pwhodges 1527 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Do you mean something other than the samples from post #10, which I experimented with a bit after you asked? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henning65 6 Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 @Vicpa: I tried to reproduce your setting - but failed - I would be glad, if you could have a minute to help me out I followed your settings, I erased plugins, which are not in your setting. Within emby, the following plugins are installed: - Bluray Folder Support - Cinema Intros - Dlna - Dvd Folder Support - Fanart.tv - IMVDb - Iso Mounter - MovieDB - MusicBrainz 1.0.13.0 - NFO Metadata 1.0.30.0 - OMDb - Open Subtitles - Port Mapper - SmartPlaylist 0.9.1.0 - Studio Images - TheAudioDb 1.0.10.0 - TheTVDB - Webhooks Yours Henning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicpa 552 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Hi @@henning65 I will try Can you add a few more details to "@Vicpa: I tried to reproduce your setting - but failed" What happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henning65 6 Posted June 4, 2020 Author Share Posted June 4, 2020 Archiv.zip Hi @@Vicpa I tested emby with two album. Within emby only one artist and album artist is recognized. A bit strange: When I first introduced one of the album, a second artist "Keith Jarrett" appear - but without picture and proper link within emby. Now - even this is gone. I do have no idea why I can't reproduce your results. Do you think it might be related to the plugins within emby? Maybe the emby plugin of MusicBrainz is causing the trouble? Within the nfo files: also only one artist is listed! Please find enclosed a zip with four files two audio files & two nfo files. Yours Henning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henning65 6 Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 Hi @@Vicpa @@Luke (please have a look) to rule out the influence of any emby-plugin I erased all of them. In a second step I rescaned two album with Picard (your settings) and moved them to emby and rescaned emby. NOW: the first performer (and the composer) from the album are listed! My findings indicate, that the file album.nfo significantly differs from before (deleting emby plugins). I believe the nfo file is the substructure for emby. Some more details for the album: Carl Orff: Carmina Burana the nfo file includes - musicbrainzreleasegroupid: 2102f9dc-bd3d-39cb-9b24-05fdc1a51a4f (==> here the nfo file lists correctly the ReleaseGroupID - musicbrainsalbumartistid: 0b3ee6cd-a2df-4144-adf9-7807ee7ecc4f (==> here the nfo file lists the ID for Carl Orff which is WRONG, it should be a list of ID (including Carl Orff) - musicbrainzalbumid: 4260cb0b-1fc0-4bdb-a409-e9c934b767f7 - audiodbartistid: 119123 - audiodbalbumid: 2158958 But the Artist / Albumartist information still has mistakes! In the nfo-file it reads: <artist>Carl Orff</artist> @@Luke: I believe emby takes the track artist [the MusicBrainz field "Track artist" (in my example that would be: ce324ab3-8b80-4b10-bc67-8bb83f5ee514] as <Artist> Which is a logic procedure - but ignores the special handling of classical music within Musicbrainz: https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Classical I do believe it would be more accurate if Musicbrainz would change the content of the track artist from "Composer" to "Release artist" (and would even keep the composer in its special field composer) My theory still doesn't explain why Barbara Hendricks is listed as artist in the first place! Within the nfo file she is only AlbumArtist <albumartist>Carl Orff</albumartist> <albumartist>Barbara Hendricks, Jeffrey Black, Michael Chance, The Choristers of the Cathedral and Abbey Church of St. Alban, London Philharmonic Chorus, London Philharmonic Orchestra, Franz Welser-Möst</albumartist> @@Luke: I believe emby takes the Release Artist as Album Artist. Which is a logical procedure - but ignores the special handling of classical music within Musicbrainz. Within Musicbrainz the composer is separated from performers by "; ", the performers are separated from each other by ", ". I believe emby is able to interpret the separator "; " but emby isn't able to interpret ", " within list of artists. This results in the correct interpretation of "Carl Orff" as Album Artist and explains the second AlbumArtist "Barbara Hendricks". Everything behind the separator "," I guess was simply ignored by emby. (I changed the audio file tag with the application "Metadatics" from separator ", " to "; ": as expected all artist show up in emby.) In the result, emby finds two Album Artists: Carl Orff and Barbara Hendricks and falsely ignores Jeffrey Black, Michael Chance, The Choristers of the Cathedral and Abbey Church of St. Alban, London Philharmonic Chorus, London Philharmonic Orchestra, Franz Welser-Möst isn't able to deliver correctly on Barbara Hendricks. A way forward (@@Luke) emby should support the composer tag. That's not a solution to all problems, but I guess it's easy to establish. emby should support metadata fields with multiple values. I guess the mismatching of the albumartistid (see above: emby used the ID for Carl Off instead the multi value provided by MusicBrainz) caused the problems down the line with correct matching and fetching pictures / background information for performers (Barbara Hendricks...) To learn more about multiple values I went back to the audio file and open it with a text application: I could locate the "MusicBrainz Album Artis ID4data" the values are separated by "4data" ==> This might be easy to implement?! Yours Henning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicpa 552 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Hi good info, will take a look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37051 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 @Vicpa what do you think? Is there an issue with these tracks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicpa 552 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Hi @Luke No I didn't see any real issue with these tracks. I think it is another example of the way emby handles multiple album artists that have multiple MBids. (attributes the album only one of the artists) Bug, issue, or opportunity depending on your point of view. -vicpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37051 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 5 hours ago, Vicpa said: Hi @Luke No I didn't see any real issue with these tracks. I think it is another example of the way emby handles multiple album artists that have multiple MBids. (attributes the album only one of the artists) Bug, issue, or opportunity depending on your point of view. -vicpa Is the track tagged with multiple album artist names? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicpa 552 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Hi Luke The track i looked at is tagged the way it appears on Musicbrainz. Multiple album artists -- JS Bach; Keith Jarret Artist JS Bach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37051 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Ok, Emby Server already supports those album artist names then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henning65 6 Posted July 1, 2020 Author Share Posted July 1, 2020 @Luke May I ask for your advice: What is the best way to handle such tracks? And does emby support such metadata somehow? Yours Henning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37051 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 We already support all of that, we just don't currently use the subsequent mbz IDs for metadata retrieval but we are working to add that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37051 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Support for composers is coming in Emby Server 4.6: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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