Renaming Movie, thubnails extraction.

[RedWings 15]

Hello,

I need some help on my quest to the "never miss-match movie again"

To complite my quest I have setup Radarr to create nfo when the movie is detected/imported.

But that don't work as expexted.

Now i have a new idea, delete radarr nfo creation and let emby handle it.

But to do that i need to set the tmdbid in the file name like said in the naming documentation.

I have to rename all my files but in the documentation it's specified to name like that.

movie (2010) [tmdbid=100].mkv

My files right now are always named like :

movie (2010) [HD-1080].mkv

movie (2010) [Ultra-HD].mkv

I store them like that because i store 2 quality in separated folder to manage access of it in emby.

Can i rename my movie like :

movie (2010) [tmdbid=100] [HD-1080].mkv

mobile (2010) [tmdbid=100] [Ultra-HD].mkv

And last question I have activated thubnails extraction. Renaming the movies will reset all the done extraction and extract them again ?

(I'm in the drive this parts make me little nervous , it will take about 1 month)

Edited May 24, 2022 by RedWings

[Luke 37259]

HI, why do you need the tmdbid in the file name?

[RedWings 15]

Did you remember me ? I'm the duplicate collection man.

Runinng my script to delete the set node from the nfo take a long time ( and radarr fills it with every scan)

And i need to link my movie with tmdbid because emby missmatch some movie.

Edited May 24, 2022 by RedWings

[K22R8CT 24]

Radarr (and Sonarr) on upgrade often delete the emby-created NFO.

Workaround here. Good luck.

Looks like this was a bug which has been fixed. Previously deleting the NFO file would cause Emby to recognize the associated media as new content.

Edited May 26, 2022 by Anon28109

[RedWings 15]

@Luke

I have configured raddar to name file like :

movie (2000) [tmdbid=10] [HD-1080].mkv

Can you guarented me double [ ] won't break anything ? 

I have tested with 1 movie, it worked properly but I don't want to rename 2k+ media and getting errors due to the double [ ] 

Edited May 24, 2022 by RedWings

[Happy2Play 8356]

15 minutes ago, RedWings said:

@Luke

I have configured raddar to name file like :

movie (2000) [tmdbid=10] [HD-1080].mkv

Can you guarented me double [ ] won't break anything ? 

I have tested with 1 movie, it worked properly but I don't want to rename 2k+ media and getting errors due to the double [ ] 

Are movies in their own named folders or do you have a flat no folder media?

If media is in there own same named folders, filename is irrelevant as foldername is used.

[Luke 37259]

19 minutes ago, RedWings said:

@Luke

I have configured raddar to name file like :

movie (2000) [tmdbid=10] [HD-1080].mkv

Can you guarented me double [ ] won't break anything ? 

I have tested with 1 movie, it worked properly but I don't want to rename 2k+ media and getting errors due to the double [ ] 

I would think that should be fine.

[Happy2Play 8356]

Actually, only time movie filename is relevant is for server automatic multi-versioning or flat media structure.

Edited May 24, 2022 by Happy2Play

[RedWings 15]

MOVIE/HD/Movie (2010)/Movie (2010) [HD-1080].mkv 
MOVIE/UHD/Movie (2010)/Movie (2010) [Ultra-HD].mkv

That's how i store my media.

If i understand correctly, emby is based on folder name and not only file name (Use folder name if only 1 version found)?

Then I need to add id of tmdb in folder name too. Could be more difficult.

Edited May 24, 2022 by RedWings

[Happy2Play 8356]

5 minutes ago, RedWings said:

MOVIE/HD/Movie (2010)/Movie (2010) [HD-1080].mkv 
MOVIE/UHD/Movie (2010)/Movie (2010) [Ultra-HD].mkv

That's how i store my media.

If i understand correctly, emby is based on folder name and not only file name (Use folder name if only 1 version found)?

Then I need to add id of tmdb in folder name too. Could be more difficult.

Correct 

• Movie (2010) [tmdbid=xxxxxx]
  •  abcefg.mkv (filename is irrelevant as id will come from foldername)

 

 

[elpoolet 20]

Hi

To be sure all movies are well identified I'm used to name my movies like : 

a folder ith the movie name : Uncharted - (2022) - [tmdbid=335787]

And the files

• Uncharted - (2022) - [tmdbid=335787] - 4k hevc.mkv
• Uncharted - (2022) - [tmdbid=335787] - h264 5M.mkv
• Uncharted - (2022) - [tmdbid=335787] - h264 8M.mkv
• Uncharted - (2022) - [tmdbid=335787] - vp9 2M.mkv

 

So, when I'm on the interface, I can choose what version I play.

 

The only annoying thing is when I have to move some media from a folder to another (due to space limitations), I'm not able to keep metadata and extracted thumbnails....

[Happy2Play 8356]

7 minutes ago, elpoolet said:

The only annoying thing is when I have to move some media from a folder to another (due to space limitations), I'm not able to keep metadata and extracted thumbnails....

Yes if not saved with media the item is removed from database when moved and readded causing the corresponding /metadata/libary/xx/xxxxxxxxxxxxxx folder deleted and regenerated with new id.

Only way around this is manually updating the database with new path for item so it isn't removed and readded, or save everything with media.

[RedWings 15]

Hi,

I finished renaming my media, everything went well and everything is perfectly detected.

As said above, my thumbnails have disappeared.

But I still have my Emby-Server folder which weighs 40GB+.

Are these thumbnails cached?

[elpoolet 20]

19 minutes ago, RedWings said:

Hi,

I finished renaming my media, everything went well and everything is perfectly detected.

As said above, my thumbnails have disappeared.

But I still have my Emby-Server folder which weighs 40GB+.

Are these thumbnails cached?

The thumbnail cache folder size is quite big.

If in your library configuration you choose the 10 second interval for thumbnail generation, the process is quite long and the occupied space is also quite big.

In the Advanced configuration on the Media Library General configuration , you can choose a metadata folder path wich can be on another disk.

The URL is : http://yourserver.local/web/index.html#!/librarysetup/advanced.html

FYI, I generate thumbnails at 10 seconds interval for all my libraries.
the metadata path size is : 35+Gb and more than 80.000 files
the emby-programdata path size is around 1Gb for 25.000+ files

My libraries size is : 

 - 20+ documentaries
 - 5100+ series episodes
 - 3000+ animes movies
 - 1000+ film files

So, depending your library size, 40Gb isn't surprizing....

[elpoolet 20]

and in the "scheduled tasks", you may have "Thumbnail Generation" so, the thumbnails are not created when the "update library" process is done, but after...

 

[RedWings 15]

7 minutes ago, elpoolet said:

So, depending your library size, 40Gb isn't surprizing....

What surprises me is that I have no more thumbnails. (The time to finish generating them again following the renaming of the films) So the size of the folder should have been reduced considerably.

I still have the series and the animated ones so maybe they take up 40GB.

Edited May 25, 2022 by RedWings

[elpoolet 20]

4 minutes ago, RedWings said:

What surprises me is that I have no more thumbnails. (The time to finish generating them again following the renaming of the films) So the size of the folder should have been reduced considerably.

I still have the series and the animated ones so maybe they take up 40GB.

I have 2 questions : 

Where did you find this image "Media qualities" in Emby ? It would be very interesting for me !

Did you take a look at the emby server logs in order to check if the thumbnail generation is done or not, and if the metadata forlder is well purged ?

[RedWings 15]

It is an extension called: Statistics (It is in the store).

For once I have no idea if the thumbnails have been cleaned or not. I hope so.

And since I have my media in the drive, creating the thumbnails will take me a long time (Minimum 15 days)

[elpoolet 20]

2 minutes ago, RedWings said:

It is an extension called: Statistics (It is in the store).

For once I have no idea if the thumbnails have been cleaned or not. I hope so.

And since I have my media in the drive, creating the thumbnails will take me a long time (Minimum 15 days)

Thanks for the extension.

And for the thumbnails generation, you can modify the scheduled task in order to run it when you're not viewing your media and limit run time...
ie : start at 9AM for 3 hours max, the start at 2PM for 3 hours more and start at 11PM for 4 hours more....