pir8radio 1292 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) @@softworkz @@Happy2Play I'm going to replace my p4000 with an RTX of some sort, either an Quadro RTX4000 or a desktop version.... I want the quadro due to the unlimited concurrent streams.. but I recall threads talking about a way to remove the concurrent stream limits on the desktop cards... Question is if i do that will emby utilize the unlimited streams, does this work with the RTX's like the RTX 2080 Ti or RTX Titan? From the FFMPEG side of the house, will the RTX cover all of my ENC and DEC needs? additional suggestions? Need to order asap to get here by friday, going to the data center on Sat... want to install it then if possible.. Edited February 12, 2020 by pir8radio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37058 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 @ may have some tips on this as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 The RTX should give you everything you want. Not sure if there are unlocked drivers for them, though. Food for thought....Nvidia will soon be releasing their new stuff. https://www.tomsguide.com/news/rtx-3080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pir8radio 1292 Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) unless i hear otherwise, gonna' pull the trigger on one of these: https://www.amazon.com/PNY-NVIDIA-Quadro-RTX-4000/dp/B07P6CDHS5/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=RTX+4000&qid=1581480881&sr=8-1 Edited February 12, 2020 by pir8radio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightsout 144 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 You can do unlimited streams with RTX with the driver hack. https://github.com/keylase/nvidia-patch/blob/master/win/README.md I did it with a 2060. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pir8radio 1292 Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 You can do unlimited streams with RTX with the driver hack. https://github.com/keylase/nvidia-patch/blob/master/win/README.md I did it with a 2060. and emby uses more than 2 streams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightsout 144 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 unless i hear otherwise, gonna' pull the trigger on one of these: https://www.amazon.com/PNY-NVIDIA-Quadro-RTX-4000/dp/B07P6CDHS5/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=RTX+4000&qid=1581480881&sr=8-1 Could definitely save some money using the driver hack. I have loaded ten streams with Emby and they were all using nvenc. It's super simple and pretty reliable. You just overwrite two .dll's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightsout 144 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 and emby uses more than 2 streams? Yes. We posted at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pir8radio 1292 Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 May look into one of the desktop models then... thanks! You on win10 pro? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfatula 185 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Driver hack works on Linux as well on my 2060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche 174 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Still working for me on emby https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/72170-best-gtx-card-for-transcoding-9-tv-streams/?hl=arche&do=findComment&comment=726370 I'm still using a GTX model, but have had multiple streams with no issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightsout 144 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) May look into one of the desktop models then... thanks! You on win10 pro? Yes I am, I actually redid the hack last night because I had upgraded the driver I guess and forgot about it. I'm only running a 1050ti and it does the trick for me. Check out these charts. You can edit them as you like for what you want to be. Really helpful data here. As you will probably see getting a bigger card doesn't always result in way better performance in this area. https://www.elpamsoft.com/?p=Plex-Hardware-Transcoding You want to open that on a desktop. Edited February 12, 2020 by lightsout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pir8radio 1292 Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 Yes I am, I actually redid the hack last night because I had upgraded the driver I guess and forgot about it. I'm only running a 1050ti and it does the trick for me. Check out these charts. You can edit them as you like for what you want to be. Really helpful data here. As you will probably see getting a bigger card doesn't always result in way better performance in this area. https://www.elpamsoft.com/?p=Plex-Hardware-Transcoding You want to open that on a desktop. Yea i was looking at that, didnt see 10bit hdr transcoding... thats whats killing me now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pir8radio 1292 Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 Thanks guys, I ended up just buying this guy: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Retail-PNY-NVIDIA-Quadro-RTX-4000-GPU/264630478653?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649 I have 4 gpu slots, so if I need more beef, ill just order another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softworkz 3335 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Thanks guys, I ended up just buying this guy: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Retail-PNY-NVIDIA-Quadro-RTX-4000-GPU/264630478653?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649 I have 4 gpu slots, so if I need more beef, ill just order another one. You couldn't have made a better choice, because currently this is our reference for development and testing. You'll like the packaging ;-) What I like is that it demonstrates that the typical "see-how-powerful-I-am" design attitude is just that - a design attitude, but not a necessity. The Qadro RTX4000r takes a single slot only. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pir8radio 1292 Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 You couldn't have made a better choice, because currently this is our reference for development and testing. You'll like the packaging ;-) What I like is that it demonstrates that the typical "see-how-powerful-I-am" design attitude is just that - a design attitude, but not a necessity. The Qadro RTX4000r takes a single slot only. I guess my purchasing logic also depends on ffmpeg being able to use multiple GPU's lol that may not be the case or can it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softworkz 3335 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 The RTX should give you everything you want. Not sure if there are unlocked drivers for them, though. Food for thought....Nvidia will soon be releasing their new stuff. https://www.tomsguide.com/news/rtx-3080 Care needs to be taken when choosing GPU models for video acceleration. Video acceleration is not fulfilled by a GPU's 3D capabilities. There are discrete ICs or dedicated on-chip circuits circuits specialized on video encoding and decoding. This is true for Intel, Nvidia and AMD (actually for most others as well). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softworkz 3335 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I guess my purchasing logic also depends on ffmpeg being able to use multiple GPU's lol that may not be the case or can it? Emby shows all GPUs it detects and it allows to to select a specific one. What's still missing though is loadbalancing (e.g. selecting another compatible GPU (e.g ''B') when GPU A already has a certain amount of operations running. That's planned for the future, though! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intranetsnob 0 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Hi all, Has anyone applied the driver hack to take away the 2 x restriction on the RTX 2070 on linux? which tutorial did you follow and how is the performance? I am reading about this and sounds good but would like to know more about it. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightsout 144 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Hi all, Has anyone applied the driver hack to take away the 2 x restriction on the RTX 2070 on linux? which tutorial did you follow and how is the performance? I am reading about this and sounds good but would like to know more about it. Thank you. https://github.com/keylase/nvidia-patch There is a guide at the git page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfatula 185 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Hi all, Has anyone applied the driver hack to take away the 2 x restriction on the RTX 2070 on linux? which tutorial did you follow and how is the performance? I am reading about this and sounds good but would like to know more about it. Thank you. pretty much you run one command and it works. I used it on a rxt2060, works fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pir8radio 1292 Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 So @@softworkz @ or anyone that knows GPU cards for video processing.. (not me) I have just been looking for the highest CUDA cores and what codex it supported then going with that card... But i see a few things like the RTX 4000 has 2 NVDEC chips? Yet the 2080 TI has more CUDA cores and only 1 NVDEC chip? Whats better for video transcoding? Im stuck with the RTX 4k anyway, which should treat me good, but I would still like to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intranetsnob 0 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intranetsnob 0 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 pretty much you run one command and it works. I used it on a rxt2060, works fine. Above reply was for you, forgot to quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softworkz 3335 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 So @@softworkz @ or anyone that knows GPU cards for video processing.. (not me) I have just been looking for the highest CUDA cores and what codex it supported then going with that card... But i see a few things like the RTX 4000 has 2 NVDEC chips? Yet the 2080 TI has more CUDA cores and only 1 NVDEC chip? Whats better for video transcoding? Im stuck with the RTX 4k anyway, which should treat me good, but I would still like to understand. You want the NVDEC chip and you need just a little bit of CUDA :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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