Latest Media Splitting Multiple Versions

[Kowcop 0]

I split my UHD movies from HD (different folders)

Before this release, the home screen 'Latest Media' section would treat multi-version movies as a single entity, but as of 4.10.0.40, the multiple versions are split. They require their own poster, and they also have their own metadata.. ie the UHD version 'date added' field is different to the HD version. So for example, if I have two movies

/mnt/movies/UHD/movie1.mkv
/mnt/movies/HD/movie1.mkv

The home screen now sees them as two separate movies. If I add a UHD version to a movie that already had a HD version, the latest movies section on the home shows the UHD as 'new'. Previously it respected the original HD version's date added metadata

I am just wondering if this is by design, as it has broken a lot

It 'feels' like when using the multiple versions, the previous version of Emby used the originaly added versions metadata, where this version now uses individual metadata

 

Edited Monday at 07:11 AM by Kowcop
added line at the end

[Luke 43109]

@Kowcop

HI there, can you please provide a specific example?

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Are you sure they're actually joined?

Thanks !

 

[Kowcop 0]

I can give you some more info, but I suspect you have fixed the functionality of a previous bug that I was leveraging. I suspect this because Movies acted differently to TV Series (TV series works like Movies has changed to).  I can spell it out for you like this

Previous Version :

1. In 2025, I add a movie /mnt/movies/HD/Space Movie (1977)/Space Movie (1977) - HD.mkv. I also add poster.jpg in the same folder
2. I add another 50 movies or so
3. In 2026, I add a movie /mnt/movies/UHD/Space Movie (1977)/Space Movie (1977) - 4K.mkv (no poster in this folder)
4. Home screen doesn't show 'Space Movie' in Latest Releases as the original 'Space Movie' was added last year and it doesn't think anything has changed
5. Everything works happily, movies are joined as when I got to the play screen, they both show as options I can select from the version dropdown.

Current Version :

Today after I install 4.10.0.40, recent additions of UHD movies that had an older 'HD' version show in 'Latest <Library>' section on the homepage, and they all have no poster showing. They are just black boxes. If I right click one of these and view metadata, it shows it is the UHD version in the path at the top. If I add a poster to the UHD movie folder and scan files, the poster then appears

So it is basically seeing each version in updates where previously it used the original versions metadata on the home page in Latest <Library>

Unless this is identified as a bug, I just wrote a bash file which updated the 'dateadded' metadata field to be the same as 'release date'. If you would like a suggestion, it would be handy to allow the user to change the field used in 'Latest Releases' to be 'Release Date'

 

[ebr 16715]

7 hours ago, Kowcop said:

it would be handy to allow the user to change the field used in 'Latest Releases' to be 'Release Date'

Hi.  "Latest Releases" already does this.  It is "Latest Media" that uses the Emby added date.

In the library in question, what is this set to?

[Luke 43109]

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• Home screen doesn't show 'Space Movie' in Latest Releases as the original 'Space Movie' was added last year and it doesn't think anything has changed

Latest Releases is based on release date info, not date added. Latest media is based on date added.

[Luke 43109]

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• In 2025, I add a movie /mnt/movies/HD/Space Movie (1977)/Space Movie (1977) - HD.mkv. I also add poster.jpg in the same folder
• I add another 50 movies or so
• In 2026, I add a movie /mnt/movies/UHD/Space Movie (1977)/Space Movie (1977) - 4K.mkv (no poster in this folder)

Are these two folders in the same library?

[Kowcop 0]

Yes they are in the same library .. I have a Library called Sci-Fi, and I add the two folders, one from UHD and one from HD. I do this so I can add only the HD folders to users with external access (so I am not transcoding unnecessarily).. The movies are still joined. The easiest way to replicate this is to

1. install the old version,
2. create two folders, one called HD and one called UHD
3. Add them both to a library
4. In the HD folder, add a movie folder which includes the movie like 'moviename - HD.mkv or mp4', a poster.jpg and the do a file scan. View the result which should be as expected
5. Edit the metadata and make the date added 2025 sometime
6. Add a second movie using above process, but make the date added metadata to be sometime in early 2026
7. Add a second version of the first movie you added to the UHD folder, 'moviename - 4K.mkv or mp4', but no poster and do a filescan

What you will notice is that the movie without the poster still has a poster showing in Latest <Library> on the homepage, you will see it is indeed joined as you can see it in the dropdown, but you will also see that it is still 'older' in the latest section.. ie. it hasnt detected the UHD as being newer than the second movie that had the 2026 date

Then upgrade to the newest version, you will now see the 4K version sitting to the left on the homepage (Latest), and it will have no poster.

But seriously, if this is how it 'should' work, I would prefer to work around it then have someone spend time on it.

Edited Monday at 08:08 PM by Kowcop
fix typo

[Kowcop 0]

4 hours ago, ebr said:

Hi.  "Latest Releases" already does this.  It is "Latest Media" that uses the Emby added date.

In the library in question, what is this set to?

I mean the movie release date.

When someone is looking at my library, I would like them to see the latest (newest) movies out, not some random 1980s movie I thought I might want to watch one day or something I found a better copy of. It is just a suggestion

[Luke 43109]

Can you show screenshot examples to demonstrate your issue?

[ebr 16715]

23 hours ago, Kowcop said:

When someone is looking at my library, I would like them to see the latest (newest) movies out, not some random 1980s movie I thought I might want to watch one day or something I found a better copy of

Then you want to use "Latest Releases" not "Latest Media".

[Kowcop 0]

9 hours ago, ebr said:

Then you want to use "Latest Releases" not "Latest Media".

Unless I am mistaken, 'Recently Released Movies' or 'Recently Released Episodes' is across the all libraries and combined into a single stream, where 'Latest Media' is per library. Movies is a bit problematic for me as I have a library for each genre. That said, it could be solved by adding a new item to your dropdown 'Date Added behaviour for new content' to be 'Date Released'. You already have that date in the database, so I am just assuming you can just pass that to whatever you are using for sort order

Edited 4 hours ago by Kowcop
typo

[Luke 43109]

23 minutes ago, Kowcop said:

Unless I am mistaken, 'Recently Released Movies' or 'Recently Released Episodes' is across the all libraries and combined into a single stream, where 'Latest Media' is per library. Movies is a bit problematic for me as I have a library for each genre. That said, it could be solved by adding a new item to your dropdown 'Date Added behaviour for new content' to be 'Date Released'. You already have that date in the database, so I am just assuming you can just pass that to whatever you are using for sort order

It doesn’t have to be. The latest release lets you pick what libraries go into it.

[Kowcop 0]

2 hours ago, Luke said:

It doesn’t have to be. The latest release lets you pick what libraries go into it.

yes, but it is just a single 'row' where if I select Latest Media I see a row for every library

[Kowcop 0]

Here are some screenshots... This is just one library. The structure is like this

movies
  - HD
      - Disaster
          - Movie (year)
              - movie (year) - HD.mkv
              - poster.jpg
  - UHD
      - Disaster
          -  Movie (year)
              - movie (year) - 4K-HDR.mkv

Then I have a library
Disaster and I add the /HD/Disaster and /UHD/Disaster to it

It joins the files perfectly as shown in join.png

I have since added a few 4K movies to my library, and after the upgrade (as shown in 4.10.png), it now has the new 4K files showing as latest additions and no poster. If I add a poster to the folder and scan files, they appear fine

In summary, 4.10 treats the newly added 4K files as their own entry in 'Latest' where in 4.9 they were ignored and seen as an addition to the original HD version. They are still joined, just the metadata seems to be reflected.

As mentioned, I think I have been leveraging a previous bug and I honestly dont care if you just accept this is how it should be as I will work around it, I am just pointing out this upgrade changed things.