frabe8378910 3 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Quote Hello xxxx It is come to our attention that some Emby users such as yourself are still using the Schedules Direct data service, despite being told by Emby two years ago they would need to move off. As you probably know, Schedules Direct is licensed by Gracenote to provide data to only non-commercial (hobbyist) applications. Two years ago, Emby decided to go commercial with the release of Emby Premier. We wish them well in their new endeavor, but unfortunately, SD cannot feed data to their application. Emby notified their users and we gave them time to migrate to their own Gracenote feed. We didn't realize that some people continued to use data from us. On June 1, 2021 we will block the Emby application from the SD-JSON service. If you signed up within the past two years, (and missed Emby's notice) you must have ignored a notice on our signup page that stated (in larger, bold print) ATTENTION: These products have been known to recommend Schedules Direct as a data source but are not permitted to use SD. You can't say we didn't warn you. We could shut things off immediately, but since only Emby notified people before, we wanted to give a little more time. The predecessor to Schedules Direct (zap2it labs) was shut down partially due to abuse by commercial products. We don't want the same thing to happen to us. Hobbyist applications have no where else to go. Please respect the restrictions placed upon us by the copyright holder. FYI, even using data obtained by us in an unapproved application via XMLTV violates those terms. Schedules Directhttp://www.schedulesdirect.org/ admin@schedulesdirect.org What are acceptable options for any emby premium users using emby as their main TV recorder? Being an emby premium user for some years I'd really dislike the idea to look for alternate solutions, but SD so far was the only useful solutions for non-US/UK or European users. Any time schedule for having an Emby Guida Data in general? Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceboy 2492 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 you can continue to use SD as long as you bring in the data through xmltv. thats what i do and SD cannot tell its being used in emby. i do this because i prefer to create a curated m3u and perfectly matching epg data in xteve before supplying to emby. its just much much easier to do the epg matching in xteve than emby too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonselmer 21 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Spaceboy said: you can continue to use SD as long as you bring in the data through xmltv. thats what i do and SD cannot tell its being used in emby. i do this because i prefer to create a curated m3u and perfectly matching epg data in xteve before supplying to emby. its just much much easier to do the epg matching in xteve than emby too Hi I understood almost nothing of what you wrote there, but I'm very curious, as I'm now also looking for alternatives to SD->Emby. Could be so kind a describe a bit more what you / how you do that? Which steps you take in the process, how is it updated on daily basis... I have previous read about those m3u files bit never understood what they were for or how to use them. Thank you very much in advance Just in case Emby does plan on implementing this for all non-US/UK countries, and the initiater of the post wrote. This would be the prefered way of course, and also a bit expected at this point, as we have been paying for this Live TV feature for some time now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceboy 2492 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 epg123 pulls down data from SD daily xteve sucks in: 1) m3u from local tv tuner 2) m3u from iptv provider 3) xmltv file from epg123 use xteve to choose channels from m3u, re-order, re-number etc use xteve to match channels to epg xteve creates a perfectly matching m3u and xmltv file add these to emby job done 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonselmer 21 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 You need to run epg123 and xteve ocally on a windows server right? I'm running Emby server on Synology. So any way to do this setup, without having to set up a windows server, just to run guide data? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frabe8378910 3 Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Spaceboy said: you can continue to use SD as long as you bring in the data through xmltv. thats what i do and SD cannot tell its being used in emby. i do this because i prefer to create a curated m3u and perfectly matching epg data in xteve before supplying to emby. its just much much easier to do the epg matching in xteve than emby too Still being a not correct usage, even if difficult/impossible to detect ... 1 hour ago, Spaceboy said: epg123 pulls down data from SD daily xteve sucks in: 1) m3u from local tv tuner 2) m3u from iptv provider 3) xmltv file from epg123 use xteve to choose channels from m3u, re-order, re-number etc use xteve to match channels to epg xteve creates a perfectly matching m3u and xmltv file add these to emby job done Thanks for the description. Might have to check that out soon ... even if it requires some work. I have two Debian server with tvheadend (one dual satellite tuner card each) and Emby 4.6.0.10 running stable and had no plans to change things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frabe8378910 3 Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, simonselmer said: You need to run epg123 and xteve ocally on a windows server right? I'm running Emby server on Synology. So any way to do this setup, without having to set up a windows server, just to run guide data? Arrrg, thought epg123 is for Linux too! But there are XMLTV for Linux, I've run that in the past. Not so comfortable, but should to the job. xteve is luckily for Linux too. Edited January 15, 2021 by ebr language policy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceboy 2492 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, frabe8378910 said: Still being a not correct usage, even if difficult/impossible to detect ... oh yes, i forgot. we are all 1000% compliant with laws and licences in the media center world arent we personally, when the next gen live tv function is released i will move to emby guide data (its free, why not), just at the moment setting it up if you do not use a hd homerun is excruciatingly difficult and not very robust. Edited January 15, 2021 by Spaceboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceboy 2492 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Just now, frabe8378910 said: Arrrg, thought epg123 is for Linux too - fuck! But there are XMLTV for Linux, I've run that in the past. Not so comfortable, but should to the job. xteve is luckily for Linux too. 12 minutes ago, simonselmer said: You need to run epg123 and xteve ocally on a windows server right? I'm running Emby server on Synology. So any way to do this setup, without having to set up a windows server, just to run guide data? yep xteve runs in docker but not epg123 unfortunately. but other options exist i believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frabe8378910 3 Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, Spaceboy said: oh yes, i forgot. we are all 1000% compliant with laws and licences in the media center world arent we personally, when the next gen live tv function is released i will move to emby guide data (its free, why not), just at the moment setting it up if you do not use a hd homerun is excruciatingly difficult and not very robust. What do you mean by "next gen live tv function", is this something in emby? And will emby guide data then be available for i.e. Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceboy 2492 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, frabe8378910 said: What do you mean by "next gen live tv function", is this something in emby? And will emby guide data then be available for i.e. Europe? trying to find you a post. its been discussed in some detail on the forum and is in limited beta testing at present. no, i don't think that will change probably easiest https://emby.media/community/index.php?/search/&q="next gen"&quick=1 look for posts by cayars Edited January 15, 2021 by Spaceboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 It's basically a new version of live TV that will replace the current offering in Emby. It's a ground up rewrite of Live TV that has lots of new features and much improved performance. It's still in development but getting close. It's currently in private testing being done in stages as each new part is released to testing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyborg 43 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 On 1/15/2021 at 4:29 PM, frabe8378910 said: And will emby guide data then be available for i.e. Europe? Regarding guide data: Please see this thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcm00re 18 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) On 1/15/2021 at 12:29 PM, cayars said: It's basically a new version of live TV that will replace the current offering in Emby. It's a ground up rewrite of Live TV that has lots of new features and much improved performance. It's still in development but getting close. It's currently in private testing being done in stages as each new part is released to testing. Glad to hear that Live TV is getting an overhaul. It has been rather quirky for me the past several months. I just discovered that Emby provides guide data. I had been using zap2xml to get the data from TVguide for several years now, but this week it started having issues and my guide data only ran thru Friday evening. Last night while trying to fix that, I found that Emby provides guide data -- wonder how long they have been doing that? The one downside to switching is that it appears I have to redo all my series recordings. Also the Emby guide is listing some phantom channels so I have to determine how to get them out of the guide too. Edited January 28, 2021 by bcm00re Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 You can have 1000 channels in the GUIDE but if you only have 250 channels that's all that will show up. It's the tuner channels that matter for what shows. Emby has provided guide data for a few years now so you may have just got zap2xml working when Emby introduced it. You'll like Emby data so much more. Yes you will have to setup series recordings again as the new guide will have different IDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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