TV Actors (sort of) duplicates

[CharleyVarrick 283]

Please note: I posted this originally in Kodi skin support section, AngelBlue, thinking it might be a Emby feature, suggested I post here instead

 

Sorry in advanced if this has been brought up already, I guess I did not find the proper key words...

 

In Kodi, I was browsing TV SHOWS/Actors when I noticed some appearing more than once, but followed with (Season x), eg:

Zachary Quinto

Zachary Quinto (Season 1)

 

If I select the later, it points me to American Horror Story season1

When I go in Emby/media/tv shows/American Horror Story and scroll down, I see the actor entry displayed with "Season 1".

 

What's causing this, is it Kodi, Emby, some scraper ?

Thanks!

[Luke 42083]

Certainly a scraper.

[CharleyVarrick 283]

I've browsed the Kodi Movie actors many times before, but it might just have been my first time doing so in TV actors.

I have to say I'm not impressed by this.

 

Trying to figure out how to merge those dupe actors...

[Happy2Play 9783]

What ever user that input the metadata on TVDB added "season x" to there name.  So it ends up creating duplicates.

 

Only way to merge the dups is by updating the series, season, episode metadata with proper name (without season x).  Best bet is update provider site so future refreshes correct the issue.

 

example issues

http://thetvdb.com/?tab=actors&id=250487

[Luke 42083]

Yea shame on whoever did that. That's really bad from the standpoint of having a people database.

[CharleyVarrick 283]

So far I found quite a few, but fortunately all related to only 2 tv series, American Horror Story and American Crime...same deal: http://thetvdb.com/?tab=actors&id=281613

Makes no senses whatsoever to do that.

 

They're already complaining about it on their own forum, https://forums.thetvdb.com/viewtopic.php?f=85&p=106993&sid=454857890f45c67cf38ae39f07a9a20b#p106993

Edited November 20, 2016 by jlr19

[Happy2Play 9783]

Well I see why someone would do it since TVDB does not have season level metadata like TMDB does.  The actor can not be listed more than onces so they modified the name to list them and there character for each season.  No too many series have the same actors become new characters every season.

Edited November 20, 2016 by Happy2Play

[CharleyVarrick 283]

Good news,

tvDB seemed to have cleaned up their act regarding this mess.

Actor names (season#) are not coming up anymore on emby server side.

To fix it on Kodi's side, from recent experience, we have to delete related nfo's (and make sure episodes are re-scrapped)

Edited January 11, 2017 by jlr19

[CharleyVarrick 283]

I might have spoken too soon, those goofy names followed by season # are not coming up, but proper actual tv show actor names aren't as well.

 

When in Emby server/media/tv show, if I select a tv show, I see "some" Cast & Crew, but it looks scarce, considering its a complete tv show.

If I select a season, no cast & crew (is this expected?)

If I select an episode, no Cast & Crew, or just Crew, although for a few show some Cast appears.

 

I notice results vary greatly from one show to the other, I could supply specific examples if needed

 

It is very likely to be (again) our friends over at tvDB that are causing those inconsistent results?

Edited January 11, 2017 by jlr19

[CharleyVarrick 283]

This might explain why I'm getting nothing as far as Season metadata:

TheMovieDB is the only provider for tv show Season

Shouldn't there be other choices there?

 

Edited January 11, 2017 by jlr19

[Luke 42083]

What choices do you expect?

[CharleyVarrick 283]

TVdb and TVmaze, or other tv-related scraper the name of which escape me at the moment

I do get that the movieDB does tv stuff  and movies...

 

It would be real nice if, from this Metadata/services screen, we would get access to all possible metadata downloaders and Image Fetchers choices, and then truly choose which we want as our #1. Right now, that choice has already been made on my behalf. 

[Luke 42083]

tvdb does not have season level metadata, neither does Omdb, other than images and we already have an option for that. What we could do instead is just remove all season metadata support so that you never have an opportunity to think that something is wrong.

[CharleyVarrick 283]

OK, so that answers my previous question "is it normal to have no (or very little) data at season level"

 

As for the episodes level, I've made a few spot-checks over at tvdb and it looks like the problem originates from over there

What got me confused for a while is Kodi was still giving me (what seemed like) complete Episode Cast list, while Emby didn't.

 

Not sure I understand the mechanics of it exactly but it must be "older" data that was deleted sometime ago (at tvdb), Kodi retained whatever it got back then, but Emby was later updated by tvdb, and as a result, shows less details. It has to be around those lines, as where would Kodi have picked those actors/characters name but from Emby.

[Happy2Play 9783]

@@Luke

 

Why doesn't Emby show season level Cast (Season Regulars)? 

 

 

 

 from the American Horror Story Season 2 json

 

{"cast":[{"character":"Kit Walker","credit_id":"5256ce6719c2956ff60860ea","id":55089,"name":"Evan Peters","profile_path":"/2a1XA1ynmbZZj2nauwsc03OzRB.jpg","order":5},{"character":"Sister Mary Eunice McKee","credit_id":"5256ce6719c2956ff6086114","id":4888,"name":"Lily Rabe","profile_path":"/5qTAKNY5zTBQlDjdAb2Nq1FOhNi.jpg","order":6},{"character":"Dr. Oliver Thredson","credit_id":"5256ce6719c2956ff6086166","id":17306,"name":"Zachary Quinto","profile_path":"/gSBxQWda0T67hrK3pNyqreRYoyw.jpg","order":8},{"character":"Dr. Arthur Arden","credit_id":"5256ce6719c2956ff60861fe","id":2505,"name":"James Cromwell","profile_path":"/tbpxLxuVunrNiVUJVORwgAZJQXl.jpg","order":9},{"character":"Lana Winters","credit_id":"5256ce6719c2956ff6086242","id":34490,"name":"Sarah Paulson","profile_path":"/gCVI71Pt4AWAKHRhSXaowJd6EcO.jpg","order":10},{"character":"Monsignor Timothy Howard","credit_id":"5256ce6819c2956ff6086362","id":12763,"name":"Joseph Fiennes","profile_path":"/qbGRmhRN3f2prrgcTDmBGAa46Qd.jpg","order":14},{"character":"Grace Bertrand","credit_id":"5256ce6819c2956ff608638c","id":84432,"name":"Lizzie Brocheré","profile_path":"/hfiVh3DJk3IjxQkoAl3YphtHgeq.jpg","order":15},{"character":"Sister Jude","credit_id":"528eead419c2955c9c035c08","id":4431,"name":"Jessica Lange","profile_path":"/hC862LK6M6mMcCnhOzIyfvTmQk4.jpg","order":26}]