Movie naming convention - Pixar Short Films Collection

[cwills75 14]

What is the proper way to name something like Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007).  The files consist of 13 individual shorts like in the screenshot.  I'd like them all to be under a single movie title, with a pull-down with the episode to select, but everything I'm trying isn't working.  I have read this also:

Emby Movie Naming : Emby

 

[pwhodges 2012]

What are you getting?  I would expect those names to do what you want, though sadly the order of the drop-down list will be unpredictable.  However, for it to work the folder containing those files must have exactly the same name as what precedes the hyphen in the files - nearly the same won't do.

Paul

[cwills75 14]

If I add them just like that, it shows 13 separate movies in Emby. (they are all in a single folder).

Edited June 7, 2022 by cwills75

[pwhodges 2012]

Are those files in a folder of their own, underneath the movie library folder?

If you place all movie files in the library folder without subfolders, as some people do, various feature of Emby are unavailable - this one included.

Paul

 

[cwills75 14]

They are in Movies/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007)/13 different files.  I've also tried doing it like some multi-version movies like Zach Snyder's Justice League.  I have the main color movie named normally, with the - Justice is Gray as in the screenshot.  When I do this same thing for the Pixar stuff, renaming them like this:

Movies/Movies/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007)/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007).mkv
Movies/Movies/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007)/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007) - For the Birds.mkv
Movies/Movies/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007)/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007) -  Geri's Game.mkv
Movies/Movies/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007)/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007) - Jack-Jack Attack.mkv
Movies/Movies/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007)/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007) - Knick Knack - Remastered.mkv
Movies/Movies/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007)/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007) - Lifted.mkv
Movies/Movies/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007)/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007) - Luxo Jr.mkv
Movies/Movies/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007)/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007) - Master and the Ghostlight.mkv
Movies/Movies/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007)/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007) - Mike's New Car.mkv
Movies/Movies/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007)/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007) - One Man Band.mkv
Movies/Movies/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007)/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007) - Red's Dream.mkv
Movies/Movies/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007)/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007) - The Adventures of Andre and Wally B.mkv
Movies/Movies/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007)/Pixar Short Films Collection Volume 1 (2007) - Tin Toy.mkv

They show up as separate movies in Emby, not under one movie with a pull-down.

[MBSki 1114]

As an alternative you could set it up as a tv show. That's how I've got the Pixar shorts collection in my library. To do this I labeled them with year and episode number (2nd image). And luckily this one is still available in TheTVDB (Pixar Short Films - TheTVDB.com).

[cwills75 14]

1 minute ago, mbarylski said:

As an alternative you could set it up as a tv show. That's how I've got the Pixar shorts collection in my library. To do this I labeled them with year and episode number (2nd image). And luckily this one is still available in TheTVDB (Pixar Short Films - TheTVDB.com).

 

Maybe I'll just do that, I'll have to either split or re-acquire volume 2 since that one is one giant file.  If I could just combine the 13 .mkvs into one file easily I'd do that, but every program I've tried failed so far.

[pwhodges 2012]

Having a file with the exact name with no hyphen may be what's breaking it (that wasn't in your earlier image).  You could try renaming that with "- complete set" or something similar at the end.

Paul

[cwills75 14]

18 minutes ago, pwhodges said:

Having a file with the exact name with no hyphen may be what's breaking it (that wasn't in your earlier image).  You could try renaming that with "- complete set" or something similar at the end.

Paul

Essentially, that is what I initially did.  Instead of having - complete set on the end of the first file, I had - Boundin' like in the first screenshot.  That didn't work either.  I changed it to - Complete Set for testing, and it seems to be a bug in Emby?  In the screenshot here, I have eight files in the folder, and it shows a pull-down.  If I add one more file and scan, it breaks all of them into separate movies.  If I then delete one file, they are back in one movie with a pulldown.  Maybe @ebr or @Luke or another dev can take a look at this to see if I'm doing something wrong or if it's a limitation of Emby.

[rodainas 191]

You are confusing multi-version with collection.

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As you are using the same name before hyphen for all the shorts emby group it as same movie.

If you are setting it on a movie library you need to use each individual short name (no common name), then you can add it as a collection.

 

The other method is adding it as a tvshow and using something like thetvdb episode ordering for the shorts.

[Happy2Play 9780]

1 hour ago, cwills75 said:

have eight files in the folder, and it shows a pull-down.  If I add one more file and scan, it breaks all of them into separate movies.  If I then delete one file, they are back in one movie with a pulldown.

There are a couple topics on this but is by design, there is an automatic versioning limit of 8.

 

But can still group manually via multi-select as many as you like.

[cwills75 14]

3 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

There are a couple topics on this but is by design, there is an automatic versioning limit of 8.

Reading through that thread, it looks like it might get added in the future, but at this point I'm just re-doing the entire thing as a TV series.  If there isn't plans to fix the hard 8 limit soon, future Emby users would benefit with that limitation being specified on:

https://support.emby.media/support/solutions/articles/44001159102-movie-naming

[Happy2Play 9780]

4 minutes ago, cwills75 said:

Reading through that thread, it looks like it might get added in the future, but at this point I'm just re-doing the entire thing as a TV series.  If there isn't plans to fix the hard 8 limit soon, future Emby users would benefit with that limitation being specified on:

https://support.emby.media/support/solutions/articles/44001159102-movie-naming

True it may help but not a big priority as who needs more then 8 versions of one item?

In you case grouping like this kill 8 totally different items when grouped as watching one looses site of all the others.

So this is a Series or a collection of Movies.

 

[cwills75 14]

1 minute ago, Happy2Play said:

True it may help but not a big priority as who needs more then 8 versions of one item?

In you case grouping like this kill 8 totally different items when grouped as watching one looses site of all the others.

So this is a Series or a collection of Movies.

 

I initially tried adding it as a movie as my source was a movie, and it exists as a movie on TMDB (screenshot).  Being unable to find a good way for Emby to display them led me here, and then I eventually figured out the program limitation of 8 versions.  Had there not been a limitation, that would have solved it, but in the end, @mbarylski had the best solution of treating it like a series.  The series also has episodes not included on the three movie versions also.

And I agree with you that I'm sure it's not a priority for the devs, but literally the first place I went was Emby's movie naming link when I was having issues and had I seen that there was a program limitation of 8, it would have saved me hours of time.  The second place I came was here and searched for "Pixar short films" and some other keywords to see if this has came up before, but as I didn't know about the 8 limitation at that time.

[Happy2Play 9780]

9 minutes ago, cwills75 said:

I initially tried adding it as a movie as my source was a movie, and it exists as a movie on TMDB (screenshot).  Being unable to find a good way for Emby to display them led me here, and then I eventually figured out the program limitation of 8 versions.  Had there not been a limitation, that would have solved it, but in the end, @mbarylski had the best solution of treating it like a series.  The series also has episodes not included on the three movie versions also.

And I agree with you that I'm sure it's not a priority for the devs, but literally the first place I went was Emby's movie naming link when I was having issues and had I seen that there was a program limitation of 8, it would have saved me hours of time.  The second place I came was here and searched for "Pixar short films" and some other keywords to see if this has came up before, but as I didn't know about the 8 limitation at that time.

To me those only work as one item not individual items.  As individuals they are not Volume 1-3 unless you plan on joining all of them.

one collection (group into collection) so displayed as one item.

[rodainas 191]

Same for me here:

 

[rbjtech 5284]

Just add as a TV Series (tvdb) and use the absolute order (set in emby metadata) - you'll need to name the files correctly (absolute order naming) and put them in volume sub-folders but then you'll get the three volumes listed as they should be ..   Individual season per film looks horrid imho .. 

https://thetvdb.com/series/pixar-shorts/seasons/absolute/1

'All' is actually Season 1 (empty) - otherwise emby thinks they are all Season 1 and lists ALL the missing items .. 

ie

 

 

 

Edited June 7, 2022 by rbjtech

[Aldursil 15]

Is there a way to manually set up the files and metadata so this will look correct? Currently I have the issue where the data from iMDB is now gone and the other data out there is not identifying the files correctly. I tried moving the files to TV Shows Library and it's a mess now. All the NFO files for Volume 1 are being identified as Lady and the Lamp.

 

My file structure looks like this:

.
├── Extras
│   ├── Luxo Jr. Pencil Test.mkv
│   └── The Pixar Shorts - A Short History.mkv
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - Boundin'.mp4
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - for the birds.mp4
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - Geri's Game.mp4
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - Jack-Jack Attack.mp4
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - knick knack.mp4
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - Lifted.mp4
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - Luxo Jr..mp4
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - Mater and the Ghostlight.mp4
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - Mike's New Car.mp4
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - One Man Band.mp4
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - Red's Dream.mp4
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - The Adventures of Andy & Wally B..mp4
└── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - Tin Toy.mp4
 

[rbjtech 5284]

1 hour ago, Aldursil said:

Is there a way to manually set up the files and metadata so this will look correct? Currently I have the issue where the data from iMDB is now gone and the other data out there is not identifying the files correctly. I tried moving the files to TV Shows Library and it's a mess now. All the NFO files for Volume 1 are being identified as Lady and the Lamp.

 

My file structure looks like this:

.
├── Extras
│   ├── Luxo Jr. Pencil Test.mkv
│   └── The Pixar Shorts - A Short History.mkv
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - Boundin'.mp4
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - for the birds.mp4
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - Geri's Game.mp4
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - Jack-Jack Attack.mp4
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - knick knack.mp4
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - Lifted.mp4
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - Luxo Jr..mp4
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - Mater and the Ghostlight.mp4
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - Mike's New Car.mp4
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - One Man Band.mp4
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - Red's Dream.mp4
├── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - The Adventures of Andy & Wally B..mp4
└── Pixar Short Films Collection 1 - Tin Toy.mp4
 

You'll have to include the Season and Episode in the name somewhere for Emby to pick it up - using the TVDB reference below.

Season is actually 'year' - so as an example Jack-Jack Attack is S2005E01

See -

Pixar Short Films - TheTVDB.com

Personally I think a better way to do it is use ABSOLUTE order (Pixar Short Films - Unknown - Season 1 - TheTVDB.com) and then add them yourself into the Pixar Collections via Emby.  ie create a new colection for each.

Edited October 4, 2024 by rbjtech

[Aldursil 15]

20 minutes ago, rbjtech said:

You'll have to include the Season and Episode in the name somewhere for Emby to pick it up - using the TVDB reference below.

Season is actually 'year' - so as an example Jack-Jack Attack is S2005E01

See -

Pixar Short Films - TheTVDB.com

 

Thanks for responding. I tried what you suggested and am still seeong this being identified wrong. I changed  one of the files to this: S1984E01 - The Adventures of Andy & Wally B.mp4 and I am still seeing the NFO file identified incorrectly. Do you know why this may still be getting the wrong data?

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="yes"?>
<episodedetails>
  <plot><![CDATA[A lamp causes a ruckus in the shop while the shopkeeper is away.]]></plot>
  <outline />
  <lockdata>false</lockdata>
  <dateadded>2024-10-04 12:53:03</dateadded>
  <title>Lady and the Lamp</title>
  <year>1979</year>
  <sorttitle>Lady and the Lamp</sorttitle>
  <tvdbid>7945916</tvdbid>
  <runtime>2</runtime>
  <uniqueid type="tvdb">7945916</uniqueid>
  <episode>1</episode>
  <season>1</season>
  <aired>1979-06-18</aired>
  <fileinfo>
    <streamdetails>
      <video>
        <codec>h264</codec>
        <micodec>h264</micodec>
        <bitrate>7206693</bitrate>
        <width>720</width>
        <height>478</height>
        <aspect>320:239</aspect>
        <aspectratio>320:239</aspectratio>
        <framerate>23.976028</framerate>
        <language>und</language>
        <scantype>progressive</scantype>
        <default>True</default>
        <forced>False</forced>
        <duration>1</duration>
        <durationinseconds>111</durationinseconds>
      </video>
      <audio>
        <codec>aac</codec>
        <micodec>aac</micodec>
        <bitrate>162899</bitrate>
        <language>eng</language>
        <scantype>progressive</scantype>
        <channels>2</channels>
        <samplingrate>48000</samplingrate>
        <default>True</default>
        <forced>False</forced>
      </audio>
    </streamdetails>
  </fileinfo>
</episodedetails>

Edited October 4, 2024 by Aldursil

[rbjtech 5284]

Keep the 'Pixar Short Films' part - ie name it 'Pixar Short Films S1984E01 - The Adventures of Andy & Wally B.mp4'

You don;t actually need 'The Adventures of Any & Wally B' but this is probably useful to you as opposed to Emby.

Make sure you Refresh the metadata on that item (test on one, then Refresh the lot when you are ready) - and it 'should' pick it up just fine, assuming all your providers is set to TVDB in the Library settings (should be, unless you have changed it).

 

Edited October 4, 2024 by rbjtech

[Aldursil 15]

I started over since something was not working with the identification. Got rid of all the other seasons that I had in seperate folders for the different DVDs and made one directory and renamed the file as you suggested. Now it's identified correctly though it's showing "Season1984" as the header for the short. I imagine it will do this for each episode. It looks odd but at least it's identified correctly now.

[Aldursil 15]

This is really weird how TVDB has the data for these "seasons". It's not correct based on the DVD I have.  Thier data is breaking the files up by year and the DVD has a collection of many years worth of shorts per DVD. IMDB has the data correctly before but now it's gone. Emby is also the making "Extras" directory as a Specials season as seen below.

Edited October 4, 2024 by Aldursil

[rbjtech 5284]

There is another option which I mentioned above - and that is the absolute order - you'll need to specify this in the Show metadata (see below) and then it will involve you creating your own 'collections' by just adding the items.

It's probably the end result you actually want (ie - it matches the Pixar Collections) but it is a lot of work.   

[pwhodges 2012]

16 hours ago, Aldursil said:

<title>Lady and the Lamp</title>
  <year>1979</year>
  <sorttitle>Lady and the Lamp</sorttitle>
  <tvdbid>7945916</tvdbid>
  <runtime>2</runtime>
  <uniqueid type="tvdb">7945916</uniqueid>
  <episode>1</episode>
  <season>1</season>
  <aired>1979-06-18</aired>
  

Your NFO still says the season is 1 and the year is 1979, which both conflict with the 1984 in the file name.  You need to get the data clean and consistent for reliable results.

Paul