Roku - can we still change the default tab?

[ZanderKeen 85]

I have a Roku device that I used to be able to change the default tab when you open the "movies" or "TV Shows" folder from My Media to Genres instead of always opening in Suggestions. Is that still possible with the new version ? Am I missing something? I have it working fine on all the other platforms... Anyone? @ebr

[ebr 16704]

Hi.  It would only always open in Suggestions if that's where you were last in that library.  It will remember the tab you were on when you last used that library.

[pwhodges 2101]

They have for some reason removed the ability to set a default tab on the Roku.  Now, if you happen to visit another tab, then next time it will take you there and you have to navigate back to the one you normally want.  It's not hard, but it's out of line with the other clients (unless they plan to change them all!), and just that bit less convenient than it used to be.

Paul

[Luke 43096]

6 hours ago, pwhodges said:

They have for some reason removed the ability to set a default tab on the Roku.  Now, if you happen to visit another tab, then next time it will take you there and you have to navigate back to the one you normally want.  It's not hard, but it's out of line with the other clients (unless they plan to change them all!), and just that bit less convenient than it used to be.

Paul

Yes it is something we've talked about and we're using Roku to test the waters.

[Neminem 1902]

3 hours ago, Luke said:

Yes it is something we've talked about and we're using Roku to test the waters.

Please stop this nonsense

[ebr 16704]

8 hours ago, Neminem said:

Please stop this nonsense

This has been out for a while and very few people have even noticed.  I really think that most people utilize one tab 90% of the time in the libraries so returning there works.  We'll continue to monitor (knowing full well, the only people who will tell us anything will be the ones that don't like it).

[ZanderKeen 85]

2 hours ago, ebr said:

This has been out for a while and very few people have even noticed.  I really think that most people utilize one tab 90% of the time in the libraries so returning there works.  We'll continue to monitor (knowing full well, the only people who will tell us anything will be the ones that don't like it).

Ok thanks for the responses.

I typically use the Linux app on my personal TVs (gaming-pc's) & apple TVOS for my living-room, guest-room & family-room so those don't function this same way, but the garage uses roku which is a shared TV so for us this new feature is not liked and we would vote against it if given the option to choose methods.

I also have 1 remote family member using Roku and she also mentioned this issue to me as well. She goes between Genres & Movies often but would prefer it to open in Genres as default personally for her. 

Thanks

[Tremas 213]

As a regular Roku user, I have noticed but not said anything. I gave it a chance, but much prefer the ability to set what area is presented first on each library. 

[ebr 16704]

Just some background on why we are considering this:

• The configuration is complex and somewhat hidden.  This alone tells us that the majority of people never discover it or use it and the new method will actually be a benefit for them because they will now go back to where they were before automatically instead of always going to "Suggestions" at the start.
• Again, the configuration for this (at least in all the other apps) is overly complex and muddled and we are moving towards the ability to customize exactly which tabs are available in each library which will complicate it even more.
• Returning to where you were before is a pretty common method of operation in most situations.

 

[Tremas 213]

Thanks @ebr. I understand the reasoning, but just giving you my user feedback.. Other users who aren't actively managing the system my have better experience. 

[ZanderKeen 85]

4 hours ago, ebr said:

• we are moving towards the ability to customize exactly which tabs are available in each library

Oh so that would allow me to remove suggestions, trailers & folders tabs for a library then?

I noticed with my elderly family members, for example, when they open the movies media folder, if it puts them in the Suggestions tab, they CONSTANTLY assume that is ALL the movies there are, then they contact me asking where all the movies went... And if they accidentally moved over to the Folders tab and then had that opening every time without realizing the tab needs to be changed to something else, I can see that REALLY confusing them .

I also don't have trailers setup so that tab has always been empty wasted space for us. 

I will be interested in seeing how this plays out in the end if that is the case. 

Thanks

edit: Just thinking, if thats the case, maybe something I would do with my more "technology-challenged" family is create a mirrored library for movies just for them that would have limited tabs on top, and leave the main library tabs alone for everyone else then just control which of the two libraries each person would get using the user access settings.

Edited 23 hours ago by ZanderKeen
Additional thought

[pwhodges 2101]

18 hours ago, ebr said:

we are moving towards the ability to customize exactly which tabs are available in each library which will complicate it even more.

If you do that, it would surely be natural to include a flag at the same point to specify the landing tab.

And taming internal complication into operational simplicity is simply the job of a programmer (I know - I spent my working life doing just that).

Paul

Edited 9 hours ago by pwhodges

[ebr 16704]

23 hours ago, ZanderKeen said:

Oh so that would allow me to remove suggestions, trailers & folders tabs for a library then?

Correct and, yes, per user.

[ebr 16704]

9 hours ago, pwhodges said:

If you do that, it would surely be natural to include a flag at the same point to specify the landing tab

Or just allow you to re-order them and then you can put the one you want in front... then we eliminate the setting and the remember behavior.