lightsout 144 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 I keep trying to cancel recordings to run a sync with snapraid. I select cancel under schedule in the Live TV section. The shows disappears from the schedule but ends up recording anyways. How can I get them to cancel without killing the whole show? This is with a win 10 server setting recordings through the Webui. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37060 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Let's look at an example. Please see how to report a problem. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanipek 224 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/72892-recordings-occur-after-removing-from-schedule/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightsout 144 Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) Let's look at an example. Please see how to report a problem. Thanks. I'll pm you the log As stated above, after going into the web app, selecting "live tv" and the "schedule", I find my recordings for the day, on a couple of them I select "cancel recording" It appears to cancel, the show disappears "just the one instance since I only cancelled one recording. But when I go back to this section later I see that the recording is in progress regardless of everything that was done above. Edited October 8, 2019 by lightsout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightsout 144 Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 Just keeps happening, cancelled recordings start even though they can be no longer seen in the schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas64 38 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Lightsout - Not sure if this would be you're situation - but I've found if I cancel a recording too close to when it is scheduled to start, it records it anyway - even though it no longer shows up as scheduled. I've assumed there is some maintenance happening when a recording is cancelled - and if it is too close to the scheduled start time, that maintenance doesn't have an opportunity to occur. If I find myself wanting to cancel something close to when it is supposed to start recording - I just wait for it to start recording, and a few minutes in cancel it. That always works.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightsout 144 Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 Lightsout - Not sure if this would be you're situation - but I've found if I cancel a recording too close to when it is scheduled to start, it records it anyway - even though it no longer shows up as scheduled. I've assumed there is some maintenance happening when a recording is cancelled - and if it is too close to the scheduled start time, that maintenance doesn't have an opportunity to occur. If I find myself wanting to cancel something close to when it is supposed to start recording - I just wait for it to start recording, and a few minutes in cancel it. That always works.. I tried to free up like a four hour block. So I figure that would be far enough out. But who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightsout 144 Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 Let's look at an example. Please see how to report a problem. Thanks. Did you get my PM with the logs? Didn't want to expose my IP but I think I have reported the problem like you asked. Any thoughts, the cancel recording option does nothing for me. Tonight I have some tuner conflicts coming up. I cancelled the low priority stuff but have no idea what Emby is actually going to do, what will be recorded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightsout 144 Posted October 10, 2019 Author Share Posted October 10, 2019 According to this thread https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/78256-cancel-recording-not-being-respected/ Emby is unable to cancel a specific recording from a series. At least that is my experience. I record some shows that are on all hours of the day and it is difficult to know when emby will not record. I want to run manual syncs of snapraid but it doesn't like when data is being added during the syncs. I have been unable to get Emby to actually stop recordings ahead of time. Is there any way to stop shows being recorded for a while without losing access to live TV, and without deleting the schedule for the show all together. (and leaving emby running) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37060 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 We don't have a cancel all so you'd have to do them individually, or cancel entire series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightsout 144 Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 We don't have a cancel all so you'd have to do them individually, or cancel entire series.Right now cancelling a single episode is a broken feature. Doesn't do anything for me. Cancelling an entire show I have scheduled and then digging it up in the guide again sounds like a pain. Hopefully the single episode issue gets sorted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanipek 224 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 @@Luke is this related to the task scheduler? I seem to recall that I still had this issue and it is an issue even when I deleted the task in the task scheduler, but I can't recall. This is an ongoing issue that you need to address though. Something in that process is broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinAshford 1 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 +1 on this, I've recently cancelled a lot of series (whole series) through the emby android app (they can no longer be seen listed in the Schedule section) but when looking at Windows Task Scheduler (Windows 7) I see everything listed as set to record there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37060 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 +1 on this, I've recently cancelled a lot of series (whole series) through the emby android app (they can no longer be seen listed in the Schedule section) but when looking at Windows Task Scheduler (Windows 7) I see everything listed as set to record there. The windows task scheduler has nothing to do with it. Just look at what your recording schedule says in Emby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanipek 224 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 The windows task scheduler has nothing to do with it. Just look at what your recording schedule says in Emby. Do you not read plain English?? These cancelled but still recording programs DO NOT appear in the recording schedule. There is a bug in the process somewhere. They are removed from the recording schedule BUT still record. For crying out loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinAshford 1 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 The windows task scheduler has nothing to do with it. Just look at what your recording schedule says in Emby. Ok you're right, shows aren't recording anymore for series I've cancelled. However I do still have a load of items in task scheduler - see attachments. e.g. 'Ben Fogle New Lives in the Wild' is in task scheduler with a date of 12th Nov, clearly labeled as Emby. Emby Schedule doesn't show this listed (I cancelled the series previously). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37060 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Ok you're right, shows aren't recording anymore for series I've cancelled. However I do still have a load of items in task scheduler - see attachments. e.g. 'Ben Fogle New Lives in the Wild' is in task scheduler with a date of 12th Nov, clearly labeled as Emby. Emby Schedule doesn't show this listed (I cancelled the series previously). Yes currently the task scheduled entries get left behind in the event of a cancellation, but it's not actually related to the issue here. The only thing the task scheduler will do is launch Emby Server if it's not already running. It won't actually cause a recording to happen if it's not scheduled to do so. You can see this for yourself by looking at the action assigned to the task scheduler entry. So far I have not been able to reproduce this and cause a recording to happen that shouldn't, but I'm keeping an eye out for it. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinAshford 1 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Yes currently the task scheduled entries get left behind in the event of a cancellation, but it's not actually related to the issue here. The only thing the task scheduler will do is launch Emby Server if it's not already running. It won't actually cause a recording to happen if it's not scheduled to do so. You can see this for yourself by looking at the action assigned to the task scheduler entry. So far I have not been able to reproduce this and cause a recording to happen that shouldn't, but I'm keeping an eye out for it. Thanks. Please ignore my report mentioning that a recording occurs - it doesn't record anything - it was my (incorrect) assumption that it did record when the schedule task was present. Is there a way to stop the scheduled tasks appearing/getting added for previously cancelled recordings/series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37060 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 We've run into some problems trying to have the server clean up those entries, but at some point we'll take another look at it. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanipek 224 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 We've run into some problems trying to have the server clean up those entries, but at some point we'll take another look at it. Thanks. Why not suspend the creation of those task scheduler events, until you get around to taking another look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37060 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Because then we lose the feature of being able to wake the machine for a recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanipek 224 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Because then we lose the feature of being able to wake the machine for a recording. So we get the additional feature and the bug. Win win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37060 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 The problem is very minor though. Now that we've established that it won't actually cause a recording to happen, the worst that could happen is it might wake your machine and launch the emby server process if it's not already running. If Emby Server is already running, then there's no effect and you'll never notice anything unless you happen to be looking through the task scheduler. So yes we will get to it, but it's good that we've clarified what this actually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loefamily 2 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 @Luke, I'm reading symptoms of different issues. If I understand correctly, there is 1) the task scheduler behavior discussed by @GavinAshford and 2) the canceled recordings still being recorded discussed by@lightsout I understand you clarified that the task scheduler items not being cleaned up should not impact the canceled recordings. However, I don't see the solution for the second issue being addressed here. @cayars I personally am still seeing the second behavior (canceled single episodes of a series recording are still recording). Example: Find "College Basketball" on guide and set series recording for any channel, any time, new episodes Check schedule and see many games are now set to record. I then 'cancel' individual recordings from the schedule (Live TV -> Schedule -> Open each UNdesired episode and select "Do not record") Cancel some for same day ("today episodes") Cancel some for future days ("future episodes") Observations: All canceled Individual episodes will no longer show on schedule, nor will it show as "recording" when viewed on guide (seems correct/expected) If I then do nothing else, the episode will still record (unexpected bahavior). If I then do nothing else, the next day, the "future episodes" are back on the schedule as if I never canceled them (unexpected behavior) However, if after canceling the "today episodes", I restart Emby server from the dashboard, the episodes will NOT record that day. (not-so-user-friendly workaround) UNLESS enough time has passed: I have also seen episodes I canceled the same day, show back up on the schedule (It isn't clear to me if this is after X number of hours, or if the schedule is refreshed by some triggered event) This results in having to go in each day and cancel the games (episodes) I don't need recorded and restart Emby at a time it happens to be idle and is close enough to the game times to NOT be automatically re-scheduled again. Sure, I could cancel the series and only set the games I WANT recorded but that is also challenging to stay on top of for different reasons. Attached screenshots were taken to show as examples (order by timestamp). Photos.zip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo 4330 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 @Loefamily Have you tried this using the web interface? I wonder if maybe it's mobile related? If you could try the same thing using the a browser on a PC that would be really helpful! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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