Create Hidden Collection?

[Smitty018210 143]

Hello, sorry if this has been asked before or dose not make sense....lol

I would like to create a collection, but not have it show up in the main collections tab. Is that possible?

I want to create a collection with a series of Movies, but then have a it nested within another collection, but I don't want that nested collection showing in the main list of collections. Dose that make sense?

Thanks for the help!

 

Edited August 25, 2024 by Smitty018210

[rbjtech 5284]

Nested collections (a collection of other collections) are no longer supported.  They used to be but unfortunately it's been on the emby 'to do' list for years now - so I would not expect to see it back in all honesty.    Yet another feature that once was and has been removed ..

Also despite collections having the ability to 'tag' on the metadata and the parental controls configured to not display items with this tag - emby totally ignores this and displays it anyway ..  

All you can do is sort the collection by name and name the collection 'aaa' or 'zzz' etc to place a collection at the start or end of the list - you cannot 'hide' it.

[Smitty018210 143]

2 hours ago, rbjtech said:

Nested collections (a collection of other collections) are no longer supported.  They used to be but unfortunately it's been on the emby 'to do' list for years now - so I would not expect to see it back in all honesty.    Yet another feature that once was and has been removed ..

Also despite collections having the ability to 'tag' on the metadata and the parental controls configured to not display items with this tag - emby totally ignores this and displays it anyway ..  

All you can do is sort the collection by name and name the collection 'aaa' or 'zzz' etc to place a collection at the start or end of the list - you cannot 'hide' it.

Crap, that really sucks. I knew that we could do this a long time ago, but wasn't sure if it was still possible. Glad I didn't waste any time on it then.

Yeah Emby team has a bad habit of removing functionally from this product. ( I don't even have theater installed anymore after all the UI changes in the spring)

Edited August 25, 2024 by Smitty018210

[lexisdude 145]

There are other options. Such as giving the files a +tag in its metadata and using parental controls so that those users with them on cannot see that content with your +tag as long as you set up the restrictions. The second answer would be to create a library and then only give library access to those that you want to give it to. In the users - (select user), access, then untick the Enable access to all libraries and untick those libraries you want hidden from that particular user you are editing. I use the latter to keep my kids out of the adult section because it's just one and done, rather than tagging each file with a flag. 

I do not think that the person that said tagging does not work is accurate, because it works for me. But, it is far more risky than just removing access to particular libraries for each user - simply because you might not tag your file(s) right or forget to tag something and then it shows up.

Plus, mpaa ratings are not always right, and not always on movies/tv shows - so some content might still show up where you don't want it to even using the parental controls as they were originally intended. It does a pretty good job, but not always.

Edited August 25, 2024 by lexisdude

[Smitty018210 143]

36 minutes ago, lexisdude said:

There are other options. Such as giving the files a +tag in its metadata and using parental controls so that those users with them on cannot see that content with your +tag as long as you set up the restrictions. The second answer would be to create a library and then only give library access to those that you want to give it to. In the users - (select user), access, then untick the Enable access to all libraries and untick those libraries you want hidden from that particular user you are editing. I use the latter to keep my kids out of the adult section because it's just one and done, rather than tagging each file with a flag. 

I do not think that the person that said tagging does not work is accurate, because it works for me. But, it is far more risky than just removing access to particular libraries for each user - simply because you might not tag your file(s) right or forget to tag something and then it shows up.

Plus, mpaa ratings are not always right, and not always on movies/tv shows - so some content might still show up where you don't want it to even using the parental controls as they were originally intended. It does a pretty good job, but not always.

Yeah, I'm not getting that far into the weeds with this. I was hope form simple answer. Anything that would need me to edit tags or meta data. Yeah no thanks.

[lexisdude 145]

4 minutes ago, Smitty018210 said:

Yeah, I'm not getting that far into the weeds with this. I was hope form simple answer. Anything that would need me to edit tags or meta data. Yeah no thanks.

Thats the beauty of creating a seperate library and then removing access for that library for whatever users you have. Because it is literally, one and done. It may not be nested like in MB days, but it does the job

Edited August 25, 2024 by lexisdude

[rbjtech 5284]

1 hour ago, lexisdude said:

I do not think that the person that said tagging does not work is accurate, because it works for me. But, it is far more risky than just removing access to particular libraries for each user - simply because you might not tag your file(s) right or forget to tag something and then it shows up.

I'm referring to tagging the collection itself.   As indicated, this does not work.    Tagging the items themselves does work, but that's not the user ask here.

They simply wanted to hide the collection itself - and I thought that Emby would honour the parental control for the collection tag - but this does not work.

@Luke

 

Edited August 25, 2024 by rbjtech

[ebr 16184]

Hi.  You don't actually want it hidden, you want it nested in another collection, correct?

Those would be two very different things...

[rbjtech 5284]

10 minutes ago, ebr said:

Hi.  You don't actually want it hidden, you want it nested in another collection, correct?

Those would be two very different things...

Nested yes, but they want the sub collection not shown as an independent collection - so hidden from the main collection list.

As a practical example - MCU collections.

You simply have an MCU collection which consists of Phase 1-6.   Each of these sub-collections hold the respective movies in their own collection, but you don't show phase 1-6 in the main collection list, just the one mcu collection.

or you may want to split into two collections - the Infinity Saga (phases 1-3) and the Multiverse Saga (phase 4-6)

Edited August 25, 2024 by rbjtech

[ebr 16184]

4 minutes ago, rbjtech said:

Nested yes, but they want the sub collection not shown as an independent collection

That's just nested.  It isn't "hidden" as it will show in the context in which it should.  Same as a folder.  A folder inside another folder isn't hidden.  It just only shows where it should.

This particular issue is, however, one of the complications of actually implementing nested collections and why they are not yet supported.

[rbjtech 5284]

Previously Emby showed both the top tier and the 'nested' item in the main collection list.

So if Emby are following what it should be - then yes, no need to hide anything.

However - the option to show inside a collection AND show outside a collection should also be given per collection - this should not be a per library option - as depending on the collection type, this may or may not be relevant.

For example - in my MCU case, you may also want to see all the individual movies in your movie list because it may not be obvious the movie you want is in that collection.  But in the case of say 'Jaws Collection' then I'd want that only as a collection, as I don't want to see Jaws 1-4 listed individually.

P**x has this as it's implemented very well.

Edited August 25, 2024 by rbjtech

[lexisdude 145]

5 hours ago, rbjtech said:

I'm referring to tagging the collection itself.   As indicated, this does not work.    Tagging the items themselves does work, but that's not the user ask here.

They simply wanted to hide the collection itself - and I thought that Emby would honour the parental control for the collection tag - but this does not work.

@Luke

 

You're right about that of course - as the collection itself would be tagged - but not anything in the collection. 

[Smitty018210 143]

10 hours ago, ebr said:

Hi.  You don't actually want it hidden, you want it nested in another collection, correct?

Those would be two very different things...

I was pretty sure I wasn't explaining this well enough lol

Sorry for the confusion. That's what I get for posting that right before bed. lol

 

What I want is to be able to add one collection to another, and to be able to hide collections from the main list. Two different things. Yes, sorry.

Example:
My collection on the main list would be called "Marvel"

Inside that collection there would be other collections

Marvel - Disney

Marvel- Fox

Marvel - Sony

Marvel - other

Then inside those collections would be other collections

example Marvel - Disney

Iron Man COllection

Avengers Collection

ect.

10 hours ago, rbjtech said:

Nested yes, but they want the sub collection not shown as an independent collection - so hidden from the main collection list.

As a practical example - MCU collections.

You simply have an MCU collection which consists of Phase 1-6.   Each of these sub-collections hold the respective movies in their own collection, but you don't show phase 1-6 in the main collection list, just the one mcu collection.

or you may want to split into two collections - the Infinity Saga (phases 1-3) and the Multiverse Saga (phase 4-6)

This is pretty much what I wanted, but I also want option to hide collections from the main list for other reasons to.

The reason for this is because there are collections created by emby that no matter how many times I delete them they get recreated. If I could simply hide them then I wouldn't have to delete them over and over they simply could be hidden.

 

 

I know this was worded poorly the first time. Dose this make better sense now?

TLDR

1. Option to hide collections for main list. (Don't want nested collections or unwanted collections on main list)

2. Option to add one collection to another.

thanks!

 

 

Edited August 26, 2024 by Smitty018210

[ebr 16184]

#2 is already covered by another request.

#1 it appears could be solved by you eliminating the collections you don't want.  Emby creates collections based on metadata which comes from Tmdb.  If you don't want these, there is an option to turn off importing that information.

[Smitty018210 143]

1 hour ago, ebr said:

#2 is already covered by another request.

#1 it appears could be solved by you eliminating the collections you don't want.  Emby creates collections based on metadata which comes from Tmdb.  If you don't want these, there is an option to turn off importing that information.

Thanks for the update Luke.

Great a request that's 7 years old..............well that's never going to happen. lol

Yeah I've tried everything under the sun to delete a few of the collection that keep coming back.

Deleted the folder in the metadata folder system folder. edited and removed the TMBD/IMDB identification numbers. I have completely removed the movies from emby before and the collection still comes back. lol  I have one collection I delete between 4-6 times a month. No matter what I do it keeps coming back. I think it's a ghost in the machine at this point. That's why I thought an option to just hide it would be good idea.

 

Edited August 26, 2024 by Smitty018210

[Luke 42079]

The age of the feature request doesn't matter. The 4.8 release added support for a large number of long-standing requests.

[ebr 16184]

22 hours ago, Smitty018210 said:

edited and removed the TMBD/IMDB identification numbers

Did you remove the collection ID numbers or the "SET" line in an NFO?

[Smitty018210 143]

17 hours ago, Luke said:

The age of the feature request doesn't matter. The 4.8 release added support for a large number of long-standing requests.

It dose if I might be dead before it's added. Not a spring chicken over here Luke. LOL

[Smitty018210 143]

7 hours ago, ebr said:

Did you remove the collection ID numbers or the "SET" line in an NFO?

Ebr, I've kinda given up on figuring out why it keeps come back. I've literally removed the movies from my server ,and run a complete scan, only for the collection to show up again a few days later. (With the movies still completely removed from server)  I guess I will just have to keep deleting it. Not the biggest deal. Just annoying. 

I just thought having an option to hide/unhide unwanted collections was a good idea regardless. (no need to edit metadata then)

[GrimReaper 4740]

Just now, Smitty018210 said:

only for the collection to show up again a few days later. (With the movies still completely removed from server)

That's odd. Does it contain any items? 

[Smitty018210 143]

3 minutes ago, GrimReaper said:

That's odd. Does it contain any items? 

Yeah it still has both of the movies from the collection in it. (even though movies are not in a library folder)

I've deleted close 50-60 times. Never stays deleted. No idea why.

Edited August 27, 2024 by Smitty018210

[GrimReaper 4740]

Just now, Smitty018210 said:

Yeah it still has both of the movies from the collection in it.

And can you enter those movies detail page (as it shouldn't be possible if they were removed from server)? If you check the media path at the bottom, does it correspond to the ones you deleted, i.e. non-existing ones? 

[Smitty018210 143]

1 minute ago, GrimReaper said:

And can you enter those movies detail page (as it shouldn't be possible if they were removed from server)? If you check the media path at the bottom, does it correspond to the ones you deleted, i.e. non-existing ones? 

Yeah, it looks as if the movies are still part of the server. I posted about this once before in another topic and the consensuses was I would need to delete the library.file (can't remember name of it right now) and rebuilt my library from scratch to get rid of it. I am not willing to do that at this point.

[pwhodges 2012]

What happens if you try to play those movies?

Paul