dominicM 2 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I would like to rename all my movies to a recommended folder structure but losing metadata is not an option. Reason for this change is that emby fails to identify some movies properly automatically, too many to do manually. My current structure is "movies/[movie_title] [year]/original_filename.ext" and I would like to rename it to "movies/[movie_title] ([year])/original_filename.ext". The only change would be brackets around the year. I was under impression that watch state at the very least would be retained as it is stored with the unique movie id but I tried renaming few movies and after a rescan they are added as new with no previous metadata. I did specifically rename movies with proper identification and full metadata. So my issue is that watch state is lost and also data added which is also very important to me. What could be the issue here? Any solutions? Would be nice not to have to resort to running queries on the db manually. Version 4.0.1.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37050 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Did the external id's change from before and after? that should be the only thing that would cause this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicM 2 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 @@Luke Just tried with another movie. Took a screenshot of External ID section, renamed folder, re scanned, watch state is gone and date modified is reset to now. All 3 External ID's are identical. The only issue/bug I know of is that emby is looking for /var/lib/emby-server path and so library scans fail, I to add a symlink to /var/lib/emby for scans to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37050 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 As a test, can you try restarting the server? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicM 2 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) Surprisingly restarting emby restored the watch state. New movie rename+re-scan resulted in the same issue which is fixed by another restart of emby. While watch state is not lost, date added is still reset to now, any idea why that happens? Its really frustrating as I rely on it but I end up loosing date added quite regularly. Recently the entire collection had its date added reset after I edited the library path. I don't understand why it doesn't work the same as watch state, I mean a unique movie can only be added once so date added should remain unchanged. Edited January 22, 2019 by dominicM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37050 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Check your date added behavior setting in server library settings. by default it corresponds to the date created timestamp of the file. I know why the restart fixed the watch data. I can fix that so that it won't be necessary. Thanks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicM 2 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) I had it set to Date scanned into library all along which is what I want. I might have to set it to filename creation though it's not great since some files have odd creation dates. When does this setting get updated? That is if I choose file creation option will it update existing media entries? Edited January 22, 2019 by dominicM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8278 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I had it set to Date scanned into library all along which is what I want. I might have to set it to filename creation though it's not great since some files have odd creation dates. When does this setting get updated? That is if I choose file creation option will it update existing media entries? No this setting only affects new media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37050 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I'll make sure the config screen says this. I thought it did already but maybe not that screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicM 2 Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 I'll make sure the config screen says this. I thought it did already but maybe not that screen. Do you have any idea why date modified/scanned in gets reset so easily? If fell like it shouldn't get reset same as watch state unless I am missing some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37050 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 If you moved the file or folder, then your file system may have given it a new date created timestamp. If you have local nfo files then that is a place where the value could be kept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicM 2 Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 If you moved the file or folder, then your file system may have given it a new date created timestamp. If you have local nfo files then that is a place where the value could be kept. That should not apply since I had it set to date scanned into emby all along, file creation date should not matter here unless I am missing something. I don't have local metadata and am not willing to risk system wide metadata corruption by giving emby write access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14910 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 That should not apply since I had it set to date scanned into emby all along, file creation date should not matter here unless I am missing something. I don't have local metadata and am not willing to risk system wide metadata corruption by giving emby write access. If you moved it and had the setting on "date scanned in" then that would change the date as well because a move is a delete and add operation. Again, saving the information in an nfo with the media would resolve this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicM 2 Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 If you moved it and had the setting on "date scanned in" then that would change the date as well because a move is a delete and add operation. Again, saving the information in an nfo with the media would resolve this. Why wouldn't date scanned in be saved for the external movie id like all other metadata? It is a movie/episode not a file taht is stored in emby db. I see no reason why date added wouldn't be retained the same way. Nfos would require write access which is far too dangerous, there is no good reason for emby to have write access since I will never want it to delete or modify files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14910 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Why wouldn't date scanned in be saved for the external movie id like all other metadata? Because there is no way for us to know if this is really the same item. You could have multiple items that are the same "Movie". Again, storing metadata with the item makes sure all relevant data travels with it no matter where it goes . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicM 2 Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 Because there is no way for us to know if this is really the same item. You could have multiple items that are the same "Movie". Again, storing metadata with the item makes sure all relevant data travels with it no matter where it goes . In that case how does emby know if the watch state is for the same item? Once watched it applies to all qualities and versions of the item in question as long as external ID matches. I see no reason why it's not the same for date added. I mean you can't add (scan into emby library) the same movie 2 times same as you can't set the watched state twice. Date added should be the date the movie was added the first time. I do see how having date last added/scanned would be useful but it should be an option because as it is now I constantly loose metadata I don't want to loose. Ideally IMHO there should be 2 sorting options: Date added (current option) and date modified (same movie but file modified). Date added would give a permanent and reliable sorting option while date modified would show any file changes like when upgrading qualities or renames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37050 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 In that case how does emby know if the watch state is for the same item? By using provider ids such as MovieDb, Imdb, Tvdb, etc. We only use this for watch data and not other things. And i think this is correct behavior on our part because some people do keep more than one copy of movies and they may want different metadata between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicM 2 Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 By using provider ids such as MovieDb, Imdb, Tvdb, etc. We only use this for watch data and not other things. And i think this is correct behavior on our part because some people do keep more than one copy of movies and they may want different metadata between them. I feel like having multiple identical movies for different files is an odd implementation, shouldn't emby just have 1 movie and then multiple qualities/files under/within it? That is not really my point though. Regardless if you have multiple items per movie it would be great to have 2 sort options: Original date scanned into emby and Date file was modified (current option). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37050 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 That's a matter of taste of what it should do. It is up to the user to decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicM 2 Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 That's a matter of taste of what it should do. It is up to the user to decide. Agreed, and that's the point but there is no choice now. Like I said already there should be 2 options Original date scanned into emby and Date file was modified (current option). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37050 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Right the problem is that it's a difficult option to add. We would have to redesign our whole database structure just for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicM 2 Posted January 26, 2019 Author Share Posted January 26, 2019 Right the problem is that it's a difficult option to add. We would have to redesign our whole database structure just for that. I don't see why that would be the case. You would be adding an extra db entry for "original date added" and the current "filename modification" option would remain the same with a renamed sort option in the GUI. "original date added" would behave the same way as watched state and attach to external ids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37050 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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