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GrimReaper
28 minutes ago, abegreen said:

When in root search globally, when in specific library search inside library.

 

Also make 2 different emby apps cause I have never been a member of more stupid and toxic community so make one for normal people and one for idiots who want everything backwards, sounds like a solution. 

As already said way above, such solution already exists in certain client apps and it does not work for all. 

And not quite clear what do you exactly find toxic since till your post there was no name-calling but two opposing views on usage/functionality with normal-tone discussion. 

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Locutus64
46 minutes ago, abegreen said:

Also make 2 different emby apps cause I have never been a member of more stupid and toxic community so make one for normal people and one for idiots who want everything backwards, sounds like a solution.

Not sure which group or both groups you're aiming that at but the mods need to remove your entire post just for it.

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1 hour ago, abegreen said:

When in root search globally, when in specific library search inside library.

 

Also make 2 different emby apps cause I have never been a member of more stupid and toxic community so make one for normal people and one for idiots who want everything backwards, sounds like a solution.

That's not intuitive.  Further, for a segment of users it may not be desired.  My suggestion would be for a check box next to the search box to limit searches to the current library (only available when you're in that library).  IMO, that approach might satisfy everyone's desires.

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abegreen

Ok, I used some words... but God, you get offended too easily.

The point is that the conflict wouldn't exist if the moderator himself didn't create it.

Moderator should stay neutral and not involve himself in the discussion. He turned it into an argument, and his argument is simply: "You like it, I dont".

How can a forum moderator accept or reject suggestions, aren't there developers and decision makers who read this...

We are paying customers and we should be allowed to speak freely. Instead, our ideas are being shut down instantly by forum moderators, and there will always be heroes level 100 who will join discussion to reject any idea for a change, like they have nothing better to do than police the forum.

I love the app and I support the development but I wish I have never accessed the forum cause the community is by my opinion very divided. Those who make feature suggestions are met with almost religious resistance, by the staff which than encourages others to join the position of the staff and it turns into battle which OP's usually lose.

 

Anyway I vote for this option to limit search because of everything that's already been said by the poor souls who haven't figured out yet how this place works, so they invest energy to explain the logic behind the suggestion, not knowing that whatever they say or do, will not pass.

...but life should go on so I wish you all good luck.

 

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GrimReaper
Just now, abegreen said:

Ok, I used some words... but God, you get offended too easily.

The point is that the conflict wouldn't exist if the moderator himself didn't create it.

Moderator should stay neutral and not involve himself in the discussion. He turned it into an argument, and his argument is simply: "You like it, I dont".

How can a forum moderator accept or reject suggestions, aren't there developers and decision makers who read this...

We are paying customers and we should be allowed to speak freely. Instead, our ideas are being shut down instantly by forum moderators, and there will always be heroes level 100 who will join discussion to reject any idea for a change, like they have nothing better to do than police the forum.

I love the app and I support the development but I wish I have never accessed the forum cause the community is by my opinion very divided. Those who make feature suggestions are met with almost religious resistance, by the staff which than encourages others to join the position of the staff and it turns into battle which OP's usually lose.

 

Anyway I vote for this option to limit search because of everything that's already been said by the poor souls who haven't figured out yet how this place works, so they invest energy to explain the logic behind the suggestion, not knowing that whatever they say or do, will not pass.

...but life should go on so I wish you all good luck.

 

Nobody was rejecting anything, quite the contrary, that was expressing opinions and facts: some users want it - some don't. My very first post was in line with that which would satisfy both sides: make it an option, so noone feels left aside. I don't see any rejection there. I am just a user as any other and I do have my opinions and preferences which I will make clear, them being in line with someone else's or not. Everyone is very welcomed to make suggestions and express their desires - and argument for it, after all - some will agree, some will not. Some suggestions will get accepted, some will not. Fact of life. Deal with it.

  

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abegreen

You say "Deal with it", and I say "Just do it".

What do we want - Search inside library!

When do we want it - Now!

Foot soldiers... Assembooooooool!

 

I hope we can end it here, I should really go back to work.

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GrimReaper
7 minutes ago, abegreen said:

You say "Deal with it", and I say "Just do it".

What do we want - Search inside library!

When do we want it - Now!

Foot soldiers... Assembooooooool!

 

I hope we can end it here, I should really go back to work.

I sincerely hope you get it, in one form or another. As long as it is not on the expense of someone else. @sydlexius made a sensible suggestion which I believe should be implemented. But limited-only should not be.

Cheers

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Locutus64
5 hours ago, abegreen said:

Ok, I used some words... but God, you get offended too easily.

The point is that the conflict wouldn't exist if the moderator himself didn't create it.

Moderator should stay neutral and not involve himself in the discussion. He turned it into an argument, and his argument is simply: "You like it, I dont".

How can a forum moderator accept or reject suggestions, aren't there developers and decision makers who read this...

We are paying customers and we should be allowed to speak freely. Instead, our ideas are being shut down instantly by forum moderators, and there will always be heroes level 100 who will join discussion to reject any idea for a change, like they have nothing better to do than police the forum.

I love the app and I support the development but I wish I have never accessed the forum cause the community is by my opinion very divided. Those who make feature suggestions are met with almost religious resistance, by the staff which than encourages others to join the position of the staff and it turns into battle which OP's usually lose.

 

Anyway I vote for this option to limit search because of everything that's already been said by the poor souls who haven't figured out yet how this place works, so they invest energy to explain the logic behind the suggestion, not knowing that whatever they say or do, will not pass.

...but life should go on so I wish you all good luck.

 

We were not easily offended. You were out and out rude when it was uncalled for. As for a moderator getting involved in the conversation they as Emby users have just as much right to weigh in on the conversation. They just like the rest of us have their own opinion. As for speaking freely I do not see this thread being locked and or removed, do you? NO. As for being divided of course there is going to be division cause there are differing ways that people like to do things. Take per library only search I was only onboard with that till @GrimReaper pointed out that it might be possible to have it both global and local. So again having all viewpoints in a thread is good cause it may get you to see something you did not think of before.

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BobbyCR

I think that Search needs a little more work, like letting you select what are you looking for(before searching), movie, series, episode. add a advance search section, when you have TuneIn the search results get polluted. 

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5 minutes ago, BobbyCR said:

I think that Search needs a little more work, like letting you select what are you looking for(before searching), movie, series, episode. add a advance search section, when you have TuneIn the search results get polluted. 

Hi.  The results are separated by type.

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6 hours ago, ebr said:

Hi.  The results are separated by type.

Yes, afterwards but the idea is to get it right from the start, let you select before searching or even exclude libraries from the search. 

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Locutus64
18 hours ago, BobbyCR said:

I think that Search needs a little more work, like letting you select what are you looking for(before searching), movie, series, episode. add a advance search section, when you have TuneIn the search results get polluted. 

You are just adding criteria that's simply not necessary. @GrimReaper has the right idea about a simple toggle for universal search or local library search. 

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kikinjo

Why i s every feature on emby "hardcoded". Why admin cant decide and turn off on some option. Like in this case..search library options, click what libraries you want to be searched and what not, than every emby admin can decide. You guys need to stop introducing new features that are hardcoded, we need options for those features. Now we have discussions on who likes what, this is not a hair saloon, this is software and we (emby users and admins) need options to turn off / on something and not to discuss what is the best feature and how to implement it, because always someone will disagree.

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Music100

Whenever I do a search I get results from all libraries.

I would like the option to limit a search to a specified library.  Here's why:

Example 1: if I search for "Star Wars" I will get results from all libraries: movies from my "movie library", the film score from my "music library" and an interview with John Williams and Harrison Ford from my "interviews library". 

Since I know I am looking for the film score it seems one should be able to search the "music library" so that one doesn't get a dozen irrelevant results. 

I feel this is an important feature, particularly when one has a very large library with different types of media.  

Example 2: I have an older iTunes library of media from earlier years that is mp3 or low resolution type formats.  I also have a more recent library that only has higher resolution audio, such as FLAC.   If I want to find the high resolution FLAC version of Fleetwood Mac "Dreams", for example, searching for it will result in finding both the older mp3 version and a higher resolution FLAC version.  I will then have to look into the specs for each to find the version I am looking for.  If there was an ability to search by library this would facilitate finding exactly what one wants faster.

Both on Windows and Mac OS one has the option to search everywhere or to limit the search to within the folder one has open.  A similar approach in Emby wherein one can search everywhere or within just the single library one has open would be welcome. 

Thank you for looking into this.

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2 hours ago, Music100 said:

Whenever I do a search I get results from all libraries.

I would like the option to limit a search to a specified library.  Here's why:

Example 1: if I search for "Star Wars" I will get results from all libraries: movies from my "movie library", the film score from my "music library" and an interview with John Williams and Harrison Ford from my "interviews library". 

Since I know I am looking for the film score it seems one should be able to search the "music library" so that one doesn't get a dozen irrelevant results. 

I feel this is an important feature, particularly when one has a very large library with different types of media.  

Example 2: I have an older iTunes library of media from earlier years that is mp3 or low resolution type formats.  I also have a more recent library that only has higher resolution audio, such as FLAC.   If I want to find the high resolution FLAC version of Fleetwood Mac "Dreams", for example, searching for it will result in finding both the older mp3 version and a higher resolution FLAC version.  I will then have to look into the specs for each to find the version I am looking for.  If there was an ability to search by library this would facilitate finding exactly what one wants faster.

Both on Windows and Mac OS one has the option to search everywhere or to limit the search to within the folder one has open.  A similar approach in Emby wherein one can search everywhere or within just the single library one has open would be welcome. 

Thank you for looking into this.

EXACTLY this.

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Yes, this would be useful.  The only workaround I've found is to create separate accounts that are restricted to certain libraries, so I have my TV logged into an account with access to only video libraries and I alternate between the video-only and audio-only account on my phone.

I have a large audio collection (250,000+ songs) and having a single user with access to both libraries makes things like searching very slow.

And while we're on the topic of searching, here's a shameless plug for my search improvements feature request:

https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/101211-search-improvements-music/

Namely, the ability to search for artist AND title in the same search, like one can do with most other audio streamers (e.g., Subsonic and it's clones, Ampache, Navidrome, etc.) as well as streaming services (e.g., Spotify, Pandora, Apple Music, Amazon Music, YouTube Music, etc.).

 

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Music100

It has been a while and I'd like to bring attention to this feature request again.

Specifically, it would be fabulous to have the option to search either globally or just within the library one is in.

Probably not every user needs or wants this.  But it would be a great option for users with large libraries with different types of media who do need it.

If other users agree, please respond or include positive feedback and even examples as to why this would be a valuable feature addition for EMBY.

Cheers!

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1 hour ago, Music100 said:

It has been a while and I'd like to bring attention to this feature request again.

Specifically, it would be fabulous to have the option to search either globally or just within the library one is in.

Probably not every user needs or wants this.  But it would be a great option for users with large libraries with different types of media who do need it.

If other users agree, please respond or include positive feedback and even examples as to why this would be a valuable feature addition for EMBY.

Cheers!

Hi, yes more search control is planned for future updates. Thanks.

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On 1/27/2022 at 2:14 PM, GrimReaper said:

And again, I'd rather wade through those as opposed NOT having them returned - which in my case happens in AndroidTV client app when following through on any Tag. As said number of times - we all have our preferences and usage.

Edit: To give some perspective: My system is crammed with tags, I'd guess content has some 100,000+ tags attached. I love it. My users love it. As it enables "term" searching, as opposed to "title-only" searching. Think "nuclear submarine" or "mountain climbing" or whatever - it is extremely likely there are Movies/TV Shows with that tag. My Movies are spread across 4 libraries (because I prefer it so and it makes it more manageable), TV Shows likewise. In AndroidTV app, from inside ANY item detail screen, clicking on associated tag returns results from ONLY that library. While there might be xy items in other libraries that should've been presented. ONLY way toi get all results is to remember exact wording, back up to Home screen, click up to Search icon, type that same f*cking tag (did I mention lose place in the library I was previously in) and then and only then get the results I wanted. 30-40-50 clicks instead of single click? Hell yes I want it Global.   

I've got tons of tags as well. Between Movies, TV Shows, Sports going back 10 years as well as Home Video & Photos, I've got over 1 million media objects.
Now imagine typing "casino royal" where it starts searching after 2 letters and takes 6 seconds then takes some more, then maybe if lucky searches the whole thing.  15 seconds on a good day and 30 seconds if the system is a bit busy.  Meanwhile anyone trying to view/scroll movies or TV Shows is "locked" because the database is 100% busy.

I need two changes. First I need to be able to turn off the searching until "ok/search" is hit OR the user selects a type of content to search.
The first part would reduce the queries to a single search. The second part would focus the content allowing yet faster content to appear that is focused on the type of media they are looking for. On a multi-threaded, multi-user database this wouldn't be as much of an issue as you can stop a previous query running and replace it. A normalized database scema would help alot as the queries could by much simpler/faster as well.

The default search is quite cool on small systems but doesn't scale to larger systems.

On 4/28/2022 at 8:47 AM, kikinjo said:

Why i s every feature on emby "hardcoded". Why admin cant decide and turn off on some option. Like in this case..search library options, click what libraries you want to be searched and what not, than every emby admin can decide. You guys need to stop introducing new features that are hardcoded, we need options for those features. Now we have discussions on who likes what, this is not a hair saloon, this is software and we (emby users and admins) need options to turn off / on something and not to discuss what is the best feature and how to implement it, because always someone will disagree.

This is one that really needs to be adjustable by the admin as it can kill performance on an otherwise well running system.

Carlo

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rbjtech

So it literally takes seconds to search by library in the API -

Search on my Movies library only -

curl -X GET "http://emby.rbjtech.lan:8096/emby/Items?Recursive=true&SearchTerm=Big%20Bang%20Theory&ParentId=2237026&api_key=*" -H "accept: application/json"

Result -

{
  "Items": [],
  "TotalRecordCount": 0
}

I'm searching for 'Big Bang Theory' in my Movies library, I get zero results - that's what I'm expecting.

Same search on my TV library -

curl -X GET "http://emby.rbjtech.lan:8096/emby/Items?Recursive=true&SearchTerm=Big%20Bang%20Theory&ParentId=2834901&api_key=*" -H "accept: application/json"

Result

{
  "Items": [
    {
      "Name": "The Big Bang Theory",
      "ServerId": "*",
      "Id": "3054911",
      "RunTimeTicks": 15000000000,
.....
  "TotalRecordCount": 281
}

I now get 281 results.

The key here is where you start the search from - by just using the 'ParentId' - you can do a library or even lower level search if you like.

A quick Plugin to list the libraries and a search from a library selection will probably take a few minutes to write ... BUT if the mechanism for searching libraries is this easy, then why can this not simply be incorporated into the drop down menu's of each library ?   It will just send back an API request with a ParentId of that library ... 

Err... what am I missing here ?

(I have no need for this, I have a large(ish) library, but search for me is instant, I see the results change as fast as I can type in the characters...)

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Music100

It would be great to have an option to search individual libraries. 

It would really help with large media libraries.  Maybe some people don't need this option, but for my use it would be fantastic.

Cheers!! 

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Locutus64
1 hour ago, Music100 said:

It would be great to have an option to search individual libraries. 

It would really help with large media libraries.  Maybe some people don't need this option, but for my use it would be fantastic.

Cheers!! 

Thanks for reminding me. I was in settings the other day and did a search that I thought would only search settings only to see Emby search my libraries. Now I know search is broken as is.

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TobyTentakel

I fully agree to two of the proposed extensions:

- add an option to search only in active (or user selected) libraries

- start searching (optionally) only when pressing enter in the search button

For people with several big libraries, the search is mostly unusable at the moment. I have >20.000 movies and >120.000 albums with several million songs and the search does only work if I completely paste the search term from the clipboard and even then takes several minutes.

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14 minutes ago, TobyTentakel said:

I fully agree to two of the proposed extensions:

- add an option to search only in active (or user selected) libraries

- start searching (optionally) only when pressing enter in the search button

For people with several big libraries, the search is mostly unusable at the moment. I have >20.000 movies and >120.000 albums with several million songs and the search does only work if I completely paste the search term from the clipboard and even then takes several minutes.

Hi, we'll look at improving this. Thanks for the feedback.

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