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TV episode backgrounds get deleted whenever I move the episodes


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crusher11

I had a bunch of TV I was ripping, and after I was done shifted it all to a networked drive. All the episode background images got deleted, as they're not stored with the media like all other images are.

 

Can this be fixed?

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mastrmind11

I had a bunch of TV I was ripping, and after I was done shifted it all to a networked drive. All the episode background images got deleted, as they're not stored with the media like all other images are.

 

Can this be fixed?

rescan the library.

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crusher11

They're custom backdrops, they're not from a metadata provider. I don't think any metadata providers even do episode backdrops.

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Happy2Play

When media is moved the itemid in the database is deleted  along with all the itemid folders in /library/xx/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, because they no longer exist in that location.  And the item gets a new id and /library/xx/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx folders when it is re-imported from its new location.

 

There is currently no way to move media and maintain custom metadata and image if you do not same them with your media.

 

Unless you are a database guru and do all the path edits in the database manually offline when you decide to move media around.

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crusher11

There is currently no way to move media and maintain custom metadata and image if you do not [save] them with your media.

I do save images, and nfo files, with my media though. However, for some reason this doesn't work with TV episode backdrops, they're saved in the server folder regardless of the media saving settings. Allowing episode backdrops to save with media, as all other images do, would solve my problem.

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Happy2Play

Didn't even know episode backdrops were a thing but I see when you add one, yes they are added to /library/xx/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

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crusher11

I use them on my sports libraries so different games from the same league are easily distinguishable when they get listed in "continue watching" or "next up".

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Didn't even know episode backdrops were a thing but I see when you add one, yes they are added to /library/xx/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

 

I really hate the structure, it would be nice if a copy would be created in the actual media folders.

 

Emby runs on a SSD drive but the media folders are located on a HDD drive. It would be GREAT if all the logo's and backgrounds were copied to the HDD so I had a single location to backup.

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Happy2Play

I really hate the structure, it would be nice if a copy would be created in the actual media folders.

 

Emby runs on a SSD drive but the media folders are located on a HDD drive. It would be GREAT if all the logo's and backgrounds were copied to the HDD so I had a single location to backup.

Sorry do you mean you had metadata in the default location then moved the Metadata folder to a new location?

 

But you have to ensure you have database backups in order to maintain the /metadata information.  Without the database that contains the same itemids that /metadata/library folder gets nuked so you loose all of your images because a new database means new itemids.

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Sorry do you mean you had metadata in the default location then moved the Metadata folder to a new location?

 

But you have to ensure you have database backups in order to maintain the /metadata information.  Without the database that contains the same itemids that /metadata/library folder gets nuked so you loose all of your images because a new database means new itemids.

 

Let's say I have 200 albums, 100 are well organized with folder.jpg, backdrop.jpg, logo.png already existing....Emby scans them and creates an album.nfo file..good so far...

 

but the next 100 do not have any existing images, so Emby has to download them and it keeps them inside the /library/xx/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx structure which only exist on the SSD drive.

 

A simple export feature to the HDD would be great. It already creates the album.nfo and maybe the folder.jpg so why not also create the backdrops and logos on the hdd drive as well. Backups would be a breeze. 

 

If Emby gets borked in the future I can simply re-install it and re-import everything OFFLINE.

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crusher11

There's a setting to store images with media, which will do what you want.

 

It doesn't work with TV episode backdrops though, which is my issue.

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Happy2Play

You have the ability to create these images but to me it is something that is really undocumented/unsupported as episodes only have a thumb image.  

 

Normally all brackdrops come from a Series level.  There is no approved episode level backdrop naming scheme.  So currently there is no way to put a backdrop.jpg with a episode.

 

So to me this would be a feature request.

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Given that the image type works, and I can install it...it seems as though a naming convention and ability to store it with media ought to be in place.

 

It makes it much easier to distinguish these games at a glance than it would be if they all just had the series background.

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Happy2Play

Given that the image type works, and I can install it...it seems as though a naming convention and ability to store it with media ought to be in place.

 

It makes it much easier to distinguish these games at a glance than it would be if they all just had the series background.

I don't think this have ever been brought up before, so you would need to put in a feature request to try and get to work the way you want it to.  

 

With the image editor being generic I would expect things like this exist across the board since you can upload any type image anywhere.  Whether it works or not and whether Emby uses it properly or not is another story.

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Happy2Play

How hard is it to append "-backdrop" to the name of the file and throw it in with everything else?

Not very but have you tested appending a episode with -backdrop.jpg, it does not work.  So that unsupported scheme would need added to the code.

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So that unsupported scheme would need added to the code.

Correct. It's just not something we've looked at up to this point.

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But...why would it not be supported? That makes no sense.

 

It's the same answer to the question of why isn't every single feature you want done already.

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crusher11

Not really, given that all other image types are supported. It's not as though it's brand new functionality or anything.

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Happy2Play

Not really, given that all other image types are supported. It's not as though it's brand new functionality or anything.

Technically there has never been support for what you are doing.  Just because it worked does not mean it is supported.

 

But you are the first user to ever bring it up here that I am aware of.  Looks like you have to enable the option for this to work in Kodi in advancesettings xml.  

 

https://kodi.wiki/view/TV-Show_artwork

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crusher11

I don't understand why it wouldn't allow "-backdrop" if it allows "-thumb" and "-primary" and so on. Seems like you'd have to specifically not include that.

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Happy2Play

Personally I would say because it isn't something that gets used by many, just like it would appear Kodi does not offer this by default either.  The majority will never apply episode level backdrops as it is a manual process.  So episodes by default use Series backdrops as that is pretty much the standard and are available from providers.

 

No one is saying it can't or won't be added though.

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