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DoBoY1

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I have one PC that is transcoding but the other plays direct? they are both using same browsers and same versions of Edge and chrome. For some reason one of the pc's always wants to transcode? But that same pc plays the file fine in an external media player such as pot player.?  Any ides?

 

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from each pc that i try with 

 

2020-10-19 19:08:31.829 Info HttpServer: HTTP GET http://192.168.1.10:8096/emby/videos/62379/master.m3u8?DeviceId=07887e3e-667f-4a32-bc7a-281e09de212a&MediaSourceId=973384355b237267e9fd7e2c89360dfe&PlaySessionId=c790f6c2cbe64bcc95dffdde5666d1a5&VideoCodec=h264&AudioCodec=ac3,mp3,aac&VideoBitrate=119616000&AudioBitrate=384000&AudioStreamIndex=1&SubtitleMethod=Encode&TranscodingMaxAudioChannels=2&SegmentContainer=ts&MinSegments=1&BreakOnNonKeyFrames=True&ManifestSubtitles=vtt&h264-profile=high,main,baseline,constrainedbaseline,high10&h264-level=52&TranscodeReasons=VideoCodecNotSupported. Connection=keep-alive, Accept=*/*, Accept-Encoding=gzip, deflate, Accept-Language=en-US,en;q=0.9, Host=192.168.1.10:8096, Referer=http://192.168.1.10:8096/web/index.html, User-Agent=Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/86.0.4240.80 Safari/537.36 Edg/86.0.622.43


2020-10-19 19:15:49.495 Info HttpServer: HTTP GET http://192.168.1.10:8096/emby/videos/62379/stream.mkv?DeviceId=ae33d0f9-2b9d-4fd6-87e4-92074ab03f9e&MediaSourceId=973384355b237267e9fd7e2c89360dfe&Static=true&PlaySessionId=421f4d6ad85b4b69bc6cdf707182334f. Connection=keep-alive, Accept=*/*, Accept-Encoding=identity;q=1, *;q=0, Accept-Language=en-US,en;q=0.9, Host=192.168.1.10:8096, If-Range="a58e40cfcf0c30bebc642d2ed0aed668", Referer=http://192.168.1.10:8096/web/index.html, Range=bytes=396433-2147880079, User-Agent=Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/86.0.4240.80 Safari/537.36 Edg/86.0.622.43

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Happy2Play
&TranscodeReasons=VideoCodecNotSupported

What is the media info for that item.  But would appear one system supports the codec and the other does not.

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1 hour ago, Happy2Play said:

&TranscodeReasons=VideoCodecNotSupported

What is the media info for that item.  But would appear one system supports the codec and the other does not.

That's what it seems? but is that even possible since they are both using the same browser to play the file back on? And when i use a stand alone player it works fine. 

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On 10/19/2020 at 7:44 PM, Luke said:

Hi, did you explore the stats feature in the video player to learn why it was transcoding?

So upon further testing on the problematic PC (IntelHD500), 3 Different browsers, 3 different issues. And keep in Mind that using Pot player, I can hardware decode just fine.

Edge 86.0.622.48

Playback Info
Player:Web Video Player
Play method:Transcode
Protocol:http
Stream type:HLS
Video Info
Video resolution:1920x1080
Dropped frames:5
Corrupted frames:0

Transcoding Info
Video codec:H264
Audio codec:MP3
Bitrate:229 kbps
Transcoding progress:44.2%
Transcoding framerate:36 fps
Reason for transcoding:Video codec not supported

Original Media Info
Container:mkv
Bitrate:9.4 Mbps
Video codec:HEVC Main
Video bitrate:9.4 Mbps
Video framerate:23.976025 fps
Audio codec:EAC3
Audio channels:6
Audio sample rate:48000 Hz

Chrome 86.0.4240.75

Playback Info
Player:Web Video Player
Play method:Transcode
Protocol:http
Stream type:HLS

Video Info
Video resolution:1920x1080
Dropped frames:1
Corrupted frames:0

Transcoding Info
Video codec:H264
Audio codec:MP3
Bitrate:5.5 Mbps
Transcoding progress:45.7%
Transcoding framerate:26 fps
Reason for transcoding:
Video codec not supported
Audio codec not supported

Original Media Info
Container:mkv
Bitrate:9.4 Mbps
Video codec:HEVC Main
Video bitrate:9.4 Mbps
Video framerate:23.976025 fps
Audio codec:EAC3
Audio channels:6
Audio sample rate:48000 Hz

Firefox 82.0

Playback Info
Player:Web Video Player
Play method:Transcode
Protocol:http
Stream type:HLS

Video Info
Video resolution:1920x1080
Dropped frames:0
Corrupted frames:0

Transcoding Info
Video codec:H264
Audio codec:AAC
Bitrate:5.6 Mbps
Transcoding progress:45.4%
Transcoding framerate:39 fps
Reason for transcoding:Container not supported

Original Media Info
Container:mkv
Bitrate:9.4 Mbps
Video codec:HEVC Main
Video bitrate:9.4 Mbps
Video framerate:23.976025 fps
Audio codec:EAC3
Audio channels:6
Audio sample rate:48000 Hz

 

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Looks normal to me.  No/Most browser do not supports HEVC/H265.  I believe there is another topic about MS Store HEVC Video Extension issues also.

https://caniuse.com/hevc

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7 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

Looks normal to me.  No/Most browser do not supports HEVC/H265.  I believe there is another topic about MS Store HEVC Video Extension issues also.

https://caniuse.com/hevc

Plays fine on another system with browser and a GeForce GTX 960 doing the decoding? 

 

Edge Browser:

 


Playback Info
Player:Web Video Player
Play method:DirectPlay
Protocol:http
Stream type:Video
V
ideo Info
Video resolution:1920x1080
Dropped frames:1
Corrupted frames:0

Original Media Info
Container:mkv
Bitrate:9.4 Mbps
Video codec:HEVC Main
Video bitrate:9.4 Mbps
Video framerate:23.976025 fps
Audio codec:EAC3
Audio channels:6
Audio sample rate:48000 Hz

 

Funny thing IE11 DirectPlay but no audio

 

Playback Info

Player:Web Video Player
Play method:DirectPlay
Protocol:http
Stream type:HLS

Video Info
Video resolution:1920x1080
Dropped frames:1
Corrupted frames:0

Original Media Info
Container:mkv
Bitrate:9.4 Mbps
Video codec:HEVC Main
Video bitrate:9.4 Mbps
Video framerate:23.976025 fps
Audio codec:EAC3
Audio channels:6
Audio sample rate:48000 Hz

 

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Happy2Play

What version of Edge? New or Original? 

Does that system have the store HEVC extension?

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Happy2Play

Does html5test.com show support on one system vs the other?

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2 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

What version of Edge? New or Original? 

Does that system have the store HEVC extension?

New edge on both, both same version 

 

1 minute ago, Happy2Play said:

Does html5test.com show support on one system vs the other?

Same results for both 

Video
29/33

video element
Yes ✔
Subtitles
Yes ✔
Audio track selection
No ✘
Video track selection
No ✘
Poster images
Yes ✔
Codec detection
Yes ✔
Video codecs
MPEG-4 ASP support
No ✘
H.264 support
Yes ✔
H.265 support
No ✘
Ogg Theora support
Yes ✔
WebM with VP8 support
Yes ✔
WebM with VP9 support
Yes ✔

See my edit above about IE? weird eh 

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It will be really hard to say exact but one system obviously have something the other does not.  But overall HEVC will be required to transcode in a browser.  This would have to be brought up with browser providers for support.  You can not compare browsers to standalone players either as a standalone player will always be superior.

But I would guess system hardware could have an effect also.

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And when i use a stand alone player it works fine. 

 
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And keep in Mind that using Pot player, I can hardware decode just fine.

You can't compare the video player in a web browser to that of a standalone app, so that doesn't really mean anything.

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The Microsoft browsers (Edge and IE) can direct play HEVC in some cases as happy2play alluded to (with the windows store hevc extension). So that's why you're seeing that, although I didn't know IE was able to take advantage of that. Most other browsers do not support hevc.

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