horstepipe 356 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Hello As audio is going to be fully driven by tags in the upcoming Emby Server versions, I‘m wondering which tag to choose for the reader(s) from audiobooks...? So which tag Emby is going to use when audiobooks section will be more polished and Emby will introduce a reader database field? Mp3tag doesn’t even provide a “reader” tag or similar, so I’m unsure. I want to make my files future proof for the upcoming releases of Emby server... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37062 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Hi, a tag to do what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horstepipe 356 Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 Artist tag is for artists, title tag is for title. What tag WILL be used for the reader of an audiobook? I’m aware currently there’s no “proper” way in Emby, but for sure somewhen you will add a reader field so I’d like to prepare my files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37062 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 I can't really answer that until we actually get to it, sorry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horstepipe 356 Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 Okay understood, thought maybe you already got the concept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjaninja 533 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 thought it might help to show how Picard tags an audio book looks like author and reader is stored in ALBUMARTISTS and ARTISTS, author first, readers 2nd +, alternatively for extra detail looks like if present author (writer) is also in WRITER and readers(performers) are also in INVOLVEDPEOPLE along with their role (mbzids would have to be derived from [position in] ARTISTS tag still, if even possible) PUBLISHER is akin to studio for movies/tv Maybe if audiobooks and their libraries get a makeover at some point, they might show (as a suggestion) Author (Like Albumartist), Performers aka readers (Like Artists) ,Work (Like Album ), Publisher (Like Studio ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horstepipe 356 Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 4 hours ago, ginjaninja said: Maybe if audiobooks and their libraries get a makeover at some point, they might show (as a suggestion) Author (Like Albumartist), Performers aka readers (Like Artists) ,Work (Like Album ), Publisher (Like Studio ) Yes, please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markle88 14 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 I was reviewing my audiobook files today, and I couldn't find anywhere that the narrator was captured in the Metadata. I typically use the authors name as the "artist", but there isn't a place that displays the narrator. Am I missing it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37062 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Hi, we don't currently capture this, but it's possible for the future. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealienamongus 6 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 @luke Are there plans to add support for this as a tab in Audiobook libraries? I suggest using the ID3tags Composer or either the Artist or Album Artist tag (using the other tag as the sole tag for author). I currently have the information stored in the composer tag but would retag if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37062 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Well we already capture both album and albumartist. I suppose there is composer, but I would want this to be something standardized with other audio book software rather than coming up with our own convention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chyron 221 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) On 8/22/2021 at 11:37 AM, Luke said: Well we already capture both album and albumartist. I suppose there is composer, but I would want this to be something standardized with other audio book software rather than coming up with our own convention. If I download a file from Audible, the Narrator is listed in the downloaded file's Composer tag. Edited August 24, 2021 by Chyron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37062 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 3:37 PM, Chyron said: If I download a file from Audible, the Narrator is listed in the downloaded file's Composer tag. OK that sounds like it could work then. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick_K 6 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) I have embedded ID3 tags in my Audiobooks (no .NFO files) and it seems that Composer is not the only field with issues. Emby is not picking up the Sort title nor the Overview (comments?) nor the Genre (which should be "Audiobook"). All these are standard ID3 tags. Nor does the Emby metadata editor edit the embedded ID3 tags and it doesn't seem to create a .NFO file either so I am not sure where Emby is saving the "updated" metadata too. Edited October 10, 2021 by Mick_K clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37062 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 10 hours ago, Mick_K said: I have embedded ID3 tags in my Audiobooks (no .NFO files) and it seems that Composer is not the only field with issues. Emby is not picking up the Sort title nor the Overview (comments?) nor the Genre (which should be "Audiobook"). All these are standard ID3 tags. Nor does the Emby metadata editor edit the embedded ID3 tags and it doesn't seem to create a .NFO file either so I am not sure where Emby is saving the "updated" metadata too. HI, Emby does not save nfo files for audio files, so it reads from embedded metadata within the audio file and then goes into your emby server database. Can you please go over an example of a track where you think the embedded information wasn't read? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick_K 6 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Luke said: HI, Emby does not save nfo files for audio files, so it reads from embedded metadata within the audio file and then goes into your emby server database. Can you please go over an example of a track where you think the embedded information wasn't read? Thanks. As soon as I posted, I thought that may be the case. As for the files, they are audiobook files (M4B) that have embedded metadata. Specifically, they use the following tags in ID3: Metadata ID3 Tag Entry Cover Art 600x600 jpg Title Absolution Gap Artist Alastair Reynolds Album Artist Alastair Reynolds Album Absolution Gap Title Sort Absolution Gap Artist Sort Alastair Reynolds Album Artist Sort Alastair Reynolds Album Sort Absolution Gap Year 2003 Genre Audiobook iTunesMediaType Audiobook Comment The Inhibitors were designed to eliminate any life-form reach Composer John Lee As far as I can tell, Emby is picking up the following: Cover art, Title, Artist, Album Artist and Year. The important missing items are Genre, Comment and Composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick_K 6 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I should also point out, even after using the Emby Metadata editor to manually fill in the Overview with the text from the ID3 Comments field, it is still not displayed in Emby. I have tried rescanning the library and replacing the Metadata but it still refuses to display the Overview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tremas 103 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Are you only looking in the folder view? Once you drill down into an album using folder view, it currently shows file information only. If you browse under the book/album, artist or genre headings you should see your overview and other Metadata you entered from the emby editor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick_K 6 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Tremas said: Are you only looking in the folder view? Once you drill down into an album using folder view, it currently shows file information only. If you browse under the book/album, artist or genre headings you should see your overview and other Metadata you entered from the emby editor. I tried by Books, Folders, Authors and Genre. Doesn't display Overview in any of them (not even Absolution Gap which I manually entered the Overview). All I see is what the picture above shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adminExitium 173 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Yep, can confirm this observation. As a reference, I have the Overview filled in 2 fields: Description & Comment (due to issues with Plex) but Emby is still not picking it up. It is picking up the Genre however that's set in the Genre field. It's also not picking up the Composer that's set in the Composer field. I have attached the ffprobe output for the file and have also attached a screenshot showing the displayed data in the server. Blair Howard - The Harry Starke Novels 13 - Apocalypse (2018).m4b.json Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tremas 103 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 I know this stuff can be frustrating. I had some struggles getting my library setup after a recent move to a synology server, but I'm happy with my setup now that I've given it a little attention and embraced in-line collections for book series. Anyhow, I'm happy to help but I'm not sure I follow what you're doing. Are you entering the metadata in the file tags only, because before it was mentioned that the overview data was being entered with the emby metadata editor? I don't believe emby will currently read the comment tags from the file and put it into the overview section. NFOs are also not read for albums/books, but that may be getting worked on for the future. So the only way I know that works for "overview" is the metadata editor. If you are using the metadata editor, is it possible that you are adding the Overview info at the track level and not the album/book level? The album entity will display an overview but I don't believe track overviews are displayed anywhere. What worked for me was going to the album under "Books" and clicking on "edit metadata" or the pencil icon to enter the overview. Then it would show up for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junglejim 351 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 I can confirm what @Tremas is saying. The overview shows for me when added using the metadata editor. It would be nice if more info was picked up from tags or a scraper. Hopefully it will one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8281 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 @Lukeis id3 Comment tag mapped at all for overview? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick_K 6 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Junglejim said: I can confirm what @Tremas is saying. The overview shows for me when added using the metadata editor. It would be nice if more info was picked up from tags or a scraper. Hopefully it will one day. After deleting my Audiobooks and reinstalling them I can confirm it does, yes. That said, it depends on how the audiobooks have been saved. If you save them like so: Audiobooks Author Album Title 1 Title 2 Then the Overview will only display for the Album and not the Titles. Not a bad thing but you don't get to see the Overview for the Titles unless you dig down via Folders (not Books or Authors) because Emby will play the audiobook rather than display the Title screen. If the audiobooks have been saved like so: Audiobooks Author Album - Title 1 Album - Title 2 Then the Overview will display for each Title. There won't be an Album Overview displayed unless you dig down via Author. For some reason, the Album Overview is not shown if you dig down via Folders (in fact, the Emby Metadata Editor seems to display a different Album Overview to the one displayed via Books). Also, digging down via Authors, displays books as "Songs". I would much prefer if it was titled "Audiobooks". 2 hours ago, Happy2Play said: @Lukeis id3 Comment tag mapped at all for overview? Just be aware that the Comment tag is limited (by almost all) to 256 characters. There is an ID3 Description tag (supposedly unlimited size) but it's not commonly used as yet and some programs (like iTunes) limit it also to 256 characters. I have begun using the Emby Metadata editor which doesn't limit the size (that I know of). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tremas 103 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 The metadata editor is the way I have been setting up my library. If the album structure is set up correctly, emby can generate an NFO file with the info that you have manually entered into the overview. Currently though, it won't read NFOs for albums which is unfortunate as then you could use something like MediaMonkey to automatically generate an NFO with the overview data if you already had it in the comments. It would also have made it a lot easier when I transferred my media to to the new Synology server I'm using. There's a feature request out there for NFO reading on music and Audiobooks, so I hope it's coming soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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