Same recording keeps popping up

[sward 30]

Hello - I'm not sure which DB the recording scheduler uses, but for my metadata I use TVDB which apparently assigns different episode#'s to shows like American Experience and Frontline, and so even though I already have a particular recording, the scheduler doesn't realize this since there's a mismatch in the episode#, and so I will cancel some re-airing of a program, but it keeps just coming up the next day at a different time over and over again. Could we add something like "I already have this episode" or "never record this episode", instead of "cancel recording" which only cancels that one airing?

[ebr 16559]

2 hours ago, sward said:

Could we add something like "I already have this episode" or "never record this episode",

Hi.  We already have that.  The issue you are running into is there is no way for the system to know it is the same episode because, as you say, it is getting different episode numbers.

So, how would you tell it to not record it again when it pops up with a different identification later?

[sward 30]

The "later" could be years later, if ever, because you're counting on the episode being both renumbered (yet again) and being re-aired again, so for practical purposes there should be an option for "not interested in this episode" or "never record this episode."

[Luke 42826]

Hi, what guide data are you using?

[ebr 16559]

11 hours ago, sward said:

The "later" could be years later, if ever, because you're counting on the episode being both renumbered (yet again) and being re-aired again, so for practical purposes there should be an option for "not interested in this episode" or "never record this episode."

But, if it has a different episode number each time (which is what's causing the issue you are having), how do you identify "this" episode...?

[sward 30]

I'm using the Emby guide data. 

It's not a different episode each time, it's just different from what's in TVDB.

[Luke 42826]

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so for practical purposes there should be an option for "not interested in this episode" or "never record this episode."

Yes it's not a bad idea, but it would be based on what's in the guide, not tvdb.

[sward 30]

Totally agree, and that’s exactly what’s needed!

[sward 30]

Hello - any progress on this? Every day this week I've had to delete the American Experience documentary "The Vote" from my recording queue since I recorded it 6 years ago when it first aired, but which is apparently in heavy rotation this week. Maybe add an option for "I already have this."

[Luke 42826]

Hi, not yet sorry.

[Luke 42826]

We already have the option to not record episodes that are already in the library.

[sward 30]

As already stated, this recording is in my library but the season#/episode# for upcoming recordings doesn't always match the season#/episode# from TVDB which is what I use for my library. This seems to happen frequently with American Experience and Frontline episodes, although I have noticed it occasionally with other shows. This is why at one point I was advocating a file format that could contain all relevant metadata, but I digress...

[Luke 42826]

3 minutes ago, sward said:

This is why at one point I was advocating a file format that could contain all relevant metadata, but I digress...

Such as? There is nothing truly universal. Tvdb does not have anything to link to our guide data, and the guide data doesn't have any tvdb identifier.

Using the numbers is the closest available option. Using episode title is not sufficient as it will result in things happening in cases when they should not.

[sward 30]

Right, so given the occasional problems with season/episode mismatch, it would genuinely help if I could mark something as "already in my library."

[ebr 16559]

17 hours ago, sward said:

it would genuinely help if I could mark something as "already in my library."

Exactly what would you mark and when?

[sward 30]

So for example if I keep getting "The Vote" in my recording queue, there could be an option for "I already have this" in addition to the current "Cancel Recording" option, since canceling a recording doesn't prevent it from re-appearing the next day in my queue at a different recording time.

[ebr 16559]

2 hours ago, sward said:

So for example if I keep getting "The Vote" in my recording queue, there could be an option for "I already have this" in addition to the current "Cancel Recording" option, since canceling a recording doesn't prevent it from re-appearing the next day in my queue at a different recording time.

Right, but how will the system know it re-appeared?  The system is already NOT recording things that it can figure out you already have.  The problem here is that the data is saying this is a different episode than what you already have and you telling it that the first occurrence of that isn't what you want will have no effect on a future occurrence that has yet another episode number.

For example:

"The Vote" comes in with Season 1 ep 2 but already exists in your library as Season 1 ep 1.  You say, "I already have this". 

Two days later "The Vote" comes in as Season 1 ep 3 - there the system doesn't know this is the same as the S1E1 and S1E2 you said you already had.

Additionally, now some other actual episode comes in marked as S1E2 and now it doesn't record because you said you already had it - but you actually don't...

 

You see what I'm saying?  We already have the mechanism to not record dups - but the system has to know how to identify it as a dup...