MikeB111 48 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 It seems that Emby Theater saw a recent update that changed some behavior. I was wondering if anyone else has noticed that Pg-Up and Pg-Down no longer advance to the next or previous chapter when watching a video? I appreciate that I can access the chapters from the OSD, but skipping to the next chapter with a button press on my remote has been an important feature for me and it seems to no longer work. I'm not actually sure what Pg-Up and Pg-Down do now, they do skip forward and backwards, but not to the next chapter and not even by a fixed amount of time it seems. Can't figure it out, but it seems pretty random now. It seems to jump by about 7 minutes, but I'm not sure. Was the command changed for skipping to the next chapter and I missed it, or is this feature now broken? Anyone else notice this behavior? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37068 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Hi, yes I can reproduce this. We'll take a look at it. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB111 48 Posted April 2, 2022 Author Share Posted April 2, 2022 Just a quick note, this seems to be working correctly again. Thanks for getting it fixed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37068 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Thanks for the feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB111 48 Posted July 16, 2022 Author Share Posted July 16, 2022 Just checking in on this again. It seems to be broken again, PgUp and PgDwn do not seem to advance chapters any longer. I hope this is not a feature that is going away, i find it incredibly useful! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37068 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 7 hours ago, MikeB111 said: Just checking in on this again. It seems to be broken again, PgUp and PgDwn do not seem to advance chapters any longer. I hope this is not a feature that is going away, i find it incredibly useful! Mike Hi, can you please try it again? I just tested and page up/down seem to be working just fine during video playback to skip chapters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB111 48 Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share Posted July 17, 2022 Thanks for checking on this, I went back this morning and looked at this closer. I apologize, you are correct that the Pg-Up and Pg-Down commands do still work for advancing chapters. But it turns out that the reason I thought it wasn't working is that Emby does not seem to be recognizing chapters in any program added since about mid May. Just for a little more background, I use Emby for recording life TV, and I process each recording using MCEBuddy to identify commercials. It does not remove the commercials (it's not reliable enough for that in my opinion) but it does set chapter markers at the end of each commercial. So when I'm watching TV and a commercial starts I can just hit Pg-Up and it skips to the end of the commercial. This has been working great for a couple of years now, no change to my setup. I thought Pg-Up wasn't working anymore because it stopped skipping commercials. But it turns out that Emby is just not recognizing the chapters. If I open the video files in VLC it recognizes the chapters just fine. But any TV program added after like May 21 (approximately) does not show chapters in Emby. This is true for Emby Theater in Windows as well as when using Emby through a web browser. I did try and re-scan the library files, no change. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB111 48 Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share Posted July 17, 2022 Sorry, just one more bit of information. I just checked, and Emby is recognizing chapters in movies that I have recently added. So this seems to be an issue only with recorded TV programs. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37068 Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 Ok please try refreshing the metadata on one of those recordings and see if that helps. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB111 48 Posted July 31, 2022 Author Share Posted July 31, 2022 Looks like refreshing metadata on an episode does fix this so that Emby sees the chapters. Is there anything that can be done to make this automatic again? Prior to May this was automatic, so it seems that something changed. Is there a setting that I could adjust to make this behave the way it used to (where metadata was automatically refreshed when the video file changed)? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37068 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Hi, it's still automatic. Try refreshing the metadata on existing ones and then see if it happens again with new ones after that. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB111 48 Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 I just checked, it does not identify chapters on anything since May, to include new recordings this week. Recordings start out as .ts files with no chapters. When they're processed by MCEBuddy the chapters are marked and the file is saved into the same folder with the same filename, but with a .mkv extension instead of .ts extension. Refreshing metadata on these files manually will cause Emby to see the chapters, but without a manual refresh Emby does not see the chapters, although they are in the file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37068 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Right, those are the previous files. I would update to Emby Server 4.7.6 and then let's see what happens with a new file after that. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB111 48 Posted August 6, 2022 Author Share Posted August 6, 2022 I verified that I'm at 4.7.6, then updated meta data on the entire library, then waited for new programs to be recorded and processes. They still are not automatically being refreshed to recognize the chapters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37068 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Ok we're looking into why this isn't happening automatically for new recordings. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB111 48 Posted November 5, 2022 Author Share Posted November 5, 2022 Just wondering if you have discovered anything on this issue? Any chance for a fix in the next update? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37068 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 7 hours ago, MikeB111 said: Just wondering if you have discovered anything on this issue? Any chance for a fix in the next update? Thanks! Hi, it seems to work just fine in my testing. Can you please give it another try? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB111 48 Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 Nope, definitely still not working. Chapters are there in the file, but Emby does not seem to refresh the metadata automatically when they are added. I can manually refresh, but it does not auto refresh anymore (used to work just fine, stopped working in mid-May). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37068 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, MikeB111 said: Nope, definitely still not working. Chapters are there in the file, but Emby does not seem to refresh the metadata automatically when they are added. I can manually refresh, but it does not auto refresh anymore (used to work just fine, stopped working in mid-May). I thought we were talking about the page up/page down keys? Anyway that's what this topic has been about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB111 48 Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 Sorry for not being more clear, and thanks for the quick reply! You are right that the original post was about the Page up/down keys, and you all got that fixed very quickly. But then if you look at the posts after July 17 in this thread you'll recall that it morphed into an issue with Emby not refreshing metadata after a video file is changed. Specifically, I use MCEBuddy to add chapters to my recorded TV programs at the end of each commercial so that I can skip commercials with a single press of the page-up button. MCEBuddy is still working fine, chapters are being added, but Emby no longer seems to be automatically refreshing the file metadata to recognize those chapters. Playing the file in a different player (like VLC) shows that the chapters are there, but Emby does not see them unless I manually refresh metadata on the recording. Then they show up and pgUp works just fine. So now it's not a problem with PgUp, but a problem with automatically refreshing metadata. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37068 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Did you make sure to run a library scan after changing the file? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB111 48 Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 Shouldn't the update be automatic whenever the file is changed? That is what I understood from your previous reply in this thread, and it is how Emby used to work. For me this stopped automatically refreshing in the May timeframe, I assume associated with some update to Emby Server. Yes, I can manually refresh metadata and it'll see the chapters in the file, but why is this no longer happening automatically when the file changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37068 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 On 11/19/2022 at 6:54 PM, MikeB111 said: Shouldn't the update be automatic whenever the file is changed? That is what I understood from your previous reply in this thread, and it is how Emby used to work. For me this stopped automatically refreshing in the May timeframe, I assume associated with some update to Emby Server. Yes, I can manually refresh metadata and it'll see the chapters in the file, but why is this no longer happening automatically when the file changes? It should yes. I'm trying to chase down why it doesn't in some situations. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB111 48 Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 On 11/21/2022 at 4:39 PM, Luke said: It should yes. I'm trying to chase down why it doesn't in some situations. Thanks. Hey Luke, Just wondering if you've been able to identify why Emby Server is not automatically refreshing metadata when a recording file gets changed? I'm running the latest version of Server and do not see any change in this regard. I can manually update metadata, but it no longer updates automatically when the video file is updated (as happens when I scan the file using MCEBuddy to identify commercials and mark them with chapters). Any updates or suggestions appreciated! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37068 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, MikeB111 said: Hey Luke, Just wondering if you've been able to identify why Emby Server is not automatically refreshing metadata when a recording file gets changed? I'm running the latest version of Server and do not see any change in this regard. I can manually update metadata, but it no longer updates automatically when the video file is updated (as happens when I scan the file using MCEBuddy to identify commercials and mark them with chapters). Any updates or suggestions appreciated! Thanks! What do you mean by changed? What kind of change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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