mirdragon 15 Posted October 22, 2021 Author Share Posted October 22, 2021 @Luke, @cayars, @ebr Just done a quick test on the Shield 2015 Pro while on coffee break, a quite a few of the SD channels are failing to play in direct mode with emby reporting unable to tune to channel, but hd is fine and some sd channels are fine but taking a while to show. I'll try doing some more testing as and when i can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4218 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, mirdragon said: @Luke, @cayars, @ebr Just done a quick test on the Shield 2015 Pro while on coffee break, a quite a few of the SD channels are failing to play in direct mode with emby reporting unable to tune to channel, but hd is fine and some sd channels are fine but taking a while to show. I'll try doing some more testing as and when i can Which channels ? @pwhodges - The UK TV fixes are still only in the Beta (server, not client) and they appear to have resolved MOST of the issues I was having. Even in a browser, HD channels work in 5-6 seconds, but they transcode as the browser obviously doesn't support raw transport streams. I guess this startup is dependent on how fast your emby server can transcode. All are glitchy for the first 20 seconds or so (micro pauses) - it then settles down. A few of my SD Channels don't work either - from the looks of the logs, the GraphRunner/PCR 'fixing' fails but I've not really looked into it as all I tend to watch now is the HD Channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirdragon 15 Posted October 22, 2021 Author Share Posted October 22, 2021 @rbjtech Just tested these channels the following fail 4music, now music, 5usa, dave, really, bbc1,bbc2, sky arts, quest, dave ja vu, yesterday,itvbe these work more4,itv,ch4, 5, itv2,film4 The ones that work take a while to start playing and the ones that fail, if you enable live seek they start playing as emby starts encoding and the reason is listed as direct play disabled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emdubya77 30 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) [deleted] Edited July 6, 2022 by emdubya77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirdragon 15 Posted October 22, 2021 Author Share Posted October 22, 2021 not sure how old this list is, Freeview multiplex listings | free and easy (ukfree.tv) but might also help when looking to see which are working and which aren't not sure how to get specifics about it mux though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4329 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Do those SD channels all have HD counter parts? If so I would just use those and remove the SD from the channel list. We still need to to try and handle what may be an issue with the SD channels but that at least should help you if the HD channels are available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirdragon 15 Posted October 22, 2021 Author Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) quest, bbc1, bb2, itv, ch4, ch5, bbc news have channels in hd that work i do know bbc were to replace bbc1 with hd channels (not broadcast for local stuff), but i think its delayed and not sure if it just for certain providers like sky Edited October 22, 2021 by mirdragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4218 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) have you recently re-tuned the HDHR/Tuner - as freeview changes things pretty often ? For me - stream, launch time in a browser 4music, ok - sd mpeg2, 4 secs now music, ? I don't even have the channel .. 5usa, ok - sd mpeg2, 4 secs dave, ok - sd mpeg2, 4 secs really, ok - sd mpeg2, 4 secs bbc1, ok, bbc one London, sd mpeg2, 4 secs bbc2, ok bbc2, sd mpeg2, 4 secs sky arts, ok, sd mpeg2, 4 secs quest, ok, sd mpeg2, 4 secs dave ja vu,ok, sd mpeg2, 4 secs (looks badly interlaced though..) yesterday, ok, sd mpeg2, 4 secs itvbe, ok, sd mpeg2, 4 secs So for me, these are all ok except now music, which doesn't exist. Again this is the BETA server. Edited October 22, 2021 by rbjtech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwhodges 1519 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 @rbjtech I am using the beta server (the last tests were on 4.7.0.14). Also, I don't usually watch the HD channels (though I may record them) because of the subtitles issue, which appears still unresolved in HD channels. Also, in Oxford, if I watch the News then when the local news starts the broadcast stops and I have to retune (missing the start) because our local news isn't (when I last tried earlier this year) broadcast in the HD channel at all! Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceboy 2491 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 On 21/10/2021 at 13:43, mirdragon said: Are you based in UK? Have you set Emby to use direct play and direct play only, which means no pausing of the TV? Which version of the shield are you running? Are you running Emby (Server side) on a seperate PC or on the Shield itselt yep, in the uk yep, all live tv is direct play. Actually one thing that has never worked for me is pausing a direct stream but its rare that i need it so i havent bothered trying to get it fixed. we record 80% of what we watch and only really use live for the news and sporting events. 2019 Shield Emby running on a separate pc with the buffer on a SSD and OS on a nvme drive so its all pretty snappy. don't expect good results running emby on the shield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4218 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, pwhodges said: @rbjtech I am using the beta server (the last tests were on 4.7.0.14). Also, I don't usually watch the HD channels (though I may record them) because of the subtitles issue, which appears still unresolved in HD channels. Also, in Oxford, if I watch the News then when the local news starts the broadcast stops and I have to retune (missing the start) because our local news isn't (when I last tried earlier this year) broadcast in the HD channel at all! Paul Yea same in London - why they can't just overlay the local news (SD) using the HD broadcast is beyond me. We get that 'red' screen instead which is most annoying ! On the subs - Do you mean other non-english subs as DVBSUBS (in English) appear to work perfectly for me on all HD Channels. Edited October 22, 2021 by rbjtech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emdubya77 30 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) [deleted] Edited July 6, 2022 by emdubya77 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwhodges 1519 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 In a check just now, starting on my desktop, the web client played BBC1 SD, but hung when subtitles were requested; it also just hung when I tried BBC1 HD at all. Theatre (Store and Desktop) was OK with BBC1 SD, and with HD started it in about 5 seconds - but requesting subtitles made the Desktop version crash (Store version was OK). This time I tried my sticks as well. The Roku (Streaming Stick +) took 18 seconds to start BBC1 whether SD or HD, and both showed subtitles (hooray! - they still didn't last time I tried). The Firestick 4k started BBC1 HD in two seconds!, and showed subtitles too; however, on that device BBC1 SD just hung for ever with a rotating circle (like the web client). On my pads, the Android was the same as the Firestick (no big surprise there, I guess). The iPad is OK with BBC1 SD, but on HD requesting subs makes it hang. The iPad is also very unresponsive when playing live TV - typically it takes five seconds to bring up the subs menu after touching the icon, for instance. So it's still rather a mess, I'd say! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirdragon 15 Posted October 23, 2021 Author Share Posted October 23, 2021 @rbjtechyes the channels play on pc in a browser, but i'm running on shield tv, i wouldn't watch any through a browser, it will always be through the apps I've even redone a scan of all channels on both units and same issue where some are not playing in SD with direct play set. Checked the same channels in Plex, Channels DVR and HDHR apps (if something not working I'll always check with HDHR app as this should always work) and they all work. The Now music channel is Now 80s on channel number 76 On my Samsung Tab S6 in Emby the channels that play show as DirectPlay and again some don't ie BBC2, ITV, Ch4, 5, ITVBe plays and shows DirectPlay BBC1, Dave, Dave ja vu, Yesterday won't play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirdragon 15 Posted October 23, 2021 Author Share Posted October 23, 2021 Also noticed afterwards, all the channels it failed to play are locked, so had to reboot the units Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36991 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 On 10/23/2021 at 10:35 AM, mirdragon said: Also noticed afterwards, all the channels it failed to play are locked, so had to reboot the units This should be improved with the next release of the server. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4218 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 On 23/10/2021 at 15:35, mirdragon said: Also noticed afterwards, all the channels it failed to play are locked, so had to reboot the units If these are HDHR - are you aware you can remotely reboot them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirdragon 15 Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Luke said: This should be improved with the next release of the server. Thanks. Nice, as it causes problems when it doesn't release the tuner 1 hour ago, rbjtech said: If these are HDHR - are you aware you can remotely reboot them ? Yes, I reboot both of mine through linux, when logged in via browser and webmin. There is no other way Ideally it would be good if had this option within Emby - it sees the device and allows you to reboot it remotely by sending it the reboot command, but problem is just rebooting does not always remove the lock as once Emby has locked the tuner, it will automatically get locked again on reboot. Only way to remove the lock is to unlock tuner then close the stream - the stream can't be closed until the unlock is issued and completed phsyically reboot the units by switching off at the wall i use the following commands (on linux) discover units - hdhomerun_config discover tuner status - hdhomerun_config $unit get /tuner$X/status stream info = hdhomerun_config $unit get /tuner$tuner/streaminfo (list channels on the current stream) unlock tuner - hdhomerun_config $unit set /tuner$tuner/lockkey force close stream - hdhomerun_config $unit set /tuner$tuner/channel none reboot unit - hdhomerun_config $unit set /sys/restart self I pass the following parameters to the script that I run $unit is the unit I wish to control $tuner is the tuner I wish to control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4218 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, mirdragon said: Yes, I reboot both of mine through linux, when logged in via browser and webmin. There is no other way Do it via the CLI .. (and yes, there is a Linux version of the tools ...) https://info.hdhomerun.com/info/hdhomerun_config edit - I'm confused - you say you reboot via the browser, then go onto to list the CLI reboot command ? Edited October 26, 2021 by rbjtech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirdragon 15 Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share Posted October 26, 2021 @rbjtechI already have the tools installed under linux - its a pc without any keyboard, mouse or monitor so can only ssh or access via browser I've set up custom commands (which I listed in my post) within Webmin to do the tasks I want, I just select the device and enter the tuner Ideally would be good if could do this within Emby, rather than having to try to do on a mobile or tablet. I use Emby on my TV's and not my PC's and only rarely on my tablet as I find the HDHR app works the best on tablet and I never use Emby or my mobile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4218 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 10 hours ago, mirdragon said: @rbjtechI already have the tools installed under linux - its a pc without any keyboard, mouse or monitor so can only ssh or access via browser I've set up custom commands (which I listed in my post) within Webmin to do the tasks I want, I just select the device and enter the tuner Ideally would be good if could do this within Emby, rather than having to try to do on a mobile or tablet. I use Emby on my TV's and not my PC's and only rarely on my tablet as I find the HDHR app works the best on tablet and I never use Emby or my mobile Yea sorry I mis read your post - I thought you said the HDHR WebAdmin - ie the built in Web Server on the HDHR. I'm with you now and agree - it would be nice to have the reset options in the Emby GUI - it wouldn't take a lot to do either as they already have the HDHR API installed. Maybe raise as a Feature Request ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirdragon 15 Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 @rbjtech no worries, but you can't do much with the HDHR webpage when you access it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarionphd 1 Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 HD homerun works for me on its native app and on Channels DVR--but for some reason--not EMBY or Plex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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