avoid that, you would have to write code that check if Omdb fails on a number code lookup, to immediately cancel and try the next dbase. That would mean two data submissions.  That is not ideal.

 

 

[scb99 194]

Dear @visproduction I don‘t really know what you are trying to say…

I‘m not trying to justify anything… I don‘t think… Just trying to clearly understand the rules.

So what is the purpose of having a 1-2-3 for series metadata if 2 and 3 are not used (which of course involves a second query)?

 

 

[Luke 37261]

On 6/3/2022 at 4:20 PM, scb99 said:

Ok I know I’m going down a rabbit hole now but then

(1) I dont understand why changing the imdb id to the one used by tvdb solved the problem? Or does omdb share by coincidence the same data with tvdb?

 

Probably because Omdb has this imdb id as well.

[Luke 37261]

On 6/3/2022 at 4:20 PM, scb99 said:

 

(2) I didnt put any other crieria in except the tvdb id, so I would assume that omdb returns failure so Emby would then drop down to the next provider which is tvdb?

Right now only the first provider is used for the Identify feature, in order to have the result be consistent with what you would get from a metadata refresh.

[scb99 194]

Thanks Luke

[Happy2Play 8356]

On 6/3/2022 at 4:59 AM, scb99 said:

Its IMDB id is tt14404784

Well there are issues here as Mini Series and TV Movie sometimes conflict.  Your 2 episode version technically does not exist as TV on TVDB or TMDB as they have it as a Movie.

 

[Happy2Play 8356]

Follow up:

On 6/3/2022 at 6:11 AM, scb99 said:

But why didn't it work when I used the TV DB id directly?

First question would be what the library content type as the query is specific to type and this example would vary as mentioned above.

/series/86892 (doesn't exist as TV)

/movie/86892

 

[scb99 194]

My library type is mixed

if I query on an id, does it restrict that id to what it thinks is the „right“ type (Movie, Tv) then? 

[Happy2Play 8356]

2 minutes ago, scb99 said:

My library type is mixed

if I query on an id, does it restrict that id to what it thinks is the „right“ type (Movie, Tv) then? 

Have never looks but am guessing auto detection will limit to one or the other.  Logs show the provider queries.

[scb99 194]

6 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

Have never looks but am guessing auto detection will limit to one or the other.  Logs show the provider queries.

Hi @Happy2Play OK actually from my side I'm happy to leave it there tbh. Luke answered my main question which is why it doesn't drop through to the next content provider - I get this point (though I'm not 100% convinced it's the right approach - but it would need more thought...)

The original weirdness was caused by there being 2 different IMDB id's for the same program, that's something to bear in mind for the future.

Thanks for everyone's help on such a small problem! But, it's always good to learn.

[Luke 37261]

16 hours ago, scb99 said:

My library type is mixed

if I query on an id, does it restrict that id to what it thinks is the „right“ type (Movie, Tv) then? 

Based on the current detected type based on the library, yes.