Emby Not recording series - using wrong date

[Landoman 24]

Emby Version 4.9.5.0
When recording a radio program it is using the original AIR DATE and not the episode date for the recording. This means its been overwriting all shows.

Original air date: 14 May 2018
2018-05-14 - 1.ts

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="yes"?>
<episodedetails>
  <aired>2018-05-14</aired>
  <dateadded>2026-09-07 13:00:05</dateadded>
  <year>2018</year>
  <plot></plot>
  <genre>Talk</genre>
  <genre>Game Show</genre>
</episodedetails>

Edited yesterday at 01:53 PM by Landoman

[ebr 16676]

Hi.  Without any other information such as an episode number, the original air date would identify the episode.  Therefore, the same date would be the same episode...

[Landoman 24]

Shouldn't emby default to using the air date if no episode date?

I see that emby has, for some reason, set the air date to the start series date. 

Every single episode has the same air date.

Edited yesterday at 01:55 PM by Landoman

[Landoman 24]

I  have now checked other series.
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="yes"?>
<episodedetails>
  <title>The Pursuit</title>
  <aired>1981-01-01</aired>
  <episode>5</episode>
  <season>9</season>
  <dateadded>2026-09-08 14:56:23</dateadded>
  <year>1981</year>
  <mpaa>TV-G</mpaa>
  <plot>Jim-Bob, home on furlough, meets an old girlfriend (Jennifer Jason Leigh) claiming to be carrying his baby; Ben defies his captors.</plot>
  <genre>Drama</genre>
  <genre>Romance</genre>
</episodedetails>
 

Is there a reason there is no episode/other data for a radio program?

[Luke 43044]

13 minutes ago, Landoman said:

I  have now checked other series.
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="yes"?>
<episodedetails>
  <title>The Pursuit</title>
  <aired>1981-01-01</aired>
  <episode>5</episode>
  <season>9</season>
  <dateadded>2026-09-08 14:56:23</dateadded>
  <year>1981</year>
  <mpaa>TV-G</mpaa>
  <plot>Jim-Bob, home on furlough, meets an old girlfriend (Jennifer Jason Leigh) claiming to be carrying his baby; Ben defies his captors.</plot>
  <genre>Drama</genre>
  <genre>Romance</genre>
</episodedetails>
 

Is there a reason there is no episode/other data for a radio program?

hi, what other data would you like? where should it come from?

[Landoman 24]

I just recorded the same show with Windows media centre and it worked fine with the full name of the show. 



name of show + air date. 

I do not know why emby is not picking this up. It is the same tuner.  The air date is incorrect for some reason.

Emby = Matt and Mollie 2018-05-14 - 1

WMC = Matt and Mollie_BBC Radio 1_2026_09_08_12_58_00

 

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="yes"?>
<episodedetails>
  <aired>2018-05-14</aired>
  <dateadded>2026-09-07 13:00:05</dateadded>
  <year>2018</year>
  <plot></plot>
  <genre>Talk</genre>
  <genre>Game Show</genre>
</episodedetails>

Edited yesterday at 02:28 PM by Landoman

[ebr 16676]

Hi.  Your screen shot shows it as a repeat and with the same original air date as we did...

[Luke 43044]

Not picking what up? What are you defining as working fine 

[Landoman 24]

Ok there is obviously some communication issue here.
The screen shot shows a series which is being recorded. Why it says repeat I have no idea.

 

This shows the air date as 14 may 2018. It isnt.Teh air date is 8 Sep 13:00-15:30  BBC radio 1, channel 700.
Emby = Matt and Mollie 2018-05-14 - 1

WMC = Matt and Mollie_BBC Radio 1_2026_09_08_12_58_00

Windows media centre records the same show as Matt and Mollie_BBC Radio 1_2026_09_08_12_58_00

Why is it showing repeat in emby? Why does it not save the name and episode date correctly? If WMC gets the correct data is there something wrong with how emby is getting the listing data? or is there something wrong with the show data?

I have just tested this with another radio show. Same thing happens

JK and Kelly Brook 2019-01-07 

Margherita Taylor 2014-06-02

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="yes"?>
<tvshow>
  <uniqueid type="gracenote">16432217</uniqueid>
  <uniqueid type="zap2it">SH03137681</uniqueid>
  <title>JK and Kelly Brook</title>
</tvshow>

 

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="yes"?>
<tvshow>
  <uniqueid type="gracenote">10819666</uniqueid>
  <uniqueid type="zap2it">SH01932743</uniqueid>
  <title>Margherita Taylor</title>
</tvshow>

 

Edited 23 hours ago by Landoman

[Luke 43044]

@sa2000can report it to our guide data provider.

[Landoman 24]

It seems the guide data is incorrect for all radio shows

 

[Landoman 24]

I just changed the guide data from 

 

to 

 

and it works on now.

Going Home with Vick, Katie and Jamie on Radio 1 2026-02-17 - Can You Complete the Hardest Quiz on the Radio

 

Unfortunately all the other channels are wrong. Ill delete and re install the tuner and see what happens.

Edited 23 hours ago by Landoman

[sa2000 826]

45 minutes ago, Landoman said:

I just changed the guide data from

post code please - you can send by Private Message if you prefer

[Landoman 24]

After reinstalling tuner, guide data, changing providers and so on, it is related to some Radio radio channels.  Changing to completely different postcode makes no difference. Other radio channels work. Some radio channels work, others do not.

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="yes"?>
<tvshow>
  <uniqueid type="gracenote">10124408</uniqueid>
  <uniqueid type="zap2it">SH01776503</uniqueid>
  <title>Pre-match</title>
</tvshow>

Edited 21 hours ago by Landoman

[Landoman 24]

I should point out its only emby that is recording with the wrong data on some radio channels not windows media centre.

[sa2000 826]

17 hours ago, Landoman said:

I just changed the guide data from 

 

to 

 

and it works on now.

Is this using channel 700 in Local Over the Air Broadcast (OTA) and channel 181 in United Kingdom (extended) National Virtual ?

These are the channel numbers in the two lineups for BBC Radio 1

 

[sa2000 826]

In the examples that you showed in your screenshots

So we have:

"Radio 1's New Music Show with Jack Saunders" from channel 700 (BBC R1)

"The Capital Evening Show with Jimmy Hill" from channel 724 (Capital)

"Pre-Match" from channel 713 (BBC Radio London?)

and which of the airings recorded with the right filename when you switched to the United Kingdom (extended) National Virtual Lineup

When I compared the schedule and metadata from gracenote for BBC R1 (channel 700 on the Local Over the Air Broadcast lineip and channel 181 in the national lineup) - they were exactly the same - only difference being channel numbers. 

So can you please tell me which programs and airing times recorded with what you believe is the right filename when you switched to the national

I can see why the Jack Saunders would have the same filename - it is because the schedule has the airings as a series/show and not as episodes - so they will all have the same series file name - I would expect them to show as different versions - in the screenshot for this recording it shows two recording files - did you stop and restart the recording on the 8th september?   What setting do you have for checking if the airing is already in the library/libraries ? And is the issue that you are not getting them recorded as opposed to be being recorded and appearing as different versions?

What is the ID of the lineup that you are using - this shows in the Live TV Settings Setup screen - it will be GBR-XXXXXX

 

 

 

 

[Landoman 24]

Cross posts
 

1. jack saunders is NOT correct. It says 2024-05-13. channel 700 (BBC R1)
2. channel 724 (Capital) is correct. 
3. "which of the airings recorded with the right filename when you switched to the United Kingdom (extended) National Virtual Lineup"
   It was my mistake. I thought it had worked. It had not. I missed that the jack saunders was 2024 and not 2026.,
4. "I can see why the Jack Saunders would have the same filename - it is because the schedule has the airings as a series/show and not as episodes - so they will all have the same series file name - I would expect them to show as different versions - in the screenshot for this recording it shows two recording files - did you stop and restart the recording on the 8th september?  "
   Yes i stopped and started to test if it added -1 to the filename which it did.
5. "What is the ID of the lineup that you are using - this shows in the Live TV Settings Setup screen - it will be GBR-XXXXXX"
   
   United Kingdom [extended] [National Virtual]

 

 

I should have been clearer. I thought that by changing the guide data provider it had worked. It had not, I just used a different episode for the test. That particular episode  worked, the original radio channel did not work. WMC works fine and puts the date in.

Both can only use 1 guide data source. 

What should the series meta data downloaders be for the library? Right now they are all empty.




Emby

WMC 
Both did not work as the air date is 9 Sep 2026

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="yes"?>
<tvshow>
  <uniqueid type="gracenote">33871118</uniqueid>
  <uniqueid type="zap2it">EP06571521</uniqueid>
  <title>Charlie and Jerry</title>
</tvshow>

Emby appears to take the air date and make that the episode date.
WMC just takes the date and then the time of the program and puts it in the filename.

Air date 9 Sep 2026

Edited 4 hours ago by Landoman

[sa2000 826]

6 minutes ago, Landoman said:

Both did not work as the air date is 9 Sep 2026

The gracenote schedule shows the airings for Charlie and Jerry on BBC R1 for 8th to 17th September as being repeats of the 7th September aired episode. It changes for the airing of the 21st September when it is showing as different episode. Obviously this is wrong and I will refer it to Gracenote

13 minutes ago, Landoman said:

WMC just takes the date and then the time of the program and puts it in the filename

The time is only important for shows where they have different time based airings on the same day. It is a separate matter

14 minutes ago, Landoman said:

Both did not work as the air date is 9 Sep 2026

Can you expand on this sentence - Both: Which Both. Did not work: what happened

You are mixing channels above - please for each example you give, specify the channel number to make it easier to investigate

 

[sa2000 826]

13 minutes ago, sa2000 said:

The gracenote schedule shows the airings for Charlie and Jerry on BBC R1 for 8th to 17th September as being repeats of the 7th September aired episode. It changes for the airing of the 21st September when it is showing as different episode. Obviously this is wrong and I will refer it to Gracenote

This has now been referred to Gracenote

[sa2000 826]

14 minutes ago, sa2000 said:

You are mixing channels above - please for each example you give, specify the channel number to make it easier to investigate

sorry - your screenshots do show the channel numbers

[sa2000 826]

Each of these needs to be investigated and schedules checked

So far I have only looked into the BBC R1 schedules. I will need to look into each of the other examples to understand what has happened

Are the airings for New Music for Jackie Sanders all different - I will do some tests

 

36 minutes ago, Landoman said:

1. "What is the ID of the lineup that you are using - this shows in the Live TV Settings Setup screen - it will be GBR-XXXXXX"
   
   United Kingdom [extended] [National Virtual]

 

But this does not match the channel numbers - for example BBC R1 is 181 on this lineup and not 700. I suggest you stick with either the Freeview lineup for your city or the Local Over The Air Broadcast lineup for your post code.

 

[Landoman 24]

Some confusion due to cross posting, I am responding but at the same time you are posting so I will update. 
 

1. "The gracenote schedule shows the airings for Charlie and Jerry on BBC R1 for 8th to 17th September as being repeats of the 7th September aired episode. It changes for the airing of the 21st September when it is showing as different episode. Obviously this is wrong and I will refer it to Gracenote."
   
   Correct. None of these shows are repeats. They are all live.
    
2. "Both did not work as the air date is 9 Sep 2026"
   
   Charlie an Jerry should not be a repeat and the air date is 9 Sep 2026
   DJ Day Day Mix again is not a repeat and the air date is 9 Sep 2026.
   This is probably related to point 1.
    
3. "But this does not match the channel numbers - for example BBC R1 is 181 on this lineup and not 700."
   
   It's the channel number that is assigned by the tuner. If you check here:
   
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DTT_channels_in_the_United_Kingdom 
   
   You will see that BBC radio 1 is 700. I am not sure why it is set to 181 in the lineup.
   I have not changed the channel numbers. BBC Radio 1 has always been 700.

   
   
   
    

Edited 3 hours ago by Landoman

[ebr 16676]

3 hours ago, Landoman said:

WMC works fine and puts the date in

If you are actually talking about "Windows Media Center" how are you getting any guide data at all for that now?  I thought that was cut off years ago.

In any case, I believe that, you think it is "working fine" because it is not trying to determine if you already have any particular showing of any particular item already and is just happily recording duplicates.  We are using the guide data to avoid recording duplicates and, according to the guide data, this would be a duplicate.