Why subtitle with dvdsub format can't be custom (color / size) ?

[theghost31 4]

Hi

 

I don't know if it's an issue or a limited possibility.

 

I noticed that some subtitles are in ASS format and others can be different like DVDSUB format.

 

The problem is, I choose orange subtitles in size 14 (for example) in the user UI. 

 

That seems not to be respected during TV show with DVDSUB subtitles. 

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I have no idea why.

 

Is it because, we need at 100% a transcode every time we get some DVDSUB subtitles ?  And we can't have pretty subtitles in this case ? 

 

NB: Extract on the fly subtitle ( enabled and disabled ) do the same thing. Subtitle are white and bold, anyway, it's not the settings choose by the user. 

 

Thank you in advance

Edited May 13, 2020 by theghost31

[Luke 38825]

Hi, these are graphic image-based subtitles, so they're going to have their own styes embedded.

[theghost31 4]

Ah OK thank you. If I understand what you said, eaxh subtitle (dvdsub) can be different but defined by someone early (embedded in the episode), so it's impossible to edit them after that?

[pwhodges 1743]

VOBSUBs, PGS, DVDSUB and the like are graphical, and cannot be changed by the client.  SSA/ASS subs are text, but have their styling specified within the sub file.  SRT subs are just text, and the client provides the formatting for them.

 

This is further complicated because some clients don't handle the formatting built in to ASS and fall back on their specified formatting for SRT, which might not work so well if the ASS formatting did clever things.  ASS subs may also get screwed if they are missing the fonts they were designed for (which may be included in the video file, but aften are not).

 

If a video has been re-encoded at a different resolution, the subs may or may not have been properly adjusted to suit.

 

In short, it's all a mess, and you're lucky they work as well as they do!

 

Paul

[theghost31 4]

ok thank you @@pwhodges, it's 100% clear as answer.

In the previous answer of Luke, I missed the part between (image / text) by reading to fast.

Regards

Edited May 13, 2020 by theghost31

[ndfan77 6]

On 5/13/2020 at 2:04 PM, Luke said:

Hi, these are graphic image-based subtitles, so they're going to have their own styes embedded.

Errr, why can't Emby at least apply some scaling that's proportionate to the configured subtitle text size (rather than blow them up to almost consume the entire width of the display with very jagged edges)?  JustPlay does this (rather well) with VobSub subtitles.

[crusher11 901]

Because there's no way to know how big the text is or where it is on the screen.

[Luke 38825]

7 hours ago, ndfan77 said:

Errr, why can't Emby at least apply some scaling that's proportionate to the configured subtitle text size (rather than blow them up to almost consume the entire width of the display with very jagged edges)?  JustPlay does this (rather well) with VobSub subtitles.

Hi, can you please show an example? thanks.