Mort2k 0 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Hello Long time user of Emby on a PC direct to TB, recently moved to an android TV and moved the PC with sever under the stairs to de-clutter the front room. Emby app on the TV works a treat but all DVD rips (MKV) display in a letter box with a large black border on all sides. Even the stretch options in the player dont remove the side bars 100%. Blu Ray Rips to MKV work as expected. Some older DVD rips i have work perfectly which is strange (when I say older still recent like Hungar Games: Catching Fire) If i switch to ChromCast on the TV then some of the DVD play OK with just the expect top/bottom bars but others still dont. I cannot stick with CC though as it keeps crashing on the TV, even mid stream. If i stream the same DVD Rip via the web client from my win10 PC its works as expected, same if I stream to the IOS App on my IPAD. I have checked MediaInfo for two titles that display different and both are listed as 720*5576 (16:9) What else can i check ? Thanks in advance Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37288 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Hi, what is TB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mort2k 0 Posted August 11, 2016 Author Share Posted August 11, 2016 Ha Sorry - Meant to say Direct TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37288 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Ok. @@ebr will have to detail the stretching options for the android tv app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mort2k 0 Posted August 11, 2016 Author Share Posted August 11, 2016 Ok. @@ebr will have to detail the stretching options for the android tv app. Luke Does this mean it's a fault with the Android TV app ? Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37288 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Not necessarily. It sounds like the black bars are supposed to be there, but you're willing to stretch to remove them, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mort2k 0 Posted August 11, 2016 Author Share Posted August 11, 2016 Hmm.. Why are they only there in the Android TV app ? We are talking recent releases that should be widescreen format and are in every player except Android TV ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidman 589 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 There are different ratios of wide-screen , if the original video was filmed in a wider format then your tv you will still get black bars at the top and bottom of the screen. I believe the issue may be the way your older DVDs were ripped which may not have formatted the output file quite the same way as your more recent DVDs, either not used the right tags or maybe encoding the black bars as part of the video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mort2k 0 Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share Posted August 12, 2016 There are different ratios of wide-screen , if the original video was filmed in a wider format then your tv you will still get black bars at the top and bottom of the screen. I believe the issue may be the way your older DVDs were ripped which may not have formatted the output file quite the same way as your more recent DVDs, either not used the right tags or maybe encoding the black bars as part of the video Thanks for your reply, I am happy that black bars will appear top/bottom, this is expected. The problem is the side bars and additional top/bottom bars. the video image only fills about 50% of the screen size!! The stretch option in the App helps but still leave side black bars which should not be the case. I still dont understand though why the same rip works perfect on all other players except the one that I have paid money for ? Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14963 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 It sounds like non anamorphic dvd's ripped with the black bars encoded in the video. The Google player does not automatically zoom these where other players may. That's why we added the zoom controls in our app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 (edited) I have checked MediaInfo for two titles that display different and both are listed as 720*5576 (16:9) Do you mean 720 x 576? If so, then you definitely have the bars encoded at the top and bottom, as that gives you a ratio 1.25 (the ratio should be 720 x 540, with the bars encoded). 16:9 gives you 1778, standard 4:3 gives you 1.33. So whatever you're using to to rip the discs is not analyzing it correctly. The side black bars you're seeing after you zoom in are because the ratio has been altered. So when you zoom, it's not conforming to the standard ratios, and is displaying inside the frame. What are you using to rip? Edited August 14, 2016 by Doofus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speechles 1929 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 (edited) Is it also 25fps? Yeah, it must be. It should be 768x576 for 576p. To make your video right it must pad with 24 pixels of black on left/right sides. This makes a 4/3 image. In 16x9 this makes large black bars on the sides. Along with the black bars which must be part of the encoded video at the top/bottom, you get what you experience. Black bars all the way around. Edited August 14, 2016 by speechles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I think I'm going to rescind my last comment. I have a file with those dimensions (see below), and it plays perfectly, no bars at all. ET reads it as 480p and displays it correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mort2k 0 Posted August 14, 2016 Author Share Posted August 14, 2016 Thanks for the help guys, I am not upto speed with all the ratios etc etc Here is an example I am using MakeMKV most of the time but do have PavTube as well. Happy to change how I RIP if that will remove the side black bars ? Cheers Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pir8radio 1294 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 (edited) I'm having a hard time following your issue.. can you list the different clients you have tried and what each one looks like? It almost sounds like you are saying the only real issue is on the devices connected to your TV (side bars). Maybe it will help someone spot the pattern... Edited August 14, 2016 by pir8radio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I'm having a hard time following your issue.. can you list the different clients you have tried and what each one looks like? It almost sounds like you are saying the only real issue is on the devices connected to your TV (side bars). Maybe it will help someone spot the pattern... Yes. You said you're using the app on the tv. Are you using ET for windows or the app from the store or possibly the smart tv app? And your file details pretty much match mine. Even though it says its not anamorphic, it plays without bars. Could you share a sample of the file? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Your video is MPEG2 in an MKV container. I wonder if that is causing an issue. Try converting to H.264. You've already ripped the disc, just use handbrake to convert it. I'd be interested to see the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speechles 1929 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 The DVD-Video standard uses MPEG-2 video, but imposes some restrictions: Allowed Dimensions720 × 480, 704 × 480, 352 × 480, 352 × 240 pixel (NTSC) 720 × 576, 704 × 576, 352 × 576, 352 × 288 pixel (PAL) Allowed Aspect ratios (Display AR)4:3 (for letterboxed widescreen and non-widescreen frames) 16:9 (for anamorphic widescreen[dvdaspect 1]) 1.85:1 and 2.35:1, among others, are often listed as valid DVD aspect ratios, but are wider film aspects with letterbox style padding to create a 16:9 image You need to do as doofus said, and ditch the mpeg2 in favor of better codec. ...or... keep the mpeg2, but make it anamorphic which will tell players to reduce the height to 480 and stretch the width to 854 creating a 16:9.video. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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