Sort by Date Added: date scanned into library not honored

[Gryzor 27]

So I've set the "Date Added behavior for new content" to "use date scanned into library".

This is not honored when sorting, and the "date added" is the original file creation date.

Just to test I just downloaded Falling Down *after* changing the setting above, in case it only works for new content, but the movie still appears way down in my list. using the file creation date.

Any ideas?

Running the Unraid docker.

 

PS the whole thing with this option is horribly named. "file creation date" is definitely NOT "date added" and should probably be a whole different sorting option imo...

[GrimReaper 4739]

45 minutes ago, Gryzor said:

in case it only works for new content

It does only work for new content. 

46 minutes ago, Gryzor said:

Any ideas?

Have you pressed "Save" upon changing to "Date scanned" in Library>Advanced tab? It's frequent omission, just to be sure. 

Otherwise, exact example would be required. 

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[Neminem 1518]

Are you using Radarr ?

[Happy2Play 9780]

Yes, do you have existing nfo metadata with your media?

[Gryzor 27]

Sorry for the delay everyone, I was in physio.

Yes, I do work with Radarr. And I see that the nfo file for a movie I downloaded a couple of days ago has:

 <dateadded>2023-10-21 04:55:51</dateadded>

So I guess this was added by Sonarr?

[Neminem 1518]

What is the file added date in explora ?

[Gryzor 27]

Just now, Neminem said:

What is the file added date in explora ?

Jan 21st.

[Neminem 1518]

Try turning off Metadata creation in Radarr if that is enabled.

[Gryzor 27]

1 minute ago, Neminem said:

Try turning off Metadata creation in Radarr if that is enabled.

Good idea, especially since Kodi (which we also use) creates its own metadata...

[Neminem 1518]

Ohh ok, does Kodi place nfo files along side media files.

They might come from Kodi and not Radarr.

Edited January 23, 2025 by Neminem
Correcting

[Gryzor 27]

3 minutes ago, Neminem said:

Ohh ok, does Kodi place nfo files along side media files.

They might come from Kodi and not Radarr.

Damn you may be right. I'll disable the Radarr setting and test for the time being.

[Neminem 1518]

Nice

Keep us informed

[Gryzor 27]

Ok, just added a 2007 movie after disabling the Sonarr option (I haven't run Kodi to scrape it yet).

Appears at the top of the movie list. So... Yay I guess?

 

Marked 'solved'

Edited January 23, 2025 by Gryzor

[Neminem 1518]

Nice thanks for letting us know

[Gryzor 27]

5 minutes ago, Neminem said:

Nice thanks for letting us know

Thanks for the help! 

 

Still, I think the Emby options should be more intuitive, regardless of where the issue lied in this case...

[Neminem 1518]

Not sure i agree, it pretty well spelled out.

BUT nfo files always RULE 1 file to rule them all.

[Neminem 1518]

But this statement can be discussed 

"If a metadata value is present it will always be used before either of these options." as that would imply nfo files.

So changing that to 

"If a metadata nfo file is present it will always be used before either of these options. "

I guess this is developer language

Edited January 23, 2025 by Neminem

[Neminem 1518]

I do not have any influence in this, as I just another helpful user  

[Gryzor 27]

4 minutes ago, Neminem said:

Not sure i agree, it pretty well spelled out.

BUT nfo files always RULE 1 file to rule them all.

Well, it's pretty well spelled out - when you go into the options. If you don't then you're it wondering why on earth your sorting doesn't work. 

(Also I find the fact that it's well spelled out a bit irrelevant, it could be a sub-oprion saying "sort according to the spelling of the director's name in Taiwanese" and it could still be pretty well spelled out, yet still not relevant )

[Gryzor 27]

4 minutes ago, Neminem said:

But this statement can be discussed 

"If a metadata value is present it will always be used before either of these options." as that would imply nfo files.

So changing that to 

"If a metadata nfo file is present it will always be used before either of these options. "

I guess this is developer language

Yeah, if that existed this thread could've been avoided

[Neminem 1518]

And then again, some might yell a Emby for doing what it's told.

Without thinking about other programs doing what they where told.

I guess this is a "chicken or Egg" situation. 

[Gryzor 27]

3 minutes ago, Neminem said:

And then again, some might yell a Emby for doing what it's told.

Without thinking about other programs doing what they where told.

I guess this is a "chicken or Egg" situation. 

I'm afraid I didn't understand that?

[Neminem 1518]

Ok I your case :

1) Emby have some settings, and will use them, but only if there are no nfo files.

Emby can create nfo files and use those, in case on reinstall.

2) Other programs can create nfo files, and emby will use those, "knowing"  they are right, since a admin/user created them for Emby.

So who should be right, Emby or the program/user creating the nfo ?

Hence the chicken / egg. 

[Happy2Play 9780]

Well it is a grey area, but it comes back to Read options per library as if Emby did not read the already written nfo it would have honored "Date Added behavior for new content" setting as none would have existed.

So you have to decide if the existing metadata is correct or if you only want Emby to obtain it so ignore something that is already there per your Reader setting.

[Gryzor 27]

Ah I think I see what you both mean, yes. It certainly is tricky.

@Happy2Play, where is that option you have in your screenshot? Can't find it...