riothamus 51 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) https://www.fiercevideo.com/video/plex-adds-mgm-movies-to-its-ad-supported-streaming-service I found this today. I think that it is kinda neat, but I can't help but feel that the normal Plex user's information is getting harvested some how. Stuff like this makes me extra grateful for the likes of Emby. The most onerous part of the article is this fun tidbit: Besides providing access for advertisers and agencies to new audiences, Plex is pledging to be more generous than other AVOD providers in sending user data back to content companies. Valory said that it won’t provide any data to content providers about what’s in Plex users’ personal media libraries, but it will provide a lot of the anonymous, aggregated usage data that comes from opt-in third-party content viewing. “We’ve got a lot of usage data that we’re more than willing to share with ad partners and content partners, as opposed to using that data as leverage in negotiations,” Valory said. I have some friends that have paid lifetime memberships for Plex, and I have already sown the seeds for them to make the jump to another platform (obviously, Emby). Edited November 13, 2019 by riothamus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 735 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 No thanks. I have a PlexPass but my Plex Server has been Out of Service for at least a year now, not that I used it much ever anyhow. I've always been an Emby Affectionato since day one and before with Media Browser on WMC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche 174 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Unfortunately, I still have Plex running again for the couple of things Emby is lacking (or waiting on for awhile) for a few of my users. But I don't use there add-ons or whatever else they try to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 735 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I'm curious as to what couple of things these are. Sent from my SM-G960U1 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 735 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 That's a polar opposite to your media your way. https://emby.media/about.html Sent from my SM-G960U1 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche 174 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I'm curious as to what couple of things these are. Sent from my SM-G960U1 using Tapatalk Private playlists (users keep deleting others playlists not knowing that everyone can see others playlists), live tv recording per user and not public (same as playlists), still don't have a pagination on mixed content libraries, couple other things. It's been told maybe in the future, so I've just been waiting to kill plex permanently when these at least get added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAlGaInTl 279 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) https://www.fiercevideo.com/video/plex-adds-mgm-movies-to-its-ad-supported-streaming-service I found this today. I think that it is kinda neat, but I can't help but feel that the normal Plex user's information is getting harvested some how. Stuff like this makes me extra grateful for the likes of Emby. The most onerous part of the article is this fun tidbit: I have some friends that have paid lifetime memberships for Plex, and I have already sown the seeds for them to make the jump to another platform (obviously, Emby). Of course it is. Plex has made it clear that users are "their" users, not "your" users. It's one of the main reasons that I stick with Emby. ETA: I'm not saying that's wrong... It just isn't for me. Edited November 18, 2019 by BAlGaInTl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speechles 1917 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) Of course it is. Plex has made it clear that users are "their" users, not "your" users. https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/66839-emby-devs-users-learn-from-the-plex-debacle/?p=675244 Read that post. I quote my old post from September 11th 2017 in that thread. Please read it to understand. Back when the forums were hosted on a different system. The link in my post to the original post of mine does not work. But I quoted my post in that thread. Exactly as I said would happen 2 years ago is. This is prophecy. Emby is the only true path. We are Jedi. They are Imperial. We are rebels. Long live the rebellion. *raises fist* Edited November 18, 2019 by speechles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAlGaInTl 279 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 @@speechles , Avanced Member, App Developer, Seer of Media Future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speechles 1917 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) When P__x took 10 million from their "Angel Investor" that came with controlling stake of the company. So the board now is controlled more by those investors or shareholders than it is the people developing the application. They must protect the investment of the shareholders and show constant movement towards a method that monetizes these shareholders. Otherwise why did they give the company money if not to get Return on that investment? High ROI. High EBITDA. Those are what they focus on now for metrics. Not user satisfaction. The problem with P__x is their LLC is now sort of polluted by these investors who control their board. Now they don't have the votes to do what they want to do. The things that do get the votes move their company towards being more like any other streaming service. They are not looking out any longer for the best interest of their users. They are looking out for the best interests for their shareholders. These shareholders are trying to pump the companys valuation up by doing all these shenanigans to probably try to get an IPO going. In that way they would become a public company and could then vest/sell their shares and walk away millionaires and move onto anything else. They might be forced to because they no longer control their board. P__x = to avoid people finding this post by searching for that company. P__x won't show up in those results. Edited November 18, 2019 by speechles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14903 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 When Plex took 10 million from their "Angel Investor" that came with controlling stake of the company. So the board now is controlled more by those investors or shareholders than it is the people developing the application. They must protect the investment of the shareholders and show constant movement towards a method that monetizes these shareholders. Otherwise why did they give the company money if not to get Return on that investment. The problem with plex is their LLC is now sort of polluted by these investors who control their board. Now they don't have the votes to do what they want to do. The things that do get the votes move their company towards being more like any other streaming service. They are not looking out any longer for the best interest of their users. They are looking out for the best interests for their shareholders. These shareholders are trying to pump the companys valuation up by doing all these shenanigans to probably try to get an IPO going. In that way they would become a public company and could then vest/sell their shares and walk away millionaires and move onto anything else. They might be forced to because they no longer control their board. To be fair, you don't actually have any insight into their internal structure or operations, correct? My feeling is the direction they are going has always been their ultimate goal. They had VC money a long time ago and I think this has just been the planned path all along. First gather the customer footprint and then market to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speechles 1917 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) To be fair, you don't actually have any insight into their internal structure or operations, correct? My feeling is the direction they are going has always been their ultimate goal. They had VC money a long time ago and I think this has just been the planned path all along. First gather the customer footprint and then market to it. I read a lot. I know they are vested on the IPO. This is their agenda. Without it they must repay those millions and keep doing so with interest. They need the public to assume that debt so they can vest their shares fully. Without this they need to find a buyer. They tried to find a buyer since 2014 and into 2017 and it failed. They offered their company up for sale for bidding. The highest bid was 10 million and it got that person or persons 51% of that company. That much I do know as fact. I really doubt those in charge of develop P__x want to stick around. This is why align all the apps to fit this format they have. Then you can cut all your staff or a lot of it. You've built it. The builders can go home now. Thin down. Vest your shares. Move on. Let the company go whatever way. You moved on rich. That is how it really looks to me. Sad to say but it looks like they are tired of being called "oh you mean that piracy app p__x". Whoever is in control of that company now is trying to change that image. This much is clear. Crystal clear. Ask the magical 8-ball.. Will P__x still do personal media in 2021? Flipped over the 8ball and I see on the glass window "all signs point to no". It will be just like plugins. They axed those without blinking right around the time they took that 10 million. Not coincidence at all. Do not be suprised anymore. Expect this. https://map.gruenderallianz.ruhr/companies/plex_media_server They haven't started cutting staff yet, but the trend is showing. It is not the high point. Edited November 18, 2019 by speechles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riothamus 51 Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 To be fair, you don't actually have any insight into their internal structure or operations, correct? My feeling is the direction they are going has always been their ultimate goal. They had VC money a long time ago and I think this has just been the planned path all along. First gather the customer footprint and then market to it. There's a South Park Underpants Gnome joke in their somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstewiegreen 147 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 @@speechles they took that 10 mil a number of years ago and plugins just recently got axed. I was looking for info on their round b investment a while ago but couldn't find any hard numbers (only that they've recieved a total of 11 mil in invesents) ... $10 million for 51% sounds very very low though, esp considering their (seemingly large and active) user base. Maybe because their association with piracy no one wants to touch them? I'm predicting their next "investment round" (i.e. selling the company) will happen in the next two to five years. Depends how much traction they get with their ad based streaming. The problem (as I see it) is who are they going to sell to? Everyone and their dog already has or has announced a streaming platform and for those few left, why would they want the media server side of the business?? So, I agree, all roads point to them ditching the media/server aspect of their product, eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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